[CentOS] Some thoughts about EL 6

2011-05-18 Thread Gerhard Schneider
Many people seem to wait for the announcement of CentOS 6.0, so I want to share some test results I did with SL 6.0.. The actual 6.0 kernel can NOT allocate tape buffers when the server is heavily loaded at least on some LSILogic hardware. There is a big problem of slab buffer increase that can c

Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts about EL 6

2011-05-18 Thread Rainer Traut
Am 18.05.2011 10:15, schrieb Gerhard Schneider: > > Many people seem to wait for the announcement of CentOS 6.0, so I want > to share some test results I did with SL 6.0.. > > The actual 6.0 kernel can NOT allocate tape buffers when the server is > heavily loaded at least on some LSILogic hardware.

[CentOS] ServerRaid Driver compatibility with Centos

2011-05-18 Thread Reshiv Nayar
Hi all, Does anyone know that what driver verisons of the IBM ServeRaid family are supported by the different verisons of Centos? Many thanks & regards! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)

2011-05-18 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Tom H wrote: > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Gordon Messmer wrote: >>> On 05/15/2011 06:10 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: Where is Ubuntu telling people exactly where they stand on producing a their new releases. What about Red Hat ... how about Fedor

[CentOS] Can't build Keepalived 1.2.1 on CentOS-4

2011-05-18 Thread Santi Saez
Hello, I get this error when trying to build Keepalived 1.2.1 on a CentOS-4 box: # gcc -g -O2 (..) -D_WITH_LVS_ -D_WITH_VRRP_ -c smtp.c In file included from ../include/vrrp.h:31, from ../include/smtp.h:34, from smtp.c:27: *../include/vrrp_ipaddress.h:32:27: l

Re: [CentOS] a hardware question

2011-05-18 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
> Actually, we really like Dell. The servers that died are four or five > years old, and were only under a now-expired warranty. All > had the same error (E171F PCIE fatal error B0 D3 F0), which indicates a > pci-x error, which is weird. And that all of them failed within a week > suggests, to me

[CentOS] KVM vs ESXi

2011-05-18 Thread Drew
Morning Everyone, I'm busy doing a rebuild of my home server and am tossing between VMware and KVM for this build. I already have experience with ESX, we use it at work, but I'm debating trying out KVM for a while. The server itself is a budget build using a Supermicro X8SAX board w/ i7-950 & 12GB

Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)

2011-05-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/18/11 5:05 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > Tom, you are way off the point I was making. RHEL, Fedora, Debian, > Ubuntu, all other distro's are *developed* and can change at any time. > You can track changes, contribute patches and track progress (if you > have access). Anything you build at

Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)

2011-05-18 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
> There's also a reasonable question about whether this process could > be better automated, How do you *automate* a system where the fundamental rules change 'without notice to users'? > in which case it becomes typical software development for programs > that solve the dependencies and find a

Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)

2011-05-18 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, May 18, 2011 09:23:14 AM Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > Rebuilding somebody else's sources without their build environment isn't > typical. It's MindReading 101. It's worse than that in the specific case of EL6. It's replicating the result without replicating the build system. It's a

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/18/2011 12:50 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: > On 17.5.2011 19.36, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> Try this: >> >> vim `cat list` > Thanks, this really works! I tried it with all my combinations: > > OS X workstation by itself > OS X workstation -> ssh -> CentOS 4 > OS X workstation -> ssh -> CentOS 5 > > BTW,

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Bowie Bailey > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:55 > To: centos@centos.org > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim > > On 5/18/2011 12:50 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: > > On 1

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/18/2011 9:54 AM, Jason Pyeron wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org >> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Bowie Bailey >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:55 >> You can also do this: >> >> $ vim `ls -1 *.txt` >> >> or this: >> >> $ vim `find /some

[CentOS] sipwitch for Centos 5

2011-05-18 Thread Dario Lesca
Hi, someone have use or rebuild sipwitch on Centos 5.x? http://www.gnu.org/software/sipwitch/ http://pkgs.org/package/sipwitch-runtime Someone know where is (if exist) a rpm for centos5? Thanks for info ... and Thanks to All for the great Work, Centos5.6 is a great S.O. server! -- Dario Lesca

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Jussi Hirvi
On 18.5.2011 16.54, Bowie Bailey wrote: > You can also do this: > > $ vim `ls -1 *.txt` That one can be accomplished in a simpler way: vim *.txt - Jussi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] sipwitch for Centos 5

2011-05-18 Thread Leonard den Ottolander
Hello Dario, On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 16:25 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: > Hi, someone have use or rebuild sipwitch on Centos 5.x? Usually rebuilding Fedora SRPMS on CentOS works pretty well if the build dependencies aren't too complex and the package doesn't require very recent versions of those depen

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/18/2011 10:26 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: > On 18.5.2011 16.54, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> You can also do this: >> >> $ vim `ls -1 *.txt` > That one can be accomplished in a simpler way: > > vim *.txt Yea, I thought about that after I typed it, but I left it in as an example of the general meth

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Michael Gliwinski
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 15:09:19 Bowie Bailey wrote: > >> $ vim `ls -1 *.txt` > >> > >> or this: > >> > >> $ vim `find /some/dir -name '*.txt'` > >> > >> It works with any command that outputs a list of filenames. > > > > Until you have a space in a filename. > > True. But unless vim has a n

Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)

2011-05-18 Thread Tom H
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/18/11 5:05 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> >> Tom, you are way off the point I was making. RHEL, Fedora, Debian, >> Ubuntu, all other distro's are *developed* and can change at any time. That's why I said "he should've only chosen to c

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Benjamin Franz
On 05/17/2011 09:19 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: > There are some googlable ways to feed a list of filenames to vim, but I > stumble on weird results. [...] The easy way for me is 'avoid the shell - use Perl instead': perl -e 'my @files = grep(!/^\s*$/,); chomp @files; system("vim",@files);' exampl

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/18/2011 10:42 AM, Michael Gliwinski wrote: > On Wednesday 18 May 2011 15:09:19 Bowie Bailey wrote: $ vim `ls -1 *.txt` or this: $ vim `find /some/dir -name '*.txt'` It works with any command that outputs a list of filenames. >>> Until you have a space in a fi

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Jerry Franz
On 05/18/2011 08:06 AM, Benjamin Franz wrote: > On 05/17/2011 09:19 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: >> There are some googlable ways to feed a list of filenames to vim, but I >> stumble on weird results. > [...] > > The easy way for me is 'avoid the shell - use Perl instead': > > perl -e 'my @files = grep(!

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
> On 05/17/2011 09:19 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: >> There are some googlable ways to feed a list of filenames to vim, but I >> stumble on weird results. > > [...] what, so no-one is going to offer a better solution with emacs? I'm sure the ensuing debate could be fruitful and provide a refreshing cha

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/18/2011 11:15 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: >> On 05/17/2011 09:19 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: >>> There are some googlable ways to feed a list of filenames to vim, but I >>> stumble on weird results. >> [...] > what, so no-one is going to offer a better solution with emacs? > I'm sure the ensuin

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article <4dd3e087.5060...@buc.com>, Bowie Bailey wrote: > On 5/18/2011 10:42 AM, Michael Gliwinski wrote: > > How about just: > > > > $ vim *.txt > > > > or, if you need recursive: > > > > $ eval vim $(find /some/dir -type f -printf '"%p" ') > > > > (shell quotes expansions automatically, b

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Michael Gliwinski
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 16:06:47 Bowie Bailey wrote: > > or, if you need recursive: > > $ eval vim $(find /some/dir -type f -printf '"%p" ') > > > > (shell quotes expansions automatically, but you can still ensure output > > from find is appropriately quoted manually) > > Interesting. I'm not

Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)

2011-05-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/18/2011 8:23 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > >> There's also a reasonable question about whether this process could >> be better automated, > > How do you *automate* a system where the fundamental rules change > 'without notice to users'? You have the results you want to reproduce. You have a

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Devin Reade
--On Wednesday, May 18, 2011 05:15:54 PM +0200 Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > what, so no-one is going to offer a better solution with emacs? Never mind the emacs vs vi flamewars. (Of which I use both fluently.) Real Sysadmins Use ed(1). ;) Of course, trying to use ed with a list of files is j

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/18/2011 11:34 AM, Michael Gliwinski wrote: > > Note that there's also a shortcut for cat (without launching a subprocess): > > $ vim $(< listfile) That's one of those occasionally-useful tidbits that I will have completely forgotten about by the time I need to use it again! :-) -- Bowie

Re: [CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy (was: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux))

2011-05-18 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 5/17/11, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > If we *really* need a moderator, here's an option: soc.religion.paganism > has a robomoderator; on topic posts get autoapproved, obviously off-topic > get bounced, and if there's any question, they get randomly bounced to a > configurable number of human moder

Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts about EL 6

2011-05-18 Thread Gerhard Schneider
> Is there any bugzilla report for this? > SL or redhat? > Thx > Rainer Not from my side. I'm CentOS user - only testing 6.0 The tape issue has been discussed on the linux-scsi mailing list 6 months ago - including some fix - and there was a bug report for the Ubuntu 2.6.32 kernel. The slab iss

Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts about EL 6

2011-05-18 Thread Markus Falb
On 18.5.2011 18:34, Gerhard Schneider wrote: >> Is there any bugzilla report for this? >> SL or redhat? > >> Thx >> Rainer > > Not from my side. I'm CentOS user - only testing 6.0 If you dont do a bugzilla, it wont improve. -- Kind Regards, Markus Falb signature.asc Description: OpenPGP dig

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/18/2011 11:33 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: > On 5/18/2011 11:34 AM, Michael Gliwinski wrote: >> >> Note that there's also a shortcut for cat (without launching a subprocess): >> >>$ vim $(< listfile) > > That's one of those occasionally-useful tidbits that I will have > completely forgotten ab

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/18/2011 12:58 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/18/2011 11:33 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> On 5/18/2011 11:34 AM, Michael Gliwinski wrote: >>> Note that there's also a shortcut for cat (without launching a subprocess): >>> >>>$ vim $(< listfile) >> That's one of those occasionally-useful tidbi

Re: [CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy (was: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux))

2011-05-18 Thread m . roth
Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: > On 5/17/11, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> If we *really* need a moderator, here's an option: soc.religion.paganism >> has a robomoderator; on topic posts get autoapproved, obviously >> off-topic get bounced, and if there's any question, they get randomly >> bounced to a co

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/18/2011 12:02 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote: > On 5/18/2011 12:58 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> On 5/18/2011 11:33 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: >>> On 5/18/2011 11:34 AM, Michael Gliwinski wrote: Note that there's also a shortcut for cat (without launching a subprocess): $ vim $(< listfi

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs ESXi

2011-05-18 Thread Markus Falb
On 18.5.2011 14:58, Drew wrote: > -Does KVM have a concept of virtual switches and and are they tied to > physical NICs? ESXi allows me to create a vSwitch that isn't tied to a > physical NIC so I can create a DMZ that exists solely within the host > system. I'd like to replicate that if possible.

Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim

2011-05-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/18/2011 1:26 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/18/2011 12:02 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> >> Right. I was referring to the shell shortcut "$(< filename)". Simple - >> Useful - and probably forgotten by the time I need it again. > That's the same thing I meant. It is $(command) which is the same

Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)

2011-05-18 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 05/18/2011 08:01 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > It was discussed, but that doesn't change anyone's mindset about open vs. > closed > processes or whether being more open and permitting community insight and > participation would ultimately keep the project from going the way of > Whitebox. Hell

Re: [CentOS] ServerRaid Driver compatibility with Centos

2011-05-18 Thread Jim Perrin
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Reshiv Nayar wrote: > Hi all, > Does anyone know that what driver verisons of the IBM ServeRaid family are > supported by the different verisons of Centos? The same ones supported by the equivalent versions of RHEL. IBM has a chart buried in their support site for

Re: [CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy (was: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux))

2011-05-18 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 5/19/11, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> As already said, this sounds really complicated. Coming from an IRC >> and vBB admin background, I'll suggest moderation using the reactive >> approach instead of a automated process. > > Not really. The perl script was written, um, around 1993 or '94, and it

Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)

2011-05-18 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 5/19/11, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Can we do a better job at some things, sure. But trust me, CentOS is > going nowhere. I think you might mean "CentOS is not going away" since "going nowhere" fast or slow is bad news for those waiting for the next version ;)

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs ESXi

2011-05-18 Thread Lucian
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Drew wrote: > > My question to everyone are these: > > -How well does KVM support Windows Guests? I'm already running a > Server 2008r2 and WHS 2011 (based on 08r2) machines at home which I > want to consolidate into this box. They run well enough for me. Don't hav

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs ESXi

2011-05-18 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Drew wrote: > My question to everyone are these: > -Does KVM have a concept of virtual switches and and are they tied to > physical NICs? ESXi allows me to create a vSwitch that isn't tied to a > physical NIC so I can create a DMZ that exists solely within the hos