Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 4/12/11, John R Pierce wrote: > On 04/11/11 5:41 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: >> DO NOT TOP POST. > > sadly, gmail/googlemail is very hostile to proper quoting practices. > it hides quoted text, while leaving the whole previous message appended, > without any form of > quoting. The only workab

[CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Matthew Feinberg
Hello All I have a brand spanking new 40TB Hardware Raid6 array to play around with. I am looking for recommendations for which filesystem to use. I am trying not to break this up into multiple file systems as we are going to use it for backups. Other factors is performance and reliability. Ce

Re: [CentOS] GUI Software Raid Monitor Software

2011-04-12 Thread jvalidolnx
Thank you, That's all I need.    Original Message Subject: Re: [CentOS] GUI Software Raid Monitor SoftwareFrom: Emmanuel Noobadmin ;Date: Mon, April 11, 2011 11:56 pmTo: CentOS mailing list On 4/12/11, jvalido...@juanyjosefina.com

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/12/11 12:23 AM, Matthew Feinberg wrote: > Hello All > > I have a brand spanking new 40TB Hardware Raid6 array never mind file systems... is that one raid set?do you have any idea how LONG rebuilding that is going to take when there are any drive hiccups? or how painfully slow writes w

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Alain Péan
Le 12/04/2011 09:23, Matthew Feinberg a écrit : > Hello All > > I have a brand spanking new 40TB Hardware Raid6 array to play around > with. I am looking for recommendations for which filesystem to use. I am > trying not to break this up into multiple file systems as we are going > to use it for ba

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Bent Terp
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Matthew Feinberg wrote: > Hello All > > I have a brand spanking new 40TB Hardware Raid6 array to play around > with. I am looking for recommendations for which filesystem to use. I am > trying not to break this up into multiple file systems as we are going > to use

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Marian Marinov
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 10:36:54 Alain Péan wrote: > Le 12/04/2011 09:23, Matthew Feinberg a écrit : > > Hello All > > > > I have a brand spanking new 40TB Hardware Raid6 array to play around > > with. I am looking for recommendations for which filesystem to use. I am > > trying not to break this

[CentOS] Choosing network interface to send traffic through

2011-04-12 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
I've got a server that initially was connected to a static WAN connection via eth0. Now I've added a second NIC eth1 connected to a local network switch with the intention of using it as a backup remote access connection via a dynamic ADSL connection. The problem now is getting the IP address of t

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Steve Brooks
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Marian Marinov wrote: On Tuesday 12 April 2011 10:36:54 Alain Péan wrote: Le 12/04/2011 09:23, Matthew Feinberg a écrit : Hello All I have a brand spanking new 40TB Hardware Raid6 array to play around with. I am looking for recommendations for which filesystem to use. I a

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 01:21 AM, Phil Schaffner wrote: > Karanbir Singh wrote on 04/11/2011 12:20 PM: > ... >> No, re-read what I said. Ownership in the distro is quite a different >> ballgame from userend support. > > Yes, but it seems to be rather closely held. The option I was talking about was how that

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

2011-04-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
+1 Kai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Radu Gheorghiu
On 04/12/2011 02:01 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 01:21 AM, Phil Schaffner wrote: >> Karanbir Singh wrote on 04/11/2011 12:20 PM: >> ... >>> No, re-read what I said. Ownership in the distro is quite a different >>> ballgame from userend support. >> Yes, but it seems to be rather closely

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Phil Schaffner wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote on 04/11/2011 06:58 PM: >> On 4/11/2011 5:32 PM, Ned Slider wrote: > ... >>> It's laborious, it's repetitive, it's boring, >>> sometimes it's time-consuming but it's really NOT difficult. >> That depends on where and whether you can find the component(s) t

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 12:31 PM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: > I think you are avoiding the real issue here, again and again. It's not > about ownership. It's not about taking ownership. > It's about making the process open. A simple wiki page describing what > you are doing now, and a ftp URL with files to downl

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 12:46 AM, Phil Schaffner wrote: > If you have a way to do those predictive tests, in serial or parallel, > I'm sure that would be a valuable contribution. The possible > combinations quickly lead to a combinatorial explosion. Quite a large part of the functional tests can be automat

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-12 Thread John Hodrien
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: After further verification, it seems to be related to ticket granting. Here is what I have in /var/log/messages : su: pam_krb5[7200]: TGT failed verification using keytab and key for 'host/bardeen.lab-lpp.local@LAB-LPP.LOCAL': Cannot find ticket for request

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Radu Gheorghiu
On 04/12/2011 02:37 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 12:31 PM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: >> I think you are avoiding the real issue here, again and again. It's not >> about ownership. It's not about taking ownership. >> It's about making the process open. A simple wiki page describing what >>

Re: [CentOS] GUI Software Raid Monitor Software

2011-04-12 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
jvalido...@juanyjosefina.com wrote: > I was very impressed with the performance I got on CentOS 5.6 > using software Raid 10 so I'm looking. Thanks There are 3 ways to setup RAID 10 on Linux (mdadm). There are -n2 -f2 and -o2 options (near, far and offset) and best for ordinary use is far (f2).

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Radu Gheorghiu
On 04/12/2011 02:37 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 12:31 PM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: >> I think you are avoiding the real issue here, again and again. It's not >> about ownership. It's not about taking ownership. >> It's about making the process open. A simple wiki page describing what >>

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/11/2011 05:07 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: > On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> On 4/11/2011 4:02 PM, Ned Slider wrote: >>> On 11/04/11 20:16, Digimer wrote: /putting on asbestos pants. each release is more complex than the last. The web of dependency grows, so t

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 12:48 PM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: >> There are pages in the wiki that already describe what we are doing >> right now. > I think you already stated that the pages about rebuilding are outdated. Thats not what was said : we might not be using the exact same scripts is more along the li

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 12:55 PM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: >> The bug.centos.org site is open to anyone who might want to get involved >> and help fix bugs. I'm guessing you are just new to CentOS and dont >> really know what you are talking about. Try thinking things though for a >> change. >> > Why would anyo

Re: [CentOS] Choosing network interface to send traffic through

2011-04-12 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: > I've got a server that initially was connected to a static WAN > connection via eth0. Now I've added a second NIC eth1 connected to a > local network switch with the intention of using it as a backup remote > access connection via a dynamic ADSL connection. > > The prob

Re: [CentOS] updates to package

2011-04-12 Thread Bernard Fay
Well, I would like to know what will be the changes before we apply the updates. I would like to generate a kind of a report showing what will be the changes for all packages with available updates. Is there a way to do it? Thanks Bernard On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Christopher J. Buckley

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Phil Schaffner
Karanbir Singh wrote on 04/12/2011 07:43 AM: > Quite a large part of the functional tests can be automated - specially > if there are going to be 100's of people offering them up. Wihtout a > doubt we need more of those. Agree - whatever can be automated should be. It is the predictive part I w

Re: [CentOS] Kickstart and lvm

2011-04-12 Thread Lars Hecking
It appears adding > %pre > ... > lvm vgscan lvm lvm vgimport vol0 > lvm vgchange -a y > ... > if [ -d /dev/vol0 ]; then > # do stuff > fi > lvm vgremove -f vol0 makes the volume group appear in /dev. That was definitely not need on other hw. ___

Re: [CentOS] updates to package

2011-04-12 Thread James Hogarth
On 12 April 2011 13:06, Bernard Fay wrote: > Well, I would like to know what will be the changes before we apply the > updates.  I would like to generate a kind of a report showing what will be > the changes for all packages with available updates. > > Is there a way to do it? > > Thanks > Bernard

Re: [CentOS] KVM problem after update to 5.6

2011-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/11/2011 04:45 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Riccardo Veraldi > wrote: >> >> Hello, after updating to Cents 5.6 and so to kvm-83-224 >> my KVM virtual machines qemu qcow2 based images do not start anymore. >> Looking at VM console the error message is that VM media is no

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Dag Wieers
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 04/11/2011 05:07 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> On 4/11/2011 4:02 PM, Ned Slider wrote: On 11/04/11 20:16, Digimer wrote: > > /putting on asbestos pants. > > each release is more complex than

Re: [CentOS] updates to package

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 01:06 PM, Bernard Fay wrote: > Well, I would like to know what will be the changes before we apply the > updates. I would like to generate a kind of a report showing what will > be the changes for all packages with available updates. > > Is there a way to do it? > The way to do that

Re: [CentOS] updates to package

2011-04-12 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Bernard Fay wrote: > Well, I would like to know what will be the changes before we apply the > updates. I would like to generate a kind of a report showing what will > be the changes for all packages with available updates. > > Is there a way to do it? > > Thanks > Bernard > > Please do not

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Torres, Giovanni (NIH/NINDS) [C]
On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:23 AM, Matthew Feinberg wrote: ext4 does not seem to be fully baked in 5.6 yet. parted 1.8 does not support creating ext4 (strange) The CentOS homepage states that ext4 is now a fully supported filesystem in 5.6. ___ CentOS mailing

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-12 Thread Alain Péan
Le 12/04/2011 13:46, John Hodrien a écrit : > On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: > >> After further verification, it seems to be related to ticket granting. >> Here is what I have in /var/log/messages : >> su: pam_krb5[7200]: TGT failed verification using keytab and key for >> 'host/bardeen.lab

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/12/2011 06:58 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 12:48 PM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: >>> There are pages in the wiki that already describe what we are doing >>> right now. >> I think you already stated that the pages about rebuilding are outdated. > > Thats not what was said : we might no

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-12 Thread Alain Péan
Le 12/04/2011 14:35, Alain Péan a écrit : > Le 12/04/2011 13:46, John Hodrien a écrit : >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: >> >>> After further verification, it seems to be related to ticket granting. >>> Here is what I have in /var/log/messages : >>> su: pam_krb5[7200]: TGT failed verificat

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Marian Marinov
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 15:34:21 Torres, Giovanni (NIH/NINDS) [C] wrote: > On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:23 AM, Matthew Feinberg wrote: > > ext4 does not seem to be fully baked in 5.6 yet. parted 1.8 does not > support creating ext4 (strange) > > The CentOS homepage states that ext4 is now a fully suppo

Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 02:28 AM, Bob Hepple wrote: > While I'm here - thanks to the whole CentOS team for a great effort on > 5.6. I installed it on a laptop for the wife and she loves it!! For > myself - once I've the sources get here I can start our patch and > re-compile for our in-house discless cluster

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Torres, Giovanni (NIH/NINDS) [C] >Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:34 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations > >On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:23 AM, Matt

Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-12 Thread Dave Cross
On 12 April 2011 13:48, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 02:28 AM, Bob Hepple wrote: >> While I'm here - thanks to the whole CentOS team for a great effort on >> 5.6. I installed it on a laptop for the wife and she loves it!! For >> myself - once I've the sources get here I can start our patc

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Marian Marinov wrote: > > Steve, > I'm managing machines with 30TB of storage for more then two years. And with > good reporting and reaction we have never had to run fsck. > > However I'm sure that if you have to run fsck on so big file systems, it will > be fater

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread rainer
> On Tuesday 12 April 2011 15:34:21 Torres, Giovanni (NIH/NINDS) [C] wrote: >> On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:23 AM, Matthew Feinberg wrote: >> >> ext4 does not seem to be fully baked in 5.6 yet. parted 1.8 does not >> support creating ext4 (strange) >> >> The CentOS homepage states that ext4 is now a fully

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Marian Marinov
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 15:56:54 rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: > > On Tuesday 12 April 2011 15:34:21 Torres, Giovanni (NIH/NINDS) [C] wrote: > >> On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:23 AM, Matthew Feinberg wrote: > >> > >> ext4 does not seem to be fully baked in 5.6 yet. parted 1.8 does not > >> support creati

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/12/11 6:37 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 12:31 PM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: >> I think you are avoiding the real issue here, again and again. It's not >> about ownership. It's not about taking ownership. >> It's about making the process open. A simple wiki page describing what >> you

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Lars Hecking
> OTOH, gparted doesn't see my software raid array either. Gparted it rather > practical for regular plain vanilla partitions, but for more advanced stuff > and > filesystems, fdisk is probably better. For filersystems > 2TB, you're better off grabbing a copy of GPT fdisk. __

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread m . roth
Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 12:46 AM, Phil Schaffner wrote: >> If you have a way to do those predictive tests, in serial or parallel, >> I'm sure that would be a valuable contribution. The possible >> combinations quickly lead to a combinatorial explosion. > > Quite a large part of the f

Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/12/11 7:48 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 02:28 AM, Bob Hepple wrote: >> While I'm here - thanks to the whole CentOS team for a great effort on >> 5.6. I installed it on a laptop for the wife and she loves it!! For >> myself - once I've the sources get here I can start our patch and

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread m . roth
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Marian Marinov wrote: >> >> I'm managing machines with 30TB of storage for more then two years. And >> with good reporting and reaction we have never had to run fsck. >> >> However I'm sure that if you have to run fsck on so big file systems, i

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Lars Hecking >Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:11 PM >To: centos@centos.org >Subject: Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations > > >> OTOH, gparted doesn't see my software raid array ei

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/12/2011 07:24 AM, Dag Wieers wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote: > >> On 04/11/2011 05:07 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: >>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: On 4/11/2011 4:02 PM, Ned Slider wrote: > On 11/04/11 20:16, Digimer wrote: >> >> /putting on asbestos

Re: [CentOS] Best configuration for /var/www/html/

2011-04-12 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/2011 05:50 PM, Todd Cary wrote: > For a long period of time, my Apache root directory has been > /home/httpd. For security reasons, this is not so good as > SELinux has informed me. Now all of the files have been copied > to /var/www/etc

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Marian Marinov
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 16:20:22 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Marian Marinov wrote: > >> I'm managing machines with 30TB of storage for more then two years. And > >> with good reporting and reaction we have never had to run fsck. > >> > >> How

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Markus Falb
On 12.4.2011 15:02, Marian Marinov wrote: > On Tuesday 12 April 2011 15:56:54 > rainer-rnrd0m5o0maboiyizis...@public.gmane.org wrote: > Yes... but with such RAID10 solution you get only half of the disk space... > so > from 10 2TB drives you get only 10TB instead of 16TB with RAID6. From a som

Re: [CentOS] Best configuration for /var/www/html/

2011-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/11/2011 04:50 PM, Todd Cary wrote: > For a long period of time, my Apache root directory has been > /home/httpd. For security reasons, this is not so good as > SELinux has informed me. Now all of the files have been copied > to /var/www/etc with owner and group "root". The privileges ar

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Markus Falb wrote: > On 12.4.2011 15:02, Marian Marinov wrote: > > On Tuesday 12 April 2011 15:56:54 > rainer-rnrd0m5o0maboiyizis...@public.gmane.org wrote: > > > Yes... but with such RAID10 solution you get only half of the disk > space... so > > from 10 2TB driv

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Marian Marinov
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 16:48:14 Markus Falb wrote: > On 12.4.2011 15:02, Marian Marinov wrote: > > On Tuesday 12 April 2011 15:56:54 > > rainer-rnrd0m5o0maboiyizis...@public.gmane.org wrote: > > > > Yes... but with such RAID10 solution you get only half of the disk > > space... so from 10 2TB dr

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 09:30:43 AM Johnny Hughes wrote: > They are instead Beta or Alpha and should not be used in production > (IMHO) ... but everyone gets to control their own servers. Let me echo this, and state that the alpha and beta announcements I have seen from the SL team say the sa

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 02:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> There are pages in the wiki that already describe what we are doing >> right now. > > Really? Where do I look to see what has been tried with packages that are > currently failing QA or not building yet? Or even what are the current > time-consuming p

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 02:11 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Let me *strongly* suggest that tests *should* be automated. Not only is it > faster, but for regression tests, a human tester will miss occasional > steps, where an automated set will guarantee every step is completed. there is a process and reques

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-12 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: Hi John, Thnks for your answer. Here are the content of /etc/krb5.conf and klist -ke. I agree that there can be siomething missing, that was working before... The keytab isn't valid for the host as it doesn't contain a usable principal for doing a valida

Re: [CentOS] KVM resources?

2011-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/11/2011 08:58 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: > On 11.4.2011 16.07, Torres, Giovanni (NIH/NINDS) [C] wrote: >> 5.6 version of the virtualization guide from RedHat includes Xen and KVM: > > Oh damn. I didn't notice the URL which said 5.2. Thanks. http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Boris Epstein
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Alain Péan wrote: > Le 12/04/2011 09:23, Matthew Feinberg a écrit : > > Hello All > > > > I have a brand spanking new 40TB Hardware Raid6 array to play around > > with. I am looking for recommendations for which filesystem to use. I am > > trying not to break this

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread David Miller
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > > That's not the issue. > The issue is rebuild-time. > The longer it takes, the more likely is another failure in the array. > With RAID6, this does not instantly kill your RAID, as with RAID5 - but I > assume it will further decrease overall-performance a

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-12 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: Sorrry, little error with the output of klit -ke, because I am testing on a test AD domain at this moment. On the first machine, output is : # klist -ke Keytab name: FILE:/etc/krb5.keytab KVNO Principal -

[CentOS] ksign: module signed with unknown public key

2011-04-12 Thread Lars Hecking
What's the correct way to deal with this? I've rebuilt a kernel with an additional patch for one particular module, but I'm trying to load the new module into a distribution kernel. I'm not planning to roll out the updated kernel package. ksign: module signed with unknown public key - signatu

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Christopher Chan
On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:07 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 02:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> There are pages in the wiki that already describe what we are doing >>> right now. >> >> Really? Where do I look to see what has been tried with packages that are >> currently failing QA or

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread m . roth
Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 02:11 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Let me *strongly* suggest that tests *should* be automated. Not only is >> it >> faster, but for regression tests, a human tester will miss occasional >> steps, where an automated set will guarantee every step is completed.

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Lamar Owen wrote: > The only disagreement I would have with them is calling the alphas and betas > 'releases.' But it's their distribution. Word "release" means anything send out to the wild. Like you would release some animal after you cured it's broken leg/wing. I think proper term for what

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread John Jasen
On 04/12/2011 10:21 AM, Boris Epstein wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Alain Péan > > wrote: I would chime in with a dis-commendation for XFS. At my previous employer, two cases involving XFS resulted in irrecoverable data corruption. These were

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 03:33 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > RW: between work, and moving, and most of my stuff in storage at the > moment while I house-hunt, and, oh, yes, worrying about whether we're > working Friday, here with the US gov't I hear you, 38 hrs/week at dayjob, then 30hrs/week on CentOS a

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 03:31 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: > How are you going to vet the stuff? The QA team will be responsible for > that? For all the talk of giving others the exact tools to replicate a > Centos distro - just how is the stuff produced by a zillion would be > contributors (assuming they don

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/12/2011 9:07 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > >>> There are pages in the wiki that already describe what we are doing >>> right now. >> >> Really? Where do I look to see what has been tried with packages that are >> currently failing QA or not building yet? Or even what are the current >> time-con

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Marian Marinov
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 17:36:39 John Jasen wrote: > On 04/12/2011 10:21 AM, Boris Epstein wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Alain Péan > > > > > wrote: > > > I would chime in with a dis-commendation for XFS. At my previous > employer, two case

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread m . roth
Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 03:33 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> RW: between work, and moving, and most of my stuff in storage at the >> moment while I house-hunt, and, oh, yes, worrying about whether we're >> working Friday, here with the US gov't > > I hear you, 38 hrs/week at dayjo

Re: [CentOS] Best configuration for /var/www/html/

2011-04-12 Thread Todd Cary
On 4/12/2011 6:56 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 04/11/2011 04:50 PM, Todd Cary wrote: For a long period of time, my Apache root directory has been /home/httpd. For security reasons, this is not so good as SELinux has informed me. Now all of the files have been copied to /var/www/etc with owner

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi, On 04/12/2011 04:02 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Sorry. Actually, here's a question along those lines: what are you testing > - the build process, or the individual packages? At the moment there is automation around the process, not nearly as much as I'd like - but its there and it works ju

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > I was really hoping for you to reply with something along the > lines of 'there isnt enough info about the test process' or > 'are there some templates that we can start with' etc. > Those things I can try to do > something about, finding you more time in the da

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | On Tuesday 12 April 2011 17:36:39 John Jasen wrote: | > On 04/12/2011 10:21 AM, Boris Epstein wrote: | > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Alain Péan | > > | > > > wrote: | > | > | > I would chime in with a dis-commendation f

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/12/2011 9:36 AM, John Jasen wrote: > > > > I would chime in with a dis-commendation for XFS. At my previous > employer, two cases involving XFS resulted in irrecoverable data > corruption. These were on RAID systems running from 4 to 20 TB. Was this on a 32 or 64 bit system? -- Les Mike

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 04:01 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> The process is not the product. > Exactly, and I don't see anyone complaining about the product - just > wondering if some number of months could be shaved off the process. Fixing the timing of release is something we get from getting the process int

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 04:08 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > If compile/test servers are an issue, can we do for CentOS what we do > for distributed Prime number/SETI computation serving? Not as far as I know, ensuring environ sanity across something of this nature would

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread m . roth
Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 04:08 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >> If compile/test servers are an issue, can we do for CentOS what we do >> for distributed Prime number/SETI computation serving? > > Not as far as I know, ensuring environ sanity across so

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 74, Issue 3

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi Ned, On 04/11/2011 10:02 PM, Ned Slider wrote: >> each release is more complex than the last. The web of dependency grows, >> so the reverse-engineering takes longer and longer. > This is just complete nonsense. You clearly have no understanding of the > processes involved in rebuilding RHEL. C

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 04:58 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Not as far as I know, ensuring environ sanity across something of this >> nature would be a massive issue. Not easy to solve, unless the environ >> as a whole is shipped out. > > Actually, that is what's needed, perhaps: a repeatable environment, n

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-12 Thread Alain Péan
Le 12/04/2011 16:28, John Hodrien a écrit : > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: > >> Sorrry, little error with the output of klit -ke, because I am testing >> on a test AD domain at this moment. On the first machine, output is : >> # klist -ke >> Keytab name: FILE:/etc/krb5.keytab >> KVNO Prin

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 04:01 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> The process is not the product. >> Exactly, and I don't see anyone complaining about the product - just >> wondering if some number of months could be shaved off the process. > > Fixing the ti

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Keith Keller
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 06:00:57PM +0300, Marian Marinov wrote: > > Can someone(who actually knows) share with us, what is the state of > xfs-utils, > how stable and usable are they for recovery of broken XFS filesystems? I have done an XFS repair once or twice on a real filesystem (~4TB) in a

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-12 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: In fact, I solved the problem using the authconfig command, but I wonder if it is really correct, as I mixed kerberos and ldap. Here is the authconfig command for my test domain : Using kerberos and ldap is a perfectly reasonable thing to want to do, but

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:36:39AM -0400, John Jasen wrote: > On 04/12/2011 10:21 AM, Boris Epstein wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Alain Péan > > > > wrote: > > > > I would chime in with a dis-commendation for XFS. At my previous > employer,

Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-12 Thread Alain Péan
Le 12/04/2011 18:29, John Hodrien a écrit : > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote: > >> In fact, I solved the problem using the authconfig command, but I wonder >> if it is really correct, as I mixed kerberos and ldap. Here is the >> authconfig command for my test domain : > > Using kerberos and

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 05:19 PM, Brian Mathis wrote: >> Fixing the timing of release is something we get from getting the >> process into the right place. And not the other way around. There seems > NO ONE IS SAYING TO PUSH CRAP OUT THE DOOR JUST FOR THE SAKE OF > GETTING IT OUT. EVERYONE IS SAYING TO OPEN

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/11/2011 10:27 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > If it were me, wiser you are to listen to frogs and crickets. > Dag is saying "I want to help but your system is closed". Just to be clear, Dag isnt saying that at all. What he is saying is that 'I dont want to help by actually doing anything, bu

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/12/2011 10:55 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > >> If compile/test servers are an issue, can we do for CentOS what we do >> for distributed Prime number/SETI computation serving? > > Not as far as I know, ensuring environ sanity across something of this > nature would be a massive issue. Not easy to

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 06:02 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 4/12/2011 10:55 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: >> >>> If compile/test servers are an issue, can we do for CentOS what we do >>> for distributed Prime number/SETI computation serving? >> >> Not as far as I know, ensuring environ sanity across something of

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/12/2011 12:04 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > >>> If compile/test servers are an issue, can we do for CentOS what we do for distributed Prime number/SETI computation serving? >>> >>> Not as far as I know, ensuring environ sanity across something of this >>> nature would be a massive issu

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/12/2011 06:14 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > I don't understand. That has been mentioned as the slow/hard part of the > process. What is it that really takes months if not that? > you did read my reply to this question of yours in a different part of the thread right ? - KB

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/12/2011 12:00 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 05:19 PM, Brian Mathis wrote: >>> Fixing the timing of release is something we get from getting the >>> process into the right place. And not the other way around. There seems >> NO ONE IS SAYING TO PUSH CRAP OUT THE DOOR JUST FOR THE SAK

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-12 Thread aurfalien
On Apr 12, 2011, at 12:31 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 04/12/11 12:23 AM, Matthew Feinberg wrote: >> Hello All >> >> I have a brand spanking new 40TB Hardware Raid6 array > > never mind file systems... is that one raid set?do you have any > idea > how LONG rebuilding that is going to take w

[CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: > But Johnny's postings seem pretty insistent on never releasing the > actual scripts in a form that can be used elsewhere or by anyone outside > the project, so maybe a more productive approach would be some way of oh horse puckey, troll -- it is just 'sh

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/12/2011 12:21 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 04/12/2011 06:14 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> I don't understand. That has been mentioned as the slow/hard part of the >> process. What is it that really takes months if not that? >> > > you did read my reply to this question of yours in a different p

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