Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread David Sommerseth
On 05/04/11 01:29, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Brian Mathis > wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:57 PM, R P Herrold wrote: >>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >>> OK guys. Why don't you fork the CentOS project and build your own??? Why don't

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread David Sommerseth
On 05/04/11 01:29, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 07:22:43PM -0400, Brian Mathis wrote: >> >> All that is needed to stop the weekly explosions are some regular >> updates about the process. Something like "Working on xyz package but >> ran into this problem. Still have to look

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread David Sommerseth
On 05/04/11 00:51, Jimmy Bradley wrote: > I've seen the posts over and over again about "when is 6 going to > be out?" I appreciate the time the developers put in to make cent os > available. > My main question about when is 6 going to be out is, does it > really matter? 5.5 works just

Re: [CentOS] KVM Host Disk Performance

2011-04-07 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Scott Robbins wrote: > Not all that unique, but a bit better--I think it's > VolumeGroup00/lvm_root, VolumeGroup00/lvm_swap, and things like that. > > (Keeping both LVs in the same VG by default.) As far as I know it's much better than that: The volume group by default with E

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Tom Yates
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Hendrik wrote: > Do you notice nothing? Or is that the Indian mentality? I've been watching the C6/5.6/4.9 delay debate quietly for some time now, and I've seen what I thought were valid positions and intelligent comments on both sides of the debate. But that wasn't one of

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Russell Jones wrote: > A bigger number? :-) > > On 4/6/2011 7:52 AM, compdoc wrote: >>> "What the hell is so special about CentOS 6?" >> indeed >> Just newer kernel and newer core packages that can drive newer applications. CentOS 5.5 kernel and core packages are 3-4 years old in the (Linux) wor

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Just newer kernel and newer core packages that can drive newer > applications. CentOS 5.5 kernel and core packages are 3-4 years old in > the (Linux) world that dramatically changed since then. I wouldn't refer to the 5.5 kernel as 3-4 years old as

Re: [CentOS] Intel 82599 driver?

2011-04-07 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 07:07:59 pm Lars Hecking wrote: > > This does not mean it's not supported it's just not in the pci-id > > database. > > > > You could try to update just the pci-db with: > > # update-pciids > > Cool! > > 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82599EB 10 Gig

Re: [CentOS] Intel 82599 driver?

2011-04-07 Thread Lars Hecking
> There are more than one NIC-model with 82599EB and evidently not all work > with > the CentOS driver. What we're using successfully is X520-DA2: > > Intel Corporation 82599EB 10-Gigabit Network Connection (rev 01) > > What do you have? http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-012904.htm

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Anton Parol
Racism in open source software. That's the first time I've seen that. Regardless of your dislike for someone, even if legitimate, comments like that are NOT acceptable. I suggest you make a swift and sincere apology. CentOS is free, and you get what you pay for. If you don't like it, fork and m

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Anton Parol wrote: > Racism in open source software. That's the first time I've seen that. > Regardless of your dislike for someone, even if legitimate, comments like > that are NOT acceptable. > I suggest you make a swift and sincere apology. > > CentOS is free,

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/06/2011 03:53 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: > yOn Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Karanbir Singh wrote: > >> On 04/04/2011 11:14 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: >>> Nobody else really can give an update, the process is pretty much closed >>> to the general public. So if the only person why can provide information >>> is off

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

2011-04-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
Les Mikesell wrote: >> If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS >> on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear. >> > > I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is > in the /images on the CD or DVD isos on a USB drive (you can use a

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Max Hetrick
On 04/07/2011 08:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Please try to maintain some semblance of professionalism when you post > to this list. This coming from someone who frequently tells people to "SHUT UP" and go away and use something else. I guess that's far more professional than others trying to

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

2011-04-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/7/11 7:47 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > >>> If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS >>> on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear. >>> >> >> I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is >> in the /images on

[CentOS] why are warning be treated as errors?

2011-04-07 Thread Steve Clark
Hello, I am trying to compile RHEL-6 kernel srpm on Fedora 14 and run into the following problem. From what I read -Werror flag causes warnings to be treated as errors - but I don't see that flag on in the following. Any ideas? gcc -Wp,-MD,arch/x86/kernel/acpi/realmode/.wakemain.o.d -nostdi

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Radu Gheorghiu
On 04/07/2011 03:58 PM, Max Hetrick wrote: > On 04/07/2011 08:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > >> Please try to maintain some semblance of professionalism when you post >> to this list. > This coming from someone who frequently tells people to "SHUT UP" and go > away and use something else. I guess th

Re: [CentOS] why are warning be treated as errors?

2011-04-07 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Steve Clark wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to compile RHEL-6 kernel srpm on Fedora 14 and run into the > following problem. From what I read > -Werror flag causes warnings to be treated as errors - but I don't see that > flag on in the following. Any ideas? > >   g

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

2011-04-07 Thread Markus Falb
On 7.4.2011 14:47, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > >>> If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS >>> on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear. >>> >> >> I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is >> in the /images o

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

2011-04-07 Thread m . roth
Timothy Murphy wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > >>> If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS >>> on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear. I know if you search this mailinglist's archives, you'll find my post from last year; a quick google found it this way

Re: [CentOS] why are warning be treated as errors?

2011-04-07 Thread Steve Clark
On 04/07/2011 09:13 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Steve Clark wrote: Hello, I am trying to compile RHEL-6 kernel srpm on Fedora 14 and run into the following problem. From what I read -Werror flag causes warnings to be treated as errors - but I don't see that flag on i

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 04/07/2011 03:58 PM, Max Hetrick wrote: >> On 04/07/2011 08:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> >>> Please try to maintain some semblance of professionalism when you >>> post to this list. >> This coming from someone who frequently tells people to "SHUT UP" >> and

[CentOS] Mirrors

2011-04-07 Thread Kai Schaetzl
I noticed that I didn't get any of the 5.6 updates rsynced yet, so I checked my mirror and then the mirrors list. This mirror is indeed not on the list anymore and also not on the status page. However, I see other mirrors still on the list that are lagging for days. And I see that this mirror h

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread David Sommerseth
On 07/04/11 15:11, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: > On 04/07/2011 03:58 PM, Max Hetrick wrote: >> On 04/07/2011 08:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> >>> Please try to maintain some semblance of professionalism when you post >>> to this list. >> This coming from someone who frequently tells people to "SHUT UP"

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of David Sommerseth >Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:42 PM >To: centos@centos.org >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? > >Which is why I'm investigating a migration to Scientific Linux. [

Re: [CentOS] ZFS @ centOS

2011-04-07 Thread Ross Walker
On Apr 5, 2011, at 4:19 PM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: > > >> But ... >> I've been reading about some of the issues with ZFS performance and have >> discovered that it needs a *lot* of RAM to support decent caching ... >> the recommendation is for a GByte of RAM per TByte of storage just for

Re: [CentOS] why are warning be treated as errors?

2011-04-07 Thread David Sommerseth
On 07/04/11 15:10, Steve Clark wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to compile RHEL-6 kernel srpm on Fedora 14 and run into the > following problem. From what I read > -Werror flag causes warnings to be treated as errors - but I don't see that > flag on in the following. Any ideas? Most likely because

Re: [CentOS] why are warning be treated as errors?

2011-04-07 Thread Neil Viglieno
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 09:10 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to compile RHEL-6 kernel srpm on Fedora 14 and run into > the following problem. From what I read > -Werror flag causes warnings to be treated as errors - but I don't see > that flag on in the following. Any ideas? >

Re: [CentOS] why are warning be treated as errors?

2011-04-07 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to compile RHEL-6 kernel srpm on Fedora 14 and > run into the following problem. From what I read > -Werror flag causes warnings to be treated as errors - but I > don't see that flag on in the following. Any ideas? My guess: gcc4.4.4 had

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

2011-04-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/7/2011 8:14 AM, Markus Falb wrote: >>> I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is >>> in the /images on the CD or DVD isos on a USB drive (you can use a >>> loopback mount to get it if you can't find a place to download it >>> separately), boot from it, pick nfs

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

2011-04-07 Thread Tom Grace
On 07/04/11 15:40, Les Mikesell wrote: > There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to > confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install grub. The thing to watch for with this is "Disk ordering" in the grub setup (only in the graphical installer). Generall

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Brian Mathis
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote: >>-Original Message- >>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >>Of David Sommerseth >>Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:42 PM >>To: centos@centos.org >>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? >> >>Which i

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

2011-04-07 Thread m . roth
Tom Grace wrote: > On 07/04/11 15:40, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to >> confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install grub. > The thing to watch for with this is "Disk ordering" in the grub setup > (only in the graph

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/7/2011 8:47 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >> Of David Sommerseth >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:42 PM >> To: centos@centos.org >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? >> >> Which is why

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 08:52, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Anton Parol > wrote: >> Racism in open source software. That's the first time I've seen that. >> Regardless of your dislike for someone, even if legitimate, comments like >> that are NOT acceptable. >> I suggest

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Corey A Johnson
On 4/7/2011 11:00 AM, Eduardo Grosclaude wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 08:52, Rudi Ahlers wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Anton Parol >> wrote: >>> Racism in open source software. That's the first time I've seen that. >>> Regardless of your dislike for someone, even if legitimate, c

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

2011-04-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/7/2011 9:52 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Tom Grace wrote: >> On 07/04/11 15:40, Les Mikesell wrote: >> >>> There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to >>> confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install grub. >> The thing to watch for with this is "D

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

2011-04-07 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On 4/7/2011 9:52 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Tom Grace wrote: >>> On 07/04/11 15:40, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install grub. >>> The t

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Markus Falb
On 7.4.2011 16:58, Les Mikesell wrote: > While SL and other distributions are perfectly fine for almost all uses, > there's a certain irony in the fact the single advantage of CentOS is > the ease of converting from it to a paid/supported RHEL installation, > and the RH changes that make the re

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 7.4.2011 16:58, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> While SL and other distributions are perfectly fine for almost all >> uses, there's a certain irony in the fact the single advantage of >> CentOS is the ease of converting from it to a paid/supported RHEL >> installatio

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

2011-04-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/7/2011 10:08 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to > confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install > grub. The thing to watch for with this is "Disk ordering" in the grub setup (only in the

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread MJang
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 11:23 -0400, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > > On 7.4.2011 16:58, Les Mikesell wrote: > > > >> While SL and other distributions are perfectly fine for almost all > >> uses, there's a certain irony in the fact the single advantage of > >> CentOS i

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Scott Silva
on 4/6/2011 2:59 PM Hendrik spake the following: > 2011/4/6 Karanbir Singh : >> On 04/06/2011 09:53 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: That's not hard to do - stop reading them then. >>> >>> And once again we are avoiding a proper solution. >>> >> >> No, once again you dont understand the issues, the probl

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 11:23 -0400, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >>> On 7.4.2011 16:58, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> >>> This sounds as if RH is responsible for not yet released CentOS 6 ? >>> What did I miss ? What changes do you talking

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Brian Mathis
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >> On 7.4.2011 16:58, Les Mikesell wrote: >> >>> While SL and other distributions are perfectly fine for almost all >>> uses, there's a certain irony in the fact the single advantage of >>> CentOS is the e

Re: [CentOS] why are warning be treated as errors?

2011-04-07 Thread Steve Clark
On 04/07/2011 10:01 AM, Neil Viglieno wrote: On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 09:10 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Hello, I am trying to compile RHEL-6 kernel srpm on Fedora 14 and run into the following problem. From what I read -Werror flag causes warnings to be treated as errors - but I don't see that flag

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Markus Falb
On 7.4.2011 17:23, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >> On 7.4.2011 16:58, Les Mikesell wrote: >> >>> While SL and other distributions are perfectly fine for almost all >>> uses, there's a certain irony in the fact the single advantage of >>> CentOS is the ease of converti

Re: [CentOS] why are warning be treated as errors?

2011-04-07 Thread Steve Clark
On 04/07/2011 10:25 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: Hello, I am trying to compile RHEL-6 kernel srpm on Fedora 14 and run into the following problem. From what I read -Werror flag causes warnings to be treated as errors - but I don't see that flag on in the followi

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread MJang
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 11:36 -0400, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 11:23 -0400, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > >> centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > >>> On 7.4.2011 16:58, Les Mikesell wrote: > >>> > >>> This sounds as if RH is responsible for not y

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ian Murray
> > These people are priceless and don't deserve to be > > submitted to the harshness we have been witnessing lately. And everyone else is worthless and deserve the rudeness handed out by the devs? Why don't you make comment on that or is that perfectly acceptable because of "who they are?"

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/7/2011 10:23 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > >>> While SL and other distributions are perfectly fine for almost all >>> uses, there's a certain irony in the fact the single advantage of >>> CentOS is the ease of converting from it to a paid/supported RHEL >>> installation, and the RH changes th

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Radu Gheorghiu
On 04/07/2011 06:49 PM, Ian Murray wrote: > >>> These people are priceless and don't deserve to be >>> submitted to the harshness we have been witnessing lately. > > And everyone else is worthless and deserve the rudeness handed out by the > devs? > Why don't you make comment on that or is that p

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:23:51 AM Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > AIUI: In previous releases, RH distributed source + patches. Starting > 6.0 RH releases patched source. This makes backing out a patch, or > backporting patches from future development in Fedora (e.g.) far more > nightmarish than

Re: [CentOS] Feeding CentOS build results to twitter

2011-04-07 Thread Scott Silva
on 4/5/2011 11:46 PM John R Pierce spake the following: > On 04/05/11 11:32 PM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: >> A lot of the anxiety seems to be about the silence about any kind of >> progress. > > there's a fair amount of traffic on centos-devel > > archives here, > http://lists.centos.org/pipermai

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/07/2011 08:11 AM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: > On 04/07/2011 03:58 PM, Max Hetrick wrote: >> On 04/07/2011 08:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> >>> Please try to maintain some semblance of professionalism when you post >>> to this list. >> This coming from someone who frequently tells people to "SHUT

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message > From: Radu Gheorghiu > To: centos@centos.org > Sent: Thu, 7 April, 2011 16:55:49 > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? > > On 04/07/2011 06:49 PM, Ian Murray wrote: > > > >>> These people are priceless and don't deserve to be > >>> submitted to the harshnes

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Radu Gheorghiu
On 04/07/2011 07:02 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 04/07/2011 08:11 AM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: >> On 04/07/2011 03:58 PM, Max Hetrick wrote: >>> On 04/07/2011 08:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> Please try to maintain some semblance of professionalism when you post to this list. >>> This com

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ian Murray
> If you WANT a service level agreement with me, then you may contract for > one. If you pay me enough, I will guarantee you updates on what ever > schedule you are willing to pay for. I will be very professional in my > dealings with you in that case too. > > When you want something that

[CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

2011-04-07 Thread Akemi Yagi
Changing the subject line for good ... On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:23:51 AM Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> AIUI: In previous releases, RH distributed source + patches.  Starting >> 6.0 RH releases patched source.  This makes backing out a patch,

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:49, Ian Murray wrote: > > >> > These people are priceless and don't deserve to  be >> > submitted to the harshness we have been witnessing lately. > > > And everyone else is worthless and deserve the rudeness handed out by the > devs? > Why don't you make comment on that

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread MJang
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 08:48 -0700, MJang wrote: > On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 11:36 -0400, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > > centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 11:23 -0400, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > > >> centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > > >>> On 7.4.2011 16:58, Les Mikesell wrote:

Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

2011-04-07 Thread Tom Bishop
This is excellent information Akemi, provides opportunities for folks to dig in and specific information that is needed and where to go to learn more...Thanks! :) On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: > Changing the subject line for good ... > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Lamar

Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

2011-04-07 Thread Steve Clark
On 04/07/2011 12:19 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote: Changing the subject line for good ... On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:23:51 AM Brunner, Brian T. wrote: AIUI: In previous releases, RH distributed source + patches. Starting 6.0 RH releases patched so

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/7/2011 11:02 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > If you WANT a service level agreement with me, then you may contract for > one. If you pay me enough, I will guarantee you updates on what ever > schedule you are willing to pay for. I will be very professional in my > dealings with you in that case

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread James N. Smith
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/3980096/we-didnt-start-the-flame-war The theme song of flame wars everywhere :) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On 4/7/2011 11:02 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> >> If you WANT a service level agreement with me, then you may contract for >> one. If you pay me enough, I will guarantee you updates on what ever >> schedule you are willing to pay for. I will be very professional in my >> deal

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
>mark, waiting to find out if the Republicans shut down the > gov't, and his paycheck There are as many Democrats as Republicans preventing success. Brian, who doesn't consider yet another bloating of the budget deficit to be a success. Insert spiffy .sig h

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread compdoc
> http://www.collegehumor.com/video/3980096/we-didnt-start-the-flame-war >The theme song of flame wars everywhere :) Great song. At least all messages titled "Centos 6 Update?" Are easy to spot and delete. :) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

2011-04-07 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Steve Clark wrote: > On 04/07/2011 12:19 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote: > > http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4586 > > Point 2 (note 12051) is the one that is relevant. I welcome any > feedback / suggestions for the proposed method I outlined there. > While you are there, l

[CentOS] Can anyone suggest a SCSI 3 card in either PCI-X or PCI-E x 4 for a Dell Poweredge 2900?

2011-04-07 Thread Kevin Thorpe
The only PCI-X card I have is an old ICP Vortex RAID controller and the Dell hangs with that installed (BIOS is disabled). It's only for a tape drive so performance isn't really an issue. thanks ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.cen

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > Good ... if you don't like CentOS, then we do not want you to use it. > > For people who do like it, we do want you to use it. > > What we do not want is for people to think that they have a Service > Level Agreement with CentOS to produce

Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

2011-04-07 Thread Rob Kampen
Tom Bishop wrote: This is excellent information Akemi, provides opportunities for folks to dig in and specific information that is needed and where to go to learn more...Thanks! :) On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Akemi Yagi > wrote: Changing the subject line for

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread James N. Smith
Very true. Maybe it's time to go load some custom rules into MailScanner :) -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of compdoc Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:18 PM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? >

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Александр Кириллов
>> Fully agree. This attitude has lead many companies I know to drop >> CentOS >> in favour of other distros. This project is sure not going in the >> right >> direction. >> I know, I'm going to be told to use something else, I know I know, >> I'm >> looking for alternatives. > > Good ... if you

Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

2011-04-07 Thread Steve Clark
On 04/07/2011 01:18 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Steve Clark wrote: On 04/07/2011 12:19 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4586 Point 2 (note 12051) is the one that is relevant. I welcome any feedback / suggestions for the proposed method I outli

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a SCSI 3 card in either PCI-X or PCI-E x 4 for a Dell Poweredge 2900?

2011-04-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/07/11 10:23 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > The only PCI-X card I have is an old ICP Vortex RAID controller and > the Dell hangs with that installed (BIOS is disabled). > > It's only for a tape drive so performance isn't really an issue. parallel scsi is becoming somewhat archaic, and probably get

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a SCSI 3 card in either PCI-X or PCI-E x 4 for a Dell Poweredge 2900?

2011-04-07 Thread Michel van Deventer
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 10:45 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > On 04/07/11 10:23 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > > The only PCI-X card I have is an old ICP Vortex RAID controller and > > the Dell hangs with that installed (BIOS is disabled). > > > > It's only for a tape drive so performance isn't really an is

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a SCSI 3 card in either PCI-X or PCI-E x 4 for a Dell Poweredge 2900?

2011-04-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 07, 2011 01:23:45 PM Kevin Thorpe wrote: > The only PCI-X card I have is an old ICP Vortex RAID controller and > the Dell hangs with that installed (BIOS is disabled). Dell typically shipped Adaptec cards; I seem to remember 39160's being shipped in some 1850's I have. That wo

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a SCSI 3 card in either PCI-X or PCI-E x 4 for a Dell Poweredge 2900?

2011-04-07 Thread Kevin Thorpe
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:45 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 04/07/11 10:23 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote: >> The only PCI-X card I have is an old ICP Vortex RAID controller and >> the Dell hangs with that installed (BIOS is disabled). >> >> It's only for a tape drive so performance isn't really an issue. >

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a SCSI 3 card in either PCI-X or PCI-E x 4 for a Dell Poweredge 2900?

2011-04-07 Thread Kevin Thorpe
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Michel van Deventer wrote: > On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 10:45 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: >> On 04/07/11 10:23 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote: >> > The only PCI-X card I have is an old ICP Vortex RAID controller and >> > the Dell hangs with that installed (BIOS is disabled). >>

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a SCSI 3 card in either PCI-X or PCI-E x 4 for a Dell Poweredge 2900?

2011-04-07 Thread Michel van Deventer
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 18:55 +0100, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Michel van Deventer > wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 10:45 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > >> On 04/07/11 10:23 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > >> > The only PCI-X card I have is an old ICP Vortex RAID controller an

[CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Tom H wrote: > This is the kind of answer that CentOS as a project > shouldn't allow (KB's recent use-something-else email is > another example) because it makes the developers look like > rank amateurs. It is _so_ easy to tell others what they should or should not do. Ea

[CentOS] centos 5.6 live cd - not installable to " hard drive?"

2011-04-07 Thread Johan Scheepers
Good day, Downloaded centos 5.6 live cd from... http://mirror.nexcess.net/CentOS/5.6/isos/x86_64/CentOS-5.6-x86_64-LiveCD.iso it is dated 06-04-2011. No option to install on hard disk. Have I missed it somehow? Please some advice. Maybe the address if an installable cd iso please. Thanks Joh

Re: [CentOS] centos 5.6 live cd - not installable to " hard drive?"

2011-04-07 Thread Nicolas Ross
> Downloaded centos 5.6 live cd from... > > http://mirror.nexcess.net/CentOS/5.6/isos/x86_64/CentOS-5.6-x86_64-LiveCD.iso > > it is dated 06-04-2011. > > No option to install on hard disk. > > Have I missed it somehow? > > Please some advice. > > Maybe the address if an installable cd iso please.

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/7/2011 1:05 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > > Johnny has told people how to rebuild; I have told people how > to do so; and KB has done so. Over and over and over again. Nobody wants to make the same builds that will fail QA over and over again. Where have you shared the information that would en

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/7/2011 12:05 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >>> If you WANT a service level agreement with me, then you may contract for >>> one. If you pay me enough, I will guarantee you updates on what ever >>> schedule you are willing to pay for. I will be very professional in my >>> dealings with you in

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a SCSI 3 card in either PCI-X or PCI-E x 4 for a Dell Poweredge 2900?

2011-04-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/07/11 10:49 AM, Michel van Deventer wrote: > What about a PERC4 from Dell (LSI Megaraid , PCI-X). You should be able > to find them for a reasonable price on Ebay (70 euro). I used to have a > few lying around ;) > raid controllers are problematic for tape devices. many don't support plai

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a SCSI 3 card in either PCI-X or PCI-E x 4 for a Dell Poweredge 2900?

2011-04-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/07/11 10:52 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > As for the archaic bit this is a brand new LTO 3 drive so it's not something > from a rummage sale. I'd have had a SATA one if it was available. newer LTO tapes are often SAS or FC, but yeah, SCSI is still on the menu for them. ___

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
I am fully aware of it. But upgrades to the kernel are not the same as newer kernel. And "same" kernel with upgrades means same core packages that block using newer apps. Ljubomir John Hodrien wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> Just newer kernel and newer core package

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a SCSI 3 card in either PCI-X or PCI-E x 4 for a Dell Poweredge 2900?

2011-04-07 Thread Michel van Deventer
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 12:17 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > On 04/07/11 10:49 AM, Michel van Deventer wrote: > > What about a PERC4 from Dell (LSI Megaraid , PCI-X). You should be able > > to find them for a reasonable price on Ebay (70 euro). I used to have a > > few lying around ;) > > > > raid co

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:05 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Tom H wrote: > >> This is the kind of answer that CentOS as a project >> shouldn't allow (KB's recent use-something-else email is >> another example) because it makes the developers look like >> rank amateurs. > > It is _so_

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a SCSI 3 card in either PCI-X or PCI-E x 4 for a Dell Poweredge 2900?

2011-04-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/07/11 10:51 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Thursday, April 07, 2011 01:23:45 PM Kevin Thorpe wrote: >> The only PCI-X card I have is an old ICP Vortex RAID controller and >> the Dell hangs with that installed (BIOS is disabled). > Dell typically shipped Adaptec cards; I seem to remember 39160's b

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Ian Murray wrote: > >> If you WANT a service level agreement with me, then you may contract for >> one. If you pay me enough, I will guarantee you updates on what ever >> schedule you are willing to pay for. I will be very professional in my >> dealings with you in that case too. >> >> When y

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a SCSI 3 card in either PCI-X or PCI-E x 4 for a Dell Poweredge 2900?

2011-04-07 Thread Drew
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Michel van Deventer wrote: > On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 12:17 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: >> raid controllers are problematic for tape devices.   many don't support >> plain passthrough SCSI > Well, I did use one of these controllers for a tape drive actually :) So ha

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Dag Wieers
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, R P Herrold wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Tom H wrote: > >> This is the kind of answer that CentOS as a project >> shouldn't allow (KB's recent use-something-else email is >> another example) because it makes the developers look like >> rank amateurs. > > It is _so_ easy to tell

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ned Slider
On 07/04/11 14:41, David Sommerseth wrote: > On 07/04/11 15:11, Radu Gheorghiu wrote: >> On 04/07/2011 03:58 PM, Max Hetrick wrote: >>> On 04/07/2011 08:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> Please try to maintain some semblance of professionalism when you post to this list. >>> This coming fro

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Tom H wrote: > It's the second time that I point out that the CentOS communication > policy (if you there is one) is completely unprofessional. You can let > off steam by saying "we're volunteers, so we can tell you to use > another distro if you're unhappy" but you do yourselves more harm than > g

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Scott Silva
on 4/7/2011 1:02 PM Dag Wieers spake the following: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, R P Herrold wrote: > >> On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Tom H wrote: >> >>> This is the kind of answer that CentOS as a project >>> shouldn't allow (KB's recent use-something-else email is >>> another example) because it makes the devel

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 07, 2011 04:27:20 PM Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > What is so tempting in CentOS that forces to bash at devs every single > day (and I mean every complainant every day) and saying SL is better, > raising blood pressure to devs (which is why they are loosing their > temper), but

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/7/2011 3:04 PM, Ned Slider wrote: > > CentOS AIMS to be 100% binary compatible and for the most part it is, > but I'm tired of seeing this misnomer repeated over and over like some > holy grail. Personally I'm with Russ on this one that whilst an > admirable goal I think the importance of bina

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