Re: [CentOS] heartbeat configuration for lb

Not 100% On Topic, but perhaps you should try keepalived for vrrp failover on Loadbalancers. Much more reliable, easier to setup and faster switch to the standby host keepalived.org Am 13.12.10 04:50, schrieb Emmett Culley: > On 12/11/2010 07:26 PM, bluethundr wrote: >> Sorry I forgot to finish

Re: [CentOS] What NAS device(s) do you use? And why?

- Dell Equalogic - Very good experience, absolutly reliable - EMC CX Series - Wont´t buy them again, many Problems with the iSCSI - HP MSA - No Problems at all Am 12.12.10 23:12, schrieb Ross Walker: > On Dec 12, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Rudi Ah

Re: [CentOS] What NAS device(s) do you use? And why?

> In one instance we need to host virtual machines, so we don't need > anything fancy. I'm happy with running iSCSI / NFS and even AOE. > Currently we have a few 2U SuperMicro servers with 24bays, running > OpenFiler. But, OpenFiler is outdated and limited when it comes to > scalability. Ideally,

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

> They are OK with the roll-your-own style of Gentoo? > > Especially with it's cutting edge versions, bugs, security holes and the only > way to overcome them is to upgrade to an even newer version that may break > compatibility, introduce new bugs, zero-day vulnerabilities, the list goes on >

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

From: Keith Roberts > I'm on Centos 5.5, and would like to use sox to strip out > any periods of silence > 5 seconds from a batch mp3 audio > files. > Googling I found sox, but it does not seem to support mp3 > files by default. I don't think it is autodetected at runtime. You might have to

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:02 AM, wrote: > >> They are OK with the roll-your-own style of Gentoo? >> >> Especially with it's cutting edge versions, bugs, security holes and the >> only way to overcome them is to upgrade to an even newer version that may >> break compatibility, introduce new bugs

[CentOS] Installing GDChart fails: pecl/gdchart requires PHP extension "gd"

Hello, has anybody solved the problem of installing GDChart on CentOS 5.5 (I've tried both 32 and 64 bit versions)? I have: # rpm -qa | grep -i php php-pear-1.4.9-6.el5 php-gd-5.1.6-27.el5 php-ldap-5.1.6-27.el5 php-pgsql-5.1.6-27.el5 php-5.1.6-27.el5 php-pdo-5.1.6-27.el5 php-common-5.1.6-27.el5

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

On Dec 13, 2010, at 5:02 AM, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: >> They are OK with the roll-your-own style of Gentoo? >> >> Especially with it's cutting edge versions, bugs, security holes and the >> only way to overcome them is to upgrade to an even newer version that may >> break compatib

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

On Dec 13, 2010, at 5:02 AM, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: >> They are OK with the roll-your-own style of Gentoo? >> >> Especially with it's cutting edge versions, bugs, security holes and the >> only way to overcome them is to upgrade to an even newer version that may >> break compatib

[CentOS] Installing Centos 5.5 64 bit issues

Dear All, We have a new SUN BLADE X6270 SERVER MODULES and i am trying to install centos 5.5 64 bit . the installations starts fine but when it reaches the point inialthe X server it says initialization done but then gives a fatal error and stops Appreciate if some one could help me and advice r

Re: [CentOS] Installing Centos 5.5 64 bit issues

On 12/13/10 16:01, benedict dcunha wrote: > Dear All, > We have a new SUN BLADE X6270 SERVER MODULES and i am trying to install > centos 5.5 64 bit . the installations starts fine but when it reaches the > point inialthe X server it says initialization done but then gives a fatal > error and sto

Re: [CentOS] Issues with stat() call on CentOS5 vs CentOS4

Dougal Ballantyne wrote: > > I have recently upgraded several servers from CentOS4 to CentOS5 and I am > noticing a strange change to the stat() call. I have written a very > small program to test and show the behavior. I am calling stat() > against a file which is exported from my NAS and mounted

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010, Jorge Fábregas wrote: To: centos@centos.org From: Jorge Fábregas Subject: Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s On Sunday 12 December 2010 17:02:27 Keith Roberts wrote: I need to remove (or shorten to 5 seconds) any silent sections throughout the Mp3 file - not

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Keith Roberts wrote: > I know about audacity, but I want a command line tool that > will work overnight, on a batch of mp3 files, each about > 15MB per hour. You've got a command line tool that does what you need, it just needs rebuilding with mp3 support. I'm with John Doe'

[CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too complicated for my limited brainpower. What programming language

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

I've not used C# - but as I understand it has similar constructs as Java (and C++)... What about Java didn't you understand? Trying to understand what you didn't understand to make a suggestion... I know, back in the day, I was all about Pascal :) On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Sven Aluoor wrote:

Re: [CentOS] Installing Centos 5.5 64 bit issues

benedict dcunha wrote: > Dear All, > > We have a new SUN BLADE X6270 SERVER MODULES and i am trying to install > centos 5.5 64 bit . the installations starts fine but when it reaches the > point inialthe X server it says initialization done but then gives a fatal > error and stops > > Appreciate if

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

Sven Aluoor wrote: > Hi folks > > I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, > but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is > shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it > because it is too complicated for my limited brainpowe

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

Sven Aluoor wrote: > Hi folks > > I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, > but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is > shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it > because it is too complicated for my limited brainpowe

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

Scot P. Floess wrote: > > I've not used C# - but as I understand it has similar constructs as Java > (and C++)... > > What about Java didn't you understand? Trying to understand what you > didn't understand to make a suggestion... > > I know, back in the day, I was all about Pascal :) > Well, that

Re: [CentOS] What NAS device(s) do you use? And why?

John R Pierce wrote: > On 12/11/10 8:15 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: >> If you use any NAS (or a SAN) devices, what do you use? And I'm >> referring more to larger scale network storage than your home PC or >> home theater system. >> >> We've had very good experiences with our NetGear ReadyNAS devices

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

On Sunday, December 12, 2010 12:48:36 pm Keith Roberts wrote: > Or are there any other programs that can be used to strip > silent periods from MP3's? Please see the mp3splt and mp3join programs referenced by http://stream-recorder.com/forum/mp3-splitting-based-silence-detection-command-line-t55

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On Monday, December 13, 2010 11:14:24 am Sven Aluoor wrote: > What programming language should I learn? Python. You can find useful examples of python code throughout CentOS, beginning the yum itself. Get yourself a copy of 'Dive into Python' (can be had as a free download, legalling) and, wel

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On December 13, 2010 08:14:24 am Sven Aluoor wrote: > Hi folks > > I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, > but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is > shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it > because it is too co

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 10:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > Hi folks > > I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, > but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is > shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it > because it is too complicated

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

On Monday, December 13, 2010 11:26:12 am Lamar Owen wrote: > On Sunday, December 12, 2010 12:48:36 pm Keith Roberts wrote: > > Or are there any other programs that can be used to strip > > silent periods from MP3's? > > Please see the mp3splt and mp3join programs referenced by > http://stream-re

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 17:14 +0100, Sven Aluoor wrote: > Hi folks > I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, > but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is > shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it > because it is too com

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 11:37 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 12/13/2010 10:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: >> Hi folks >> >> I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, >> but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is >> shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but d

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 17:14 +0100, Sven Aluoor wrote: >> Hi folks >> I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, >> but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is >> shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't unde

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

Ha! Well, I wish I could say my like of Java is related to your description :) On a side note, I use to make a living with C++ prior to Java ;) On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Scot P. Floess wrote: >> >> I've not used C# - but as I understand it has similar constructs as Java

Re: [CentOS] What NAS device(s) do you use? And why?

On 12/13/10 12:44 AM, RedShift wrote: > I'd stay away from AoE for high availability, I've tried it at home but > performance can fluctuate and the AoE driver present in CentOS 5 is way too > old. I wasn't able to build a HA setup without corrupting data when failover > occured. > Any HA block

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010, Jorge Fábregas wrote: To: centos@centos.org From: Jorge Fábregas Subject: Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s On Sunday 12 December 2010 17:02:27 Keith Roberts wrote: > I need to remove (or shorten to 5 seconds) any silent > sections throughout the Mp3 fi

Re: [CentOS] Installing Centos 5.5 64 bit issues

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:22 AM, wrote: > benedict dcunha wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> We have a new SUN BLADE X6270 SERVER MODULES and i am trying to install >> centos 5.5 64 bit . the installations starts fine but when it reaches the >> point inialthe X server it says initialization done but then

Re: [CentOS] Issues with stat() call on CentOS5 vs CentOS4

James, Thank you. This is very helpful. It does seem like a very strange change in behavior between CentOS/RHEL4,5 & 6. I am rebuilding a kernel with only i_blksize restored for NFS. Don't like having to change the kernel but might be needed to keep consistency accross releases. -Dougal On Mon,

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek wrote: > Hello all. > > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? > > I have the following situation. I tried to promote CentOS to local bank. They > have now a couple of Gentoo-based systems and I tried to explain them that > CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:22:28PM -0500, Brian Mathis wrote: > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek wrote: > > Hello all. > > > > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? > > > > I have the following situation. I tried to promote CentOS to local > > bank. They have now

[CentOS] adobe flash

I have CentOS5.5 installed in the system. After updating the version of firefox, the videos are playing on the internet. Earlier the message "flash player download required" used to come. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/m

Re: [CentOS] Installing Centos 5.5 64 bit issues

Brian Mathis wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:22 AM, wrote: >> benedict dcunha wrote: >>> >>> We have a new SUN BLADE X6270 SERVER MODULES and i am trying to install >>> centos 5.5 64 bit . the installations starts fine but when it reaches >>> the point inialthe X server it says initialization

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

> Anyone who advocates maintaining from source has simply never > administered more than a handful of machines at a time. > > Great way to learn, but impractical for hundreds to thousands of > machines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portage_%28software%29#Binary_Packages http://www.gentoo.org/

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 05:47:53PM +, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: > > > Anyone who advocates maintaining from source has simply never > > administered more than a handful of machines at a time. > > > > Great way to learn, but impractical for hundreds to thousands of > > machines. >

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 08:53 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > > And python's the only language to use whitespace as a syntax element http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_%28programming_language%29 But seriously, there are a fair number of (mostly older) languages that are fairly picky about whites

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek wrote: > Hello all. > > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? > What does 'enterprise' mean to you? -Kristopher Kane ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/m

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:55:12PM -0500, Kristopher Kane wrote: > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek wrote: > > > Hello all. > > > > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? > > > > What does 'enterprise' mean to you? Space. The final frontier... _

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 11:53 -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 17:14 +0100, Sven Aluoor wrote: > >> Hi folks > >> I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, > >> but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming ex

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: > >> Anyone who advocates maintaining from source has simply never >> administered more than a handful of machines at a time. >> >> Great way to learn, but impractical for hundreds to thousands of >> machines. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portage_%28softwa

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

Ray Van Dolson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:55:12PM -0500, Kristopher Kane wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek wrote: >> >> > Hello all. >> > >> > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? >> > >> >> What does 'enterprise' mean to you? > > Space. The fi

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > My only real usability gripe is the craptastic type management, static > typing would be a big improvement. [But pythonista's heads would explode > at having to eat their own dog-food about writing 'self documenting > code']. Hey, the dogs' food is USDA approved, I be

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On Monday, December 13, 2010 12:54:35 pm Benjamin Franz wrote: > But seriously, there are a fair number of (mostly older) languages that > are fairly picky about whitespace. I still remember writing FORTRAN. We still have one application running on a VAXStation 4000 being maintained in FORTRAN (

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

On Monday, December 13, 2010 01:03:03 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >> What does 'enterprise' mean to you? > > > > Space. The final frontier... > > Hey, that's the question, when you're trying to get new, bigger disks! What we need is a working warp drive. These magnetic impulse drives are still

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday, December 13, 2010 01:03:03 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> >> What does 'enterprise' mean to you? >> > >> > Space. The final frontier... >> >> Hey, that's the question, when you're trying to get new, bigger disks! > > What we need is a working warp drive. These magnet

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Lamar Owen wrote: > To: Keith Roberts > From: Lamar Owen > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s > > On Monday, December 13, 2010 12:01:38 pm you wrote: >> PS The list is quiet today. Hope I'm not loosing anything from it :) > > Did you get my pointer to

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > RHEL is much better about that, although by now the "production" RHEL > 5 is 4 years out of date, the "leading edge" RHEL 6 is now one year > out of date after the lengthy release testing, and CentOS will always > lag that. I believe "out of date

Re: [CentOS] adobe flash

On 12/13/2010 06:30 PM, Ritika Garg wrote: > I have CentOS5.5 installed in the system. After updating the version of > firefox, the videos are playing on the internet. Earlier the message > "flash player download required" used to come. so what? is that a problem? you want your message back? t __

[CentOS] how to install CentOS onto a USB flash drive from Windows?

Hi all, Can anyone please point me to a link with instructions on how to install CentOS 5 onto a USB flash drive, preferably from Windows? I would like to create a full running CentOS installation (with minimal packages obviously) that runs off a USB flash drive, and I don't have a Linux machine

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010/12/13 Gé Weijers : > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> RHEL is much better about that, although by now  the "production" RHEL >> 5 is 4 years out of date, the "leading edge" RHEL 6 is now one year >> out of date after the lengthy release testing, and CentOS will always >>

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010/12/13 Sven Aluoor > Hi folks > > I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, > but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is > shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it > because it is too complicated for my limited bra

[CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, A T Williams wrote: > *But* I am the primary developer of a large Python application > [113K lines and growing] and it *is( an interesting trendlines there [soft economy, or loss of interest in FOSS oritented languages, I wonder] -- I tinkered

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

cornel panceac wrote: > 2010/12/13 Sven Aluoor >> >> I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, >> but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is >> shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it >> because it is too complicated f

[CentOS] Sun X4640

Problems with a relatively new server: anyone have one of these, and if I see ECC errors complaining about "node 2, core x", does "node 2" mean board 2, or is that the third board, counting from zero, or...? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@

Re: [CentOS] Sun X4640

On 12/13/10 11:39 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Problems with a relatively new server: anyone have one of these, and if I > see ECC errors complaining about "node 2, core x", does "node 2" mean > board 2, or is that the third board, counting from zero, or...? means you should call Sun service.

Re: [CentOS] adobe flash

2010/12/13 Pintér Tibor : > On 12/13/2010 06:30 PM, Ritika Garg wrote: >> I have CentOS5.5 installed in the system. After updating the version of >> firefox, the videos are playing on the internet. Earlier the message >> "flash player download required" used to come. > > so what? is that a problem?

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

> What programming language should I learn? It depends what you want to do. - build quickly applications, reusing existing components and understanding a lot of the Linux ecosystem => Python - process quickly huge amount of text files => Practical Exrtaction and Reporting Language (aka. PERL, ye

Re: [CentOS] Sun X4640

John R Pierce wrote: > On 12/13/10 11:39 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Problems with a relatively new server: anyone have one of these, and if >> I see ECC errors complaining about "node 2, core x", does "node 2" mean >> board 2, or is that the third board, counting from zero, or...? > > means you

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 13/12/10 16:14, Sven Aluoor wrote: > I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, > but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is > shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it > because it is too complicated for my limited bra

Re: [CentOS] adobe flash

On 12/13/2010 12:05 PM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > 2010/12/13 Pintér Tibor: >> On 12/13/2010 06:30 PM, Ritika Garg wrote: >>> I have CentOS5.5 installed in the system. After updating the version of >>> firefox, the videos are playing on the internet. Earlier the message >>> "flash player download require

Re: [CentOS] adobe flash

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jerry Franz wrote: > On 12/13/2010 12:05 PM, Sven Aluoor wrote: >> 2010/12/13 Pintér Tibor: >>> On 12/13/2010 06:30 PM, Ritika Garg wrote: I have CentOS5.5 installed in the system. After updating the version of firefox, the videos are playing on the inter

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On Monday, December 13, 2010 03:15:48 pm Nick wrote: > This is a bit like saying "I have 12 years experience of hunting but I too > myopic to aim a pistol," then asking "which firearm should I carry?" To an extent; I read it more along the lines of 'I have 12 years experience hunting with a scope

[CentOS] Specifying 2 LDAP Server for auth

Hi ! We are planing on deploying an ldap master and replica to serve as our new authentication server for our soon to be RedHat cluster. But, we need to be able to function if the master is down for whatever reason. So, I tried to specify 2 servers in the setup-authentification servername secti

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

LOL...great analogy..I think the details will be lost on many non firearm types...but I found it to be a great analogy...:) On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday, December 13, 2010 03:15:48 pm Nick wrote: > > This is a bit like saying "I have 12 years experience of hunti

Re: [CentOS] Specifying 2 LDAP Server for auth

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nicolas Ross wrote: > Hi ! > > We are planing on deploying an ldap master and replica to serve as > our new authentication server for our soon to be RedHat cluster. > But, we need to be able to function if the master is down for > whatever reason. So, I tried to specify 2 s

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 9:37 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 12/13/2010 10:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: >> A friend said that C-Sharp (Mono) is very simple. Is this true? I doubt you'll find it any less complex than Java. The two are very similar, conceptually. C# exists more for political and business reason

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 05:14 PM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > Hi folks > > I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, > but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is > shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it > because it is too complicated

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 14:49 -0700, Warren Young wrote: > On 12/13/2010 9:37 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > > On 12/13/2010 10:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > >> A friend said that C-Sharp (Mono) is very simple. Is this true? > I doubt you'll find it any less complex than Java. The two are very > similar,

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

Warren Young wrote: > On 12/13/2010 9:37 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> On 12/13/2010 10:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > Your next step should be to something simpler, and with less of a > difference to your existing experience. > >> Perl is probably the easiest next step for someone who has shell >> scri

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

Patrick Lists wrote: > On 12/13/2010 05:14 PM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > >> I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, >> but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is >> shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it >> because it is

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > -1 Perl is a withering dinosaur. > I expect by the time P6 arrives very few people will care; Perl has > been fading for a long time. ROTFLMAO! It'll wither some time after the last COBOL program is retired... and definitely after java dies with a stake through its

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 4:28 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > Try perl, you'll like it. We'll ignore the fact that, back in the > nineties, at the end of the 104 or so page man page, the secret was that > it stood for P(athologically) E(clectic) R(ubbish) L(ister) And if you are going to write anything t

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 12:08 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > As the thread was for a newbie recommendation, I'd really > consider Ruby before any of the others, Yes, Ruby can work for much the same reasons I gave for Perl in my previous post in this thread. I'd say it has a bigger mismatch w.r.t. shell script

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 4:32 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > >> -1 Perl is a withering dinosaur. > >> I expect by the time P6 arrives very few people will care; Perl has >> been fading for a long time. > > ROTFLMAO! It'll wither some time after the last COBOL program is > retire

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 05:30:09PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Patrick Lists wrote: > > Have a look at Lua (www.lua.org). Imo it's quite readable and less > > Don't. I have literally never heard of it before, and I at least have > heard of everything else folks have mentioned. Learn something

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 3:02 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 14:49 -0700, Warren Young wrote: >> C# exists more for political and business >> reasons than technical ones; it fills the same space Java could fill, in >> a platform-agnostic world. > > False. C# has significant technical

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 3:30 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Have a look at Lua (www.lua.org). Imo it's quite readable and less > > Don't. I have literally never heard of it before, It's quite popular in some areas, particularly as an embedded scripting engine in games. Having written one substantial prog

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 5:20 PM, Warren Young wrote: > >> Strictness is a *feature*. Especially for someone who wants to >> initially learn programming. > > The OP already tried that, with Java, and didn't like it. > > The argument's bogus anyway. Many experienced programmers want to teach > strictness fro

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 03:49 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > > I doubt if there are a lot that can simultaneously think in procedural > and object concepts, though. Someone who learns that code and data are > different things and that data is not to be trusted will have a hard > time dealing with objects where t

[CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Have a look at Lua (www.lua.org). Imo it's quite readable and less > > Don't. I have literally never heard of it before, and I at least have > heard of everything else folks have mentioned. Learn something that > there's a *large* base of folks who

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 6:08 PM, Benjamin Franz wrote: > >> >> I doubt if there are a lot that can simultaneously think in procedural >> and object concepts, though. Someone who learns that code and data are >> different things and that data is not to be trusted will have a hard >> time dealing with objects

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Gé Weijers wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> RHEL is much better about that, although by now  the "production" RHEL >> 5 is 4 years out of date, the "leading edge" RHEL 6 is now one year >> out of date after the lengthy release testing

Re: [CentOS] Specifying 2 LDAP Server for auth

> It works, but the Red Hat tools don't create the optimal configuration > files. The following works in our environment (two LDAP servers, TLS > required). I set the various timelimit values low to facilitate a > fairly robust failover: > > # /etc/ldap.conf > # > # failover doesn't seem to work wo

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 14 December 2010 03:14, Sven Aluoor wrote: > > I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, > but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is > shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it > because it is too complicated for my

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, > but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is > shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it > because it is too complicated fo

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On 12/13/2010 04:16 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 12/13/2010 6:08 PM, Benjamin Franz wrote: >> >> I don't know about that. I started on Apple Integer BASIC back in 1980, >> dropped to assembly on multiple platforms, and eventually ended up doing >> OO style design in Perl in the 90s *before* it offi

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > Hi folks > > I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, > but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is > shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it > because it is too c

Re: [CentOS] Installing Centos 5.5 64 bit issues

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM, benedict dcunha wrote: > Dear All, > > We have a new SUN BLADE X6270 SERVER MODULES and i am trying to install > centos 5.5 64 bit . the installations starts fine but when it reaches the > point inialthe X server it says initialization done but then gives a fatal

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

On Tuesday, December 14, 2010 02:28 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Oog... I just looked that up > > > mark "not sure I want to know where no man has cut before"

[CentOS] CentOS cluster solution

Dear All, I got a new project to build cloud computing base on centos clustering (clustering and cluster storage). whether failover, load balancing can be applied? I've read about CentOS clustering and cluster storage but I'm still confused, any help or advice in this thread will be appreciate. C

Re: [CentOS] Sun X4640

On 14/12/10 7:12 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > I've been working with them (right, the engineer I'm working with is in > Chile, while I'm in DC). I *think* this is a Linux naming convention, > though. Anyway, after I posted, I mentioned the problem to my manager, and > he suggested I look in dme