Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Mathieu Baudier
> The main thing about Linux that is 'hard' is the fact that you have to > use your brain and make choices: Which web browser? Which office suite? > Which email client? Which desktop? Which Linux distro? For lots of > people this is way too much work.  I guess if these people looked at, I think th

Re: [CentOS] sudo 1.6.9 versus sudo 1.7.2 behavioral differences with umask settings

2010-10-08 Thread John Doe
From: David Goldsmith > On the first server (CentOS 5.4 i386) running sudo 1.6.9pl7-5 (from > base), here are the results of touching a file as a user, as root and as > a user sudoing to root: > On the second server (CentOS x86-64) running sudo 1.7.2p1-7 (from > updates), here are the results

[CentOS] SCSI/SAS error message by mpt2sas.ko

2010-10-08 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Dear all, actually I installed CentOS 5.4 x86_64 on 11 new Dell R710 servers. It is required to use 5.4 to be covered by the NetApp Interoperability Matrix for use of Snapdrive. All systems spit out the error message mpt2sas0: failure at drivers/scsi/mpt2sas/mpt2sas_scsih.c:4637/_scsih_add_devic

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Arturo Fatturi
Mathieu you make a good point in your email. People don't want to make a rational choice. I live in Brazil and I was thinking that in the USA and Europe things would be different. Here in Brazil we can buy a computer - cheap or not - as they say "configured", that is: with MS installed and all th

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 10:33 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: > On Thu, Oct 07, 2010, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >Benjamin Franz wrote: > ... > >'98. But it's starting to have a visible presence, thanks to Vista. > > mark "both hands on the gun, point at foot, fire!" > On the other hand, when I've

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Christopher Chan
> Or pulseaudio, which, as has been said, was a solution in search of a > problem. The latest Fedora thing is systemd, which will help it boot > faster--of course, once it boots, your scanner still won't work unless > there's someone your mom can call. alsa caught up...but whatever > > They

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Christopher Chan
Ben McGinnes wrote: > On 8/10/10 8:27 AM, Phil Schaffner wrote: >> About 10% of the people at my workplace use Linux for the >> desktop despite sizable pressure to the contrary from the CIO. > > Is there a reason for the pressure or is it just a generic pro-M$ and > anti-*nix attitude? > > Or

Re: [CentOS] sudo 1.6.9 versus sudo 1.7.2 behavioral differences with umask settings

2010-10-08 Thread David Goldsmith
On 10/8/2010 4:42 AM, John Doe wrote: > From: David Goldsmith > >> On the first server (CentOS 5.4 i386) running sudo 1.6.9pl7-5 (from >> base), here are the results of touching a file as a user, as root and as >> a user sudoing to root: >> On the second server (CentOS x86-64) running sudo 1.7

Re: [CentOS] sudo 1.6.9 versus sudo 1.7.2 behavioral differences with umask settings

2010-10-08 Thread Phil Schaffner
David Goldsmith wrote on 10/08/2010 09:09 AM: ... > Since the sudo 1.6.9 systems don't like seeing that line in their config > file, I either need to get all the systems upgraded to 1.7.2 or modify > Puppet to push different versions of the /etc/sudoers depending on what > version of sudo is instal

[CentOS] Zoneminder

2010-10-08 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Joseph L. Casale wrote: >> ehh -- The version in RawHide will build and run under C5, >> with some tedious gathering and packaging of buildchain work >> >> [herr...@centos-5 zoneminder]$ rpm -q zoneminder >> zoneminder-1.24.2-5orc >> [herr...@centos-5 zoneminder]$ ls *src.rpm

Re: [CentOS] Zoneminder

2010-10-08 Thread m . roth
R P Herrold wrote: > On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > >>> ehh -- The version in RawHide will build and run under C5, >>> with some tedious gathering and packaging of buildchain work >>> >>> [herr...@centos-5 zoneminder]$ rpm -q zoneminder >>> zoneminder-1.24.2-5orc >>> [herr...@centos

[CentOS] Radeon HD 4550 driver

2010-10-08 Thread m . roth
Upgraded the kernel to the latest, then tried to rebuild the proprietary Catalyst driver for a Radeon HD 4550 on a Dell Optiplex 980. The install dies, with a c error. Anyone else out there succeed in building one on the 2.6.18-194.17.1.el5-x86_64 kernel? I went to the ATI website, and the "instal

Re: [CentOS] Radeon HD 4550 driver

2010-10-08 Thread James A. Peltier
This is a known issue. The next proprietary ATI driver is due to be released sometime next month and will correct it. - Original Message - | Upgraded the kernel to the latest, then tried to rebuild the | proprietary | Catalyst driver for a Radeon HD 4550 on a Dell Optiplex 980. | | The

Re: [CentOS] Radeon HD 4550 driver

2010-10-08 Thread James A. Peltier
BTW: If you choose the previous kernel entry, build the driver you will see that it built fine. The issue is that some functions were removed/renamed in the latest kernel update that the driver uses. - Original Message - | Upgraded the kernel to the latest, then tried to rebuild the |

Re: [CentOS] Radeon HD 4550 driver

2010-10-08 Thread m . roth
James A. Peltier wrote: > This is a known issue. The next proprietary ATI driver is due to be > released sometime next month and will correct it. > Oh, *great*. So I wait a month before I can get his system running a security-fixed kernel Btw, while I was waiting for a reply, I created an acc

Re: [CentOS] sudo 1.6.9 versus sudo 1.7.2 behavioral differences with umask settings

2010-10-08 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:35 PM, David Goldsmith wrote: > On 10/7/2010 9:59 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:48 PM, David Goldsmith wrote: >>> On 10/7/2010 9:25 PM, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 7:20 PM, David Goldsmith wrote: > Two servers, each have normal user

Re: [CentOS] Radeon HD 4550 driver

2010-10-08 Thread James A. Peltier
No problem. It was 6 hours of troubleshooting for me. This is certainly why I hate proprietary drivers. I haven't had any problems with nVidia that I can recall. - Original Message - | James A. Peltier wrote: | > This is a known issue. The next proprietary ATI driver is due to be | >

Re: [CentOS] Radeon HD 4550 driver

2010-10-08 Thread Todd Denniston
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote, On 10/08/2010 02:55 PM: > James A. Peltier wrote: >> This is a known issue. The next proprietary ATI driver is due to be >> released sometime next month and will correct it. >> > Oh, *great*. So I wait a month before I can get his system running a > security-fixed kernel...

Re: [CentOS] Radeon HD 4550 driver

2010-10-08 Thread m . roth
James A. Peltier wrote: > > - Original Message - > | James A. Peltier wrote: > | > This is a known issue. The next proprietary ATI driver is due to be > | > released sometime next month and will correct it. > | > > | Oh, *great*. So I wait a month before I can get his system running a > | s

Re: [CentOS] Radeon HD 4550 driver

2010-10-08 Thread m . roth
Todd Denniston wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote, On 10/08/2010 02:55 PM: >> James A. Peltier wrote: >>> This is a known issue. The next proprietary ATI driver is due to be >>> released sometime next month and will correct it. >>> >> Oh, *great*. So I wait a month before I can get his system running

Re: [CentOS] Radeon HD 4550 driver

2010-10-08 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | James A. Peltier wrote: | > | > - Original Message - | > | James A. Peltier wrote: | > | > This is a known issue. The next proprietary ATI driver is due to | > | > be | > | > released sometime next month and will correct it. | > | > | > | Oh, *great*. So I w

Re: [CentOS] Radeon HD 4550 driver

2010-10-08 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:00 PM, James A. Peltier wrote: >  You can also use the nVidia driver package as part of rpmforge or > rpmfusion which uses DKMS to build the driver for you on each reboot. You don't have to build for each kernel update if you use kernel version independent, kABI-trackin

[CentOS] Was, Re: Radeon HD 4550 driver, is nVidia drivers

2010-10-08 Thread m . roth
Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:00 PM, James A. Peltier wrote: > >>  You can also use the nVidia driver package as part of rpmforge or >> rpmfusion which uses DKMS to build the driver for you on each reboot. > > You don't have to build for each kernel update if you use kernel > versi

Re: [CentOS] Radeon HD 4550 driver

2010-10-08 Thread m . roth
Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:00 PM, James A. Peltier wrote: > >>  You can also use the nVidia driver package as part of rpmforge or >> rpmfusion which uses DKMS to build the driver for you on each reboot. > > You don't have to build for each kernel update if you use kernel > versi

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
Too long, don't read. It's mostly YMMV (religious) anyways. > The main thing about Linux that is 'hard' is the fact that > you have to use your brain and make choices: > Which web browser? We have this same question under Windows. My answer is "all of them, why not?" Some of the web sites I

[CentOS] kmod-kvm for custom CentOS 5.5 kernel

2010-10-08 Thread Ken Dechick
Hello all! I have actual need to build a custom kernel.(Have to change Preemption model to 'server' and turn off Preempt the big kernel lock, ect) I have heard bits and pieces about these changing defaults in newer kernels but I haven't investigated that yet. This of course is not a problem at

Re: [CentOS] error when logging into system - SOLVED

2010-10-08 Thread Ski Dawg
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Craig White wrote: > Is the user a local user? > > What is the output of 'grep passwd /etc/nsswitch'  ? Craig, Sorry for the late reply. I got pulled off on some other projects and am just now getting back to this. Evidentally, I had spent too much time looking a

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Warren Young
On 10/8/2010 6:14 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >> is on Linux servers, but OS X Just Works(tm), and I don't have to be >> constantly fiddling to get tools working. > > I here that occasionally; since you switched to OS X "shortly after it > came out", which is like 5 years ago now OS X came out

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread m . roth
Warren Young wrote: > On 10/8/2010 6:14 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >>> is on Linux servers, but OS X Just Works(tm), and I don't have to be >>> constantly fiddling to get tools working. >> >> I here that occasionally; since you switched to OS X "shortly after it >> came out", which is like 5 y

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Jake Shipton
On 08/10/10 21:50, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > > Too long, don't read. It's mostly YMMV (religious) anyways. > >> The main thing about Linux that is 'hard' is the fact that >> you have to use your brain and make choices: >> Which web browser? > > We have this same question under Windows. My

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Warren Young
On 10/8/2010 4:09 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > But OS X can legally only run on Apple (tm$$$) systems, where Linux can > run on *anything* and anybody's inexpensive hardware. Apple hardware is fairly priced when compared on quality. Yes, there are cheap POS PCs that compare favorably on feature

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Jerry Franz
On 10/08/2010 03:25 PM, Warren Young wrote: > On 10/8/2010 4:09 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >> But OS X can legally only run on Apple (tm$$$) systems, where Linux can >> run on *anything* and anybody's inexpensive hardware. >> > Apple hardware is fairly priced when compared on quality.

Re: [CentOS] Was, Re: Radeon HD 4550 driver, is nVidia drivers

2010-10-08 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Akemi Yagi wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:00 PM, James A. Peltier wrote: >> >>> You can also use the nVidia driver package as part of rpmforge or >>> rpmfusion which uses DKMS to build the driver for you on each reboot. >> >> You don't have to build for each kerne

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On 10/8/2010 5:25 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > But a fair comparison would be the Adobe Creative Suite, since Adobe > presumably wants their software used everywhere. You can't blame Adobe > for not porting it. They've dipped their toe in the water several > times, and shied away each time. I don

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Warren Young
On 10/8/2010 4:40 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 10/8/2010 5:25 PM, Warren Young wrote: >> >> But a fair comparison would be the Adobe Creative Suite, since Adobe >> presumably wants their software used everywhere. You can't blame Adobe >> for not porting it. They've dipped their toe in the water s

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Warren Young
On 10/8/2010 4:29 PM, Jerry Franz wrote: > On 10/08/2010 03:25 PM, Warren Young wrote: >> There's more to a PC than [a] spec list. > > Apple runs commodity hardware that is essentially identical to everyone > else's - just priced 3X more. ...says the guy comparing machines based only on the spec l

Re: [CentOS] Getting Wake on lan to work

2010-10-08 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-6-2010 2:27 PM Robert Heller spake the following: > At Wed, 06 Oct 2010 21:33:25 +0100 CentOS mailing list > wrote: > >> >> My system is: >> Intel CC820 motherboard (which supports PME# wake up for wake on LAN) >> 3com 3C905C which also supports wake on LAN via PME# >> Linux 5.5 >> >> The

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On 10/8/10 5:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: > On 10/8/2010 4:40 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> On 10/8/2010 5:25 PM, Warren Young wrote: >>> >>> But a fair comparison would be the Adobe Creative Suite, since Adobe >>> presumably wants their software used everywhere. You can't blame Adobe >>> for not porti

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:50:30 -0400 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > > Too long, don't read. It's mostly YMMV (religious) anyways. > > > The main thing about Linux that is 'hard' is the fact that > > you have to use your brain and make choices: > > Which web browser? > > We have this same que

Re: [CentOS] looking for a decent free / Open Source flash media server

2010-10-08 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/06/2010 03:37 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > I hope someone can help me with this one. I am looking for a decent > free / Open Source flash media server software which I can run on a > Linux server. Adobe's Flash Media Server > (http://www.adobe.com/products/flashmediaserver/) is very expensive >

Re: [CentOS] Kickstart - URL command

2010-10-08 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/07/2010 04:40 AM, Jörgen Maas wrote: > Any thoughts on feasable workarounds? Use revisor to build a local repository. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread John Jasen
On 10/08/2010 06:25 PM, Warren Young wrote: > On 10/8/2010 4:09 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> But OS X can legally only run on Apple (tm$$$) systems, where Linux can >> run on *anything* and anybody's inexpensive hardware. > > Apple hardware is fairly priced when compared on quality. Yes, there

Re: [CentOS] ldif invalid per syntax

2010-10-08 Thread Tim Dunphy
hmm.. it would seem that grepping the shcema directory for sudoRole or sudo anything doesn't turn up anything... [r...@lcent01:/usr/local/etc/openldap]#grep -ri sudoRole /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/ [r...@lcent01:/usr/local/etc/openldap]#grep -ri sudo /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/ [r...@lcent

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Benjamin Franz
On 10/08/2010 04:03 PM, Warren Young wrote: > On 10/8/2010 4:29 PM, Jerry Franz wrote: >> On 10/08/2010 03:25 PM, Warren Young wrote: >>> There's more to a PC than [a] spec list. >> Apple runs commodity hardware that is essentially identical to everyone >> else's - just priced 3X more. > ...says

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 19:21 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 10/8/10 5:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > On 10/8/2010 4:40 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> On 10/8/2010 5:25 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > I think the explanation is different: they tried for a few years to drum > > up support for FB on Linux,

Re: [CentOS] ldif invalid per syntax

2010-10-08 Thread Tim Dunphy
I just recopied openLDAP.schema as sudoers.schema and added it to slapd.conf [bluethu...@bluethundr-desktop:~/txt/ldif ] $:ldapadd -h ldap -a -W -x -D "cn=Manager,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com" -f /home/bluethundr/txt/sudoers2.ldif Enter LDAP Password: adding new entry "cn=defaults,ou=sudoers,ou=Service

Re: [CentOS] ldif invalid per syntax

2010-10-08 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 10:52:54PM -0400, Tim Dunphy wrote: > I just recopied openLDAP.schema as sudoers.schema and added it to slapd.conf > > > [bluethu...@bluethundr-desktop:~/txt/ldif ] $:ldapadd -h ldap -a -W -x > -D "cn=Manager,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com" -f > /home/bluethundr/txt/sudoers2.ldif

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Keith Keller
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 06:53:04PM -0700, Benjamin Franz wrote: > > Ok. Here is a fairly basic Mac Pro: [snip] Why are we talking about this? Isn't this the CentOS mailing list? ObOnTopic: does anybody know if CentOS supports the MacBookPro7,1 model with the funky SATA controller? It's nontri

Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%

2010-10-08 Thread Julian Thomas
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:25:36 -0600 Warren Young wrote: > >But a fair comparison would be the Adobe Creative Suite, since Adobe >presumably wants their software used everywhere. > Er - not when pressured by Micro$oft. Consider Framemaker, which was actively working on an OS2 (the IBM operating