Re: [CentOS] is Intel VT-d "really" necessary?

2010-09-16 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:24 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > Core I7 is the branding for the desktop CPU family.  The Server > processors are branded Xeon 5500 and 5600 (for dual socket servers) and > Xeon 7000 for 4+ socket servers.   Typically, desktop processors go with > desktop motherboards which

Re: [CentOS] is Intel VT-d "really" necessary?

2010-09-16 Thread John R Pierce
On 09/16/10 12:16 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > Yet the server vendors ship servers, with server chassis, hardware > RAID, redundant power supplies, etc& offer Core i7 options. How does > that work? low end servers, i guess. I'd have to see a specific model to comment specifically. most of the st

[CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Kevin Thorpe
Hi all, We have a bit of a problem with backups. We've been using bacula to tape and now trying to disk but it's a complete nightmare as regards tape management. The backup to file storage went ok for ages and now is stuck 'waiting for max storage jobs' which is odd as that's set to 20 and it

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Theo Band
On 09/16/10 10:34, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > Hi all, > > We have a bit of a problem with backups. We've been using bacula to tape > and now trying to disk but it's a complete nightmare as regards tape > management. The backup to file storage went ok for ages and now is stuck > 'waiting for max st

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Keith Roberts
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Kevin Thorpe > Subject: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system? > > Hi all, > > We have a bit of a problem with backups. We've been using bacula to tape > and now trying to disk but it's a complete nightmare

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Theo Band >Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:53 AM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system? > >> Can anyone suggest a simple backup pac

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread John Doe
From: Kevin Thorpe > We have a bit of a problem with backups. We've been using bacula to tape > and now trying to disk but it's a complete nightmare as regards tape > management. The backup to file storage went ok for ages and now is stuck > 'waiting for max storage jobs' which is odd as th

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Tom Yates
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > We have a bit of a problem with backups. We've been using bacula to tape > and now trying to disk but it's a complete nightmare as regards tape > management. i suspect it's quite annoying when people try to re-engineer your request, but i use bacula for

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Kevin Thorpe
On 16/09/2010 10:35, Tom Yates wrote: > On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > >> We have a bit of a problem with backups. We've been using bacula to tape >> and now trying to disk but it's a complete nightmare as regards tape >> management. > i suspect it's quite annoying when people try to

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Kevin Thorpe >Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:59 AM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system? > >I'll definitely look into BackupPC fo

[CentOS] how to show that a filesystem is ACL-enabled?

2010-09-16 Thread Robert P. J. Day
currently reading the RHEL deployment guide and i have a short question about ACLs that i can test on my centos 5.5 box. here: http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-acls.html the manual clearly claims that, in order to use ACLs on a filesystem

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread David Milholen
Freenas is the way do it. Very simple and fast to get up and running on most hardware platforms. Supports E-sata,USB, IDE, RAID configurations. Can use an old pc laying around but recommend more up2date hardware to meet the demands of a large system. Dual GigE ports with mtu modified will push

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Les Mikesell
On 9/16/10 6:20 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf >> Of Kevin Thorpe >> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:59 AM >> To: CentOS mailing list >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent bac

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread m . roth
> On 9/16/2010 3:34 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote: >>Hi all, >> >> We have a bit of a problem with backups. We've been using bacula to tape >> and now trying to disk but it's a complete nightmare as regards tape >> management. The backup to file storage went ok for ages and now is stuck >> 'waiting fo

Re: [CentOS] how to show that a filesystem is ACL-enabled?

2010-09-16 Thread Miguel Medalha
> >can someone clarify this? is there a command that shows whether a > filesystem is currently acl-enabled? and is the mount man page > simply incomplete in that respect? thanks. tune2fs -l /dev/[hda1,sda1] The values between [ ] are an example only. Replace, of course, with your own

Re: [CentOS] how to show that a filesystem is ACL-enabled?

2010-09-16 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Miguel Medalha wrote: > > > can someone clarify this? is there a command that shows whether a > > filesystem is currently acl-enabled? and is the mount man page > > simply incomplete in that respect? thanks. > > tune2fs -l /dev/[hda1,sda1] > > The values between [ ] ar

Re: [CentOS] how to show that a filesystem is ACL-enabled?

2010-09-16 Thread Toby Bluhm
On 9/16/2010 10:09 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Miguel Medalha wrote: > >> >>> can someone clarify this? is there a command that shows whether a >>> filesystem is currently acl-enabled? and is the mount man page >>> simply incomplete in that respect? thanks. >> >> tun

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Tom Yates
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > You've hit the nail on the head. You've got the proper tape library > hardware. Our ISP uses Bacula absolutely fine for our hosted servers. ah, right. > Our problem is mostly tape management. It will work fine for ages then > we do something stupid li

Re: [CentOS] is Intel VT-d "really" necessary?

2010-09-16 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, September 16, 2010 03:37:23 am John R Pierce wrote: > On 09/16/10 12:16 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > Yet the server vendors ship servers, with server chassis, hardware > > RAID, redundant power supplies, etc& offer Core i7 options. How does > > that work? > > low end servers, i guess

Re: [CentOS] Transferring system to new drive

2010-09-16 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, September 14, 2010 01:42:05 pm Robert Heller wrote: > At Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:19:16 -0400 CentOS mailing list > wrote: > > What about doing all with dd ... If you have the second disk installed in > > the same machine you can do "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb" ort you can use > > clonezil

[CentOS] https

2010-09-16 Thread Jerry Geis
hi all, I wish to just have secure browsing for my application. no credit cards or anything like that just secure browser usage is the goal. I can self sign a certificate (I already have) on my servers but for "anyone" accessing the server you see this "nasty" message about "untrusted sight " an

Re: [CentOS] https

2010-09-16 Thread Kevin Thorpe
On 16/09/2010 16:45, Jerry Geis wrote: > hi all, > > I wish to just have secure browsing for my application. > no credit cards or anything like that just secure browser usage is the goal. > > I can self sign a certificate (I already have) on my servers but for > "anyone" accessing the server > yo

Re: [CentOS] is Intel VT-d "really" necessary?

2010-09-16 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Thursday, September 16, 2010 03:37:23 am John R Pierce wrote: >>   On 09/16/10 12:16 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: >> > Yet the server vendors ship servers, with server chassis, hardware >> > RAID, redundant power supplies, etc&  offer Core i7 optio

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Re: [CentOS] https

2010-09-16 Thread Patrick Lists
On 09/16/2010 05:53 PM, Kevin Thorpe wrote: >On 16/09/2010 16:45, Jerry Geis wrote: >> hi all, >> >> I wish to just have secure browsing for my application. >> no credit cards or anything like that just secure browser usage is the goal. >> >> I can self sign a certificate (I already have) on my

Re: [CentOS] https

2010-09-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 04:53:17PM +0100, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > Sorry, but you need to buy a certificate. It needs to be signed by an > authority which already > has a master certificate in the end user's browser. We use Thawte but > there are cheaper > options such as GoDaddy who offer them for

Re: [CentOS] https

2010-09-16 Thread Brian Mathis
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Patrick Lists wrote: > On 09/16/2010 05:53 PM, Kevin Thorpe wrote: >>    On 16/09/2010 16:45, Jerry Geis wrote: >>> hi all, >>> >>> I wish to just have secure browsing for my application. >>> no credit cards or anything like that just secure browser usage is the g

Re: [CentOS] https

2010-09-16 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 04:53:17PM +0100, Kevin Thorpe wrote: >> Sorry, but you need to buy a certificate. It needs to be signed by an >> authority which already >> has a master certificate in the end user's browser. We use Thawte but >> the

Re: [CentOS] is Intel VT-d "really" necessary?

2010-09-16 Thread John R Pierce
On 09/16/10 8:56 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > Dell's PowerEdge R210 and R310 are available with Core i3. > > But those aren't servers since the Core iX CPU's are desktop class CPU's ;) those are low end servers in Dell's line. I'd be looking at the R410 or R710 for virtualization hosts, along w

[CentOS] https

2010-09-16 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Matthew Miller wrote: > Or get one from: http://cert.startcom.org/ I had seen this cross as well from another poster: > Sorry, but you need to buy a certificate. Bzzzrttt I am firmly with Matthew on this one. When I saw the initial post hit my email inbound queue (not s

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread John R Pierce
On 09/16/10 6:27 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Not sure of a package - we use rsync and scripts - but you should consider > what we do: an external eSATA dock, and a number of inexpensive SATA > drives. It *will* speed up the backups, and recoveries, should you need > them. > > actually? tapes

Re: [CentOS] is Intel VT-d "really" necessary?

2010-09-16 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:09 PM, John R Pierce wrote: >  On 09/16/10 8:56 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: >> >> >  Dell's PowerEdge R210 and R310 are available with Core i3. >> >> But those aren't servers since the Core iX CPU's are desktop class CPU's >> ;) > > > those are low end servers in Dell's line.

Re: [CentOS] is Intel VT-d "really" necessary?

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Hodgson
On September 16, 2010 10:23:15 am Rudi Ahlers wrote: > But I'm convinced now that XEON's would be better even though they're > far more expensive. And at the same time our older Pentium IV, > Core2Duo & Core2Quad machines work as well as our XEON machines, but > at much cheaper prices - which trans

Re: [CentOS] is Intel VT-d "really" necessary?

2010-09-16 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Alan Hodgson wrote: > On September 16, 2010 10:23:15 am Rudi Ahlers wrote: >> But I'm convinced now that XEON's would be better even though they're >> far more expensive. And at the same time our older Pentium IV, >> Core2Duo & Core2Quad machines work as well as ou

Re: [CentOS] https

2010-09-16 Thread Keith Roberts
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Matthew Miller wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Matthew Miller > Subject: Re: [CentOS] https > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 04:53:17PM +0100, Kevin Thorpe wrote: >> Sorry, but you need to buy a certificate. It needs to be signed by an >> authority which already >> has

Re: [CentOS] Transferring system to new drive

2010-09-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
Lamar Owen wrote: > But having done a few now I vastly prefer doing it online using LVM. No > downtime, and it just works, including resizing, as long as you are going > to a larger lv. > > When a server simply has to have minimal downtime, LVM is worth its LoC in > gold for this use. What do y

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Les Mikesell
On 9/16/2010 12:20 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > > actually? tapes like LTO/DLT write *faster* than file systems on hard > disks. in fact the biggest issue in many LTO/DLT backup systems is not > being able to READ the source fast enough to keep the tape busy. > > > re: BackupPC... while this is a

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Hodgson
On September 16, 2010 10:49:04 am Les Mikesell wrote: > Agreed there. Backuppc doesn't know much about tapes and nothing about > changers. But for straight long-term archiving you could wrap a script > around BackupPC_tarCreate to save whatever you wanted off to tape. And > you are on your own f

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Les Mikesell
On 9/16/2010 12:52 PM, Alan Hodgson wrote: > On September 16, 2010 10:49:04 am Les Mikesell wrote: >> Agreed there. Backuppc doesn't know much about tapes and nothing about >> changers. But for straight long-term archiving you could wrap a script >> around BackupPC_tarCreate to save whatever you

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Hodgson
On September 16, 2010 11:02:25 am Les Mikesell wrote: > > Amanda's dumps are standard tar archives and can be restored without > > Amanda. > > Well, sort-of. You have to know how to skip over the amanda label and > header. And how to find the right set of tapes. Sure, but at least it's document

Re: [CentOS] is Intel VT-d "really" necessary?

2010-09-16 Thread John R Pierce
On 09/16/10 10:37 AM, Alan Hodgson wrote: > The 6 core Xeons are still kinda pricey though. > > the new AMD 6-8 core Opteron stuff, OTOH, is relatively cheap, Dell sells these as the Rx15 models, like the R715 they also support a LOT of ram. ___ Ce

[CentOS] Howto enter a password to mount windows share in Places

2010-09-16 Thread Denis
Hi - using gnome I am trying to use Places -> Connect to Server to mount a windows share. I can do: smbclient //disk.site.edu/uname$ -U uname%passwd but have not been able to transfer that infomation into the GUI that can mount the Windows Share, specifically can't figure out how to enter the

Re: [CentOS] is Intel VT-d "really" necessary?

2010-09-16 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:19:38AM +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm just curios and would like some input from the community on this > one. We're busy budgeting for a couple of new servers and I thought it > would be good to try out the Core i7 CPU's, but see the majority of > them don'

Re: [CentOS] Howto enter a password to mount windows share in Places

2010-09-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Denis wrote: > Hi - using gnome I am trying to use Places -> Connect to Server to mount > a windows share. I can do: > > smbclient //disk.site.edu/uname$ -U uname%passwd > > but have not been able to transfer that infomation into the GUI that can > mount the Windo

[CentOS] Firefox spelling checker

2010-09-16 Thread Frank Cox
I just noticed that since the last updates, Firefox no longer does the automatic spelling checking thing in text boxes. I'm sure that it used to work and I'm not sure exactly when it stopped. I just tried it on two different up-to-date Centos 5 machines with the same results. "Check my spelling

[CentOS] iptables

2010-09-16 Thread alexus
I'm trying to do some simple tcp port forwarding [r...@wcmisdlin02 ~]# cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 0 [r...@wcmisdlin02 ~]# /bin/echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [r...@wcmisdlin02 ~]# cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 1 [r...@wcmisdlin02 ~]# iptables --list Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) t

Re: [CentOS] Can anyone suggest a decent backup system?

2010-09-16 Thread John R Pierce
On 09/16/10 1:34 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote: > Can anyone suggest a simple backup package for us? Essentially a single > server, full backup to tape every day. We don't need tape management as > we're fully capable of reading the written label on the tape ourselves. > > u, reading your requireme

Re: [CentOS] iptables

2010-09-16 Thread m . roth
alexus wrote: > I'm trying to do some simple tcp port forwarding > > [r...@wcmisdlin02 ~]# iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING --proto > tcp --dport 80 --jump DNAT --to 10.52.208.223:80 ^^^ > [r...@wcmisdlin02 ~]# curl --verbose http://10.52.208.221:80

Re: [CentOS] iptables

2010-09-16 Thread alexus
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:18 PM, wrote: > alexus wrote: >> I'm trying to do some simple tcp port forwarding >> > >> [r...@wcmisdlin02 ~]# iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING --proto >> tcp --dport 80 --jump DNAT --to 10.52.208.223:80 >                                      ^^^ >> [r...@wcmi

Re: [CentOS] Firefox spelling checker

2010-09-16 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
On Thursday 16 September 2010 15:59, Frank Cox wrote: > I just noticed that since the last updates, Firefox no longer does > the automatic spelling checking thing in text boxes. > > I'm sure that it used to work and I'm not sure exactly when it > stopped. > > I just tried it on two different up-to

Re: [CentOS] Firefox spelling checker

2010-09-16 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 21:54 -0400, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > Check under Tools > Add-ons > Extensions. If the dictionary you need > there? (If not, download it at > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/language-tools/) Is it > deactivated? That did it. Oddly enough, I'm pretty sure I nev