Re: [CentOS] Installing an SSL Cert

2010-01-28 Thread Michael A. Peters
Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Ml wrote on Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:38:00 -0800: > >> Where can I find instructions on how to install the certificate? > > Exactly where you buy it. Please don't abuse this list as support for > everything. > > Kai > In fairness, when I bought my cert from godaddy, their lin

Re: [CentOS] Advanced fsck?

2010-01-28 Thread Cristian Mastan
fsck -fvy will correct most of the problems without asking everytime to accept the changes to fs. fsck -cvy will correct and test for bad sectors too (looong time run). CM From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of hadi motamedi Sent: Thursday, January 28

Re: [CentOS] Full Virtualized DomU won't boot

2010-01-28 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 07:21:54PM -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: > Hi, I use Centos 5.4 x86_64 > > kernel used is 2.6.18-164.11.1.el5xen > > I have a physical machine running Debian Etch (32 bit) and Debian > Lenny and I virtualized the first one as follows: > > *Created a HVM DomU with Virt-Manag

[CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Hi, I would like to get some input from people who have used these options for mounting a remote server to a local server. Basically, I need to replicate / backup data from one server to another, but over the internet (i.e. insecure channels) Currently we have been mounting an SMB share over SSH,

[CentOS] Crash during yum update

2010-01-28 Thread Kwan Lowe
Hello all: I was getting a reproducible crash during an update of a xen system. The problem went away after I set SELinux to permissive, but the fact that it crashed was alarming (first one on a non-dev system that I've had in over a year). I attempted the update earlier but it crashed at the sam

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > Hi, > > NOW, the question is: Which protocol would be best for this? I can only > think of SMB, NFS & iSCSI Just an innocent and possibly OOB suggestion -- what you think of sshfs Regards Rajagopal _

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan < raju.rajs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Greetings, > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > Hi, > > > > NOW, the question is: Which protocol would be best for this? I can only > > think of SMB, NFS & iSCSI > > > Just an innocent

[CentOS] /usr/sbin/usermod -p doesn't update MAX_DAYS - workaround?

2010-01-28 Thread Sean Carolan
I have a large group of Linux servers that I inherited from a previous administrator. Unfortunately there is no single sign-on configured so each server has it's own local accounts with local authentication. Normally I use ssh keys and a handy shell script to change passwords on all these machines

Re: [CentOS] /usr/sbin/usermod -p doesn't update MAX_DAYS - workaround?

2010-01-28 Thread Mogens Kjaer
On 01/28/2010 02:20 PM, Sean Carolan wrote: ... > In the long run we're going to try and get some kind of centralized > authentication, but in the meantime does anyone have an idea for a > workaround? If your script change passwords via ssh and usermod, why not at the same time do a chage -d numbe

Re: [CentOS] xterm clones on VNC problem

2010-01-28 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
Thanks for the reply. I suppose I should really bite the bullet one of these days and mess around with nxclient. But due to the pre-holiday work crunch these couple of weeks, I'll have to live with those clones for now. On 1/28/10, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 1/27/2010 11:36 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin w

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to get some input from people who have used these options > for mounting a remote server to a local server. Basically, I need to > replicate / backup data from one server to another, but over the > internet (i.e. insecure channels) > > Currently we h

Re: [CentOS] xterm clones on VNC problem

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: > Thanks for the reply. I suppose I should really bite the bullet one of > these days and mess around with nxclient. But due to the pre-holiday > work crunch these couple of weeks, I'll have to live with those clones > for now. Freenx is packaged, so there is nothing to i

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread nate
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to get some input from people who have used these options for > mounting a remote server to a local server. Basically, I need to replicate / > backup data from one server to another, but over the internet (i.e. insecure > channels) NFS and CIFS and iSCSI a

[CentOS] How to map ata#.# numbers to /dev/sd numbers?

2010-01-28 Thread Stephen Harris
On my C5 machine (a Dell XPS420) I have a 500Gb disk on the internal SATA controller. I also have a SiI3132 dual-port multi-device eSATA card. This is connected to an external SATA array of disks. Now occasionally I see something like this in my logs ata7.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0

[CentOS] Starting a java applet from the desktop

2010-01-28 Thread James B. Byrne
CentOS-5.4 i86_64 I have a calculator applet on my desktop (superbcalc.jar). When I double click on it I get no response. If I right click and select open with java I get no response. If I open a terminal window and cd to Desktop and type java -jar superbcalc.jar then the applet opens. Does an

Re: [CentOS] Centos/Linux Disk Caching, might be OT in some ways

2010-01-28 Thread Ross Walker
On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: > >> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but on top of LVM on CentOS/RHEL >> the best assurance your going to get is fsync(), meaning the data is >> out of the kernel, but probably still on disk write cache. Make sure >> you have a good UPS se

[CentOS] question on virtual desktops

2010-01-28 Thread Jerry Geis
centos has the 4 virtual desktops by default. if I have a terminal window open in desktop 1 is there a command I can execute (type in) to switch to desktop 2? The mouse will not be attached at this point and I want to switch views using a command line. How do I do that? Thanks, Jerry ___

Re: [CentOS] question on virtual desktops

2010-01-28 Thread Scot P. Floess
Which window manager are you using? On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Jerry Geis wrote: > centos has the 4 virtual desktops by default. > if I have a terminal window open in desktop 1 > is there a command I can execute (type in) to switch to desktop 2? > > The mouse will not be attached at this point and I w

Re: [CentOS] /usr/sbin/usermod -p doesn't update MAX_DAYS - workaround?

2010-01-28 Thread Sean Carolan
> If your script change passwords via ssh and usermod, why not at > the same time do a chage -d number username? Thank you, I may end up doing it this way at least until we can configure AD or LDAP authentication. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.or

Re: [CentOS] How to map ata#.# numbers to /dev/sd numbers?

2010-01-28 Thread Toby Bluhm
Stephen Harris wrote: > On my C5 machine (a Dell XPS420) I have a 500Gb disk on the internal SATA > controller. > > I also have a SiI3132 dual-port multi-device eSATA card. This is connected > to an external SATA array of disks. > > Now occasionally I see something like this in my logs > > ata7

Re: [CentOS] question on virtual desktops

2010-01-28 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Geis wrote: > centos has the 4 virtual desktops by default. > if I have a terminal window open in desktop 1 > is there a command I can execute (type in) to switch to desktop 2? > > The mouse will not be attached at this point and I want to switch views > usin

Re: [CentOS] Starting a java applet from the desktop

2010-01-28 Thread m . roth
> CentOS-5.4 i86_64 > > I have a calculator applet on my desktop (superbcalc.jar). When I > double click on it I get no response. If I right click and select > open with java I get no response. If I open a terminal window and > cd to Desktop and type java -jar superbcalc.jar then the applet > op

Re: [CentOS] Starting a java applet from the desktop

2010-01-28 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:46 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: > CentOS-5.4 i86_64 > > I have a calculator applet on my desktop (superbcalc.jar).  When I > double click on it I get no response.  If I right click and select > open with java I get no response.  If I open a terminal window and > cd to Deskto

Re: [CentOS] How to map ata#.# numbers to /dev/sd numbers?

2010-01-28 Thread Stephen Harris
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:01:17AM -0500, Toby Bluhm wrote: > Stephen Harris wrote: > > ata7.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 a ction 0x0 > > ata7.01: irq_stat 0x00060002, device error via D 2H FIS > > ata7.01: cmd 25/00:08:47:1c:92/00:00:6c:00:00/e0 tag 0 dma 4096 in > > res 51/4

Re: [CentOS] Centos/Linux Disk Caching, might be OT in some ways

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/28/2010 8:48 AM, Ross Walker wrote: > >>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but on top of LVM on CentOS/RHEL >>> the best assurance your going to get is fsync(), meaning the data is >>> out of the kernel, but probably still on disk write cache. Make sure >>> you have a good UPS setup, so the

Re: [CentOS] Centos/Linux Disk Caching, might be OT in some ways

2010-01-28 Thread nate
Les Mikesell wrote: > I wonder if the generally-horrible handling that linux has always done > for fsync() is the real reason Oracle spun off their own distro? Do > they get it better? Anyone in their right mind with Oracle would be using ASM and direct I/O so I don't think it was related. http

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 64-bit: Java web browser plugin for 64-bit FireFox?

2010-01-28 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:17:02 -0800 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Robert Heller wrote: > > Does there exist *anywhere* a Java web browser plugin for 64-bit > > FireFox?  The SUN 1.6 JDK (jdk-6u18-linux-amd64.rpm) does NOT > > include the Java web browser plugi

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 64-bit: Java web browser plugin for 64-bit FireFox?

2010-01-28 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:17:02 -0800 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Robert Heller wrote: > > Does there exist *anywhere* a Java web browser plugin for 64-bit > > FireFox?  The SUN 1.6 JDK (jdk-6u18-linux-amd64.rpm) does NOT > > include the Java web browser plugi

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 64-bit: Java web browser plugin for 64-bit FireFox?

2010-01-28 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:44:52 -0500 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > > Does there exist *anywhere* a Java web browser plugin for 64-bit > > FireFox? The SUN 1.6 JDK (jdk-6u18-linux-amd64.rpm) does NOT > > include the Java web browser plugin library. > > java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-1.2.b09.el5.x86_

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 64-bit: Java web browser plugin for 64-bit FireFox?

2010-01-28 Thread Scot P. Floess
No, that isn't true at all... Under both Fedora 12 and RHEL 5.4 I am using the 64 bit JDK... To get the Java plugin working, all I had to do -with the Sun JDK- was cd /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins ln -s /usr/java/latest/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so And restart Firefox... Of course, in this instanc

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 64-bit: Java web browser plugin for 64-bit FireFox?

2010-01-28 Thread Ned Slider
This is all documented on the Wiki for anyone who cares to search: http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/PluginsFor64BitFirefox [rhetorical] Why does this mailing list insist on reinventing the wheel rather than perform a simple search of existing documentation first? ___

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 64-bit: Java web browser plugin for 64-bit FireFox?

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/28/2010 11:14 AM, Ned Slider wrote: > This is all documented on the Wiki for anyone who cares to search: > > http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/PluginsFor64BitFirefox > > [rhetorical] Why does this mailing list insist on reinventing the wheel > rather than perform a simple search of existing

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 64-bit: Java web browser plugin for 64-bit FireFox?

2010-01-28 Thread Rob Kampen
Les Mikesell wrote: On 1/28/2010 11:14 AM, Ned Slider wrote: This is all documented on the Wiki for anyone who cares to search: http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/PluginsFor64BitFirefox [rhetorical] Why does this mailing list insist on reinventing the wheel rather than perform a simple se

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 64-bit: Java web browser plugin for 64-bit FireFox?

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/28/2010 11:53 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: > >>> This is all documented on the Wiki for anyone who cares to search: >>> >>> http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/PluginsFor64BitFirefox >>> >>> [rhetorical] Why does this mailing list insist on reinventing the wheel >>> rather than perform a simple sear

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 64-bit: Java web browser plugin for 64-bit FireFox?

2010-01-28 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:35:35 -0600 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > On 1/28/2010 11:14 AM, Ned Slider wrote: > > This is all documented on the Wiki for anyone who cares to search: > > > > http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/PluginsFor64BitFirefox > > > > [rhetorical] Why does this mailing list i

Re: [CentOS] Starting a java applet from the desktop

2010-01-28 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thu, January 28, 2010 10:17, Kwan Lowe wrote: > > Easiest thing is to just create a shortcut that calls the jar > properly. The procedure depends on the desktop, but for the most > part it's just a rightclick on the desktop, then on the "link" > field you'd put in your command and the path to

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 64-bit: Java web browser plugin for 64-bit FireFox?

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/28/2010 12:58 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > >>> http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/PluginsFor64BitFirefox >>> >>> [rhetorical] Why does this mailing list insist on reinventing the wheel >>> rather than perform a simple search of existing documentation first? >> >> You sort-of expect end users t

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 64-bit: Java web browser plugin for 64-bit FireFox?

2010-01-28 Thread Rob Kampen
Les Mikesell wrote: On 1/28/2010 12:58 PM, Robert Heller wrote: http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/PluginsFor64BitFirefox [rhetorical] Why does this mailing list insist on reinventing the wheel rather than perform a simple search of existing documentation first? You sort-of expec

Re: [CentOS] How to map ata#.# numbers to /dev/sd numbers?

2010-01-28 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Thursday 28 January 2010, Stephen Harris wrote: ... > Now occasionally I see something like this in my logs > > ata7.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 a ction 0x0 ... > How do I tell what disk this is complaining about? Is there a way > to determine what ata7.01 maps to in terms of /dev

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Anytime someone mentions backups, I have a knee-jerk reaction to mention > backuppc because it is simple and will likely do anything you need. Docs > are > here: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ It is packaged in epel. It can use > rsync > (with/without ssh), smb, or tar for the backup transport

Re: [CentOS] How to map ata#.# numbers to /dev/sd numbers?

2010-01-28 Thread m . roth
> On Thursday 28 January 2010, Stephen Harris wrote: > ... >> Now occasionally I see something like this in my logs >> >> ata7.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 a ction 0x0 > ... >> How do I tell what disk this is complaining about? Is there a way >> to determine what ata7.01 maps to in te

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:04 PM, nate wrote: > Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like to get some input from people who have used these options > for > > mounting a remote server to a local server. Basically, I need to > replicate / > > backup data from one server to another, but over th

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/28/2010 3:01 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > > > > Anytime someone mentions backups, I have a knee-jerk reaction to mention > backuppc because it is simple and will likely do anything you need. > Docs are > here: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ It is packaged in epel. It > c

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/28/2010 3:13 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > We used to do it like that - rsync over SSH, but the amount of support > calls we got with this solution was just too much. > > So, instead we mounted the backup volumes on the servers, and the end > users (most of them being developers & graphic designe

[CentOS] Skype and problem with ALSA mixer driver?

2010-01-28 Thread Andrew
Having used skype successfully in the past with previous CentOS versions, I haven't yet been able to get it working fully with CentOS 5.3 - the playback sound works OK but I can't get the mic working. I previously used the skype version installed with yum from the skype repo but thought maybe this

Re: [CentOS] How to map ata#.# numbers to /dev/sd numbers?

2010-01-28 Thread Stephen Harris
[ Sorry to merge messages; I appear to have lost Peter's post, so I'm replying to Peter and Mark in the same message ] Peter Kjellstrom wrote: > > On Thursday 28 January 2010, Stephen Harris wrote: > >> to determine what ata7.01 maps to in terms of /dev/sd# values? > > This seems quite hard to do

[CentOS] Adobe Acrobat Reader 9.3 - slightly OT

2010-01-28 Thread MHR
I've noticed recently that the latest version of Adobe's Acrobat Reader (9.3) has a really annoying tendency to stop for 30-60 seconds shortly after it starts up to read/display a PDF file. I don't see this on my Windows copies, just on CentOS. Anyone know what's up with that? Thanks. mhr _

Re: [CentOS] How to map ata#.# numbers to /dev/sd numbers?

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/28/2010 4:05 PM, Stephen Harris wrote: > > As can be seen, different parts of detection appear to be interleaved > (floppy detection message, sdb detection message - disk in a USB disk > enclosure!) so I can't seem to rely on ordering of messages in dmesg to > accurately determine which device

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > > > This is probably getting repetitive, but backuppc provides a web > interface where server 'owners' can browse their own backups, select > what they want, and click a button to restore or download to their > desktop. It's not part of the

[CentOS] bind a web root sub-folder to /usr/share/xxyy

2010-01-28 Thread Mr. X
This is OT, but what is the RH/Centos best practice for this scenario. I have a web root under control of user webmaster. In /etc/fstab --- snip -- /var/www/dev /home/webmaster/www_devnonebind00 - unsnip -- ls -al /var/www/dev/ drwxr-xr-x 10 webmaster webm

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/28/2010 4:30 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > ok, forget about rsync. forget about which backup script is better, and > which isn't. forget about how I get the data onto the order server. I > don't care about backups, or rsync, or backuppc or bacula or amanda, or > R1soft > > let's keep the question

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread John R Pierce
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > let's keep the question simple. WHICH filesystem would be best for > this type of operation? SMB, NFS, or iSCSI? ISCSI is not a file system, its purely a block device. works best over fast low latency dedicated links. I think NFS would be better for unix to unix than SMB.

Re: [CentOS] Adobe Acrobat Reader 9.3 - slightly OT

2010-01-28 Thread Ryan Pugatch
MHR wrote: > I've noticed recently that the latest version of Adobe's Acrobat > Reader (9.3) has a really annoying tendency to stop for 30-60 seconds > shortly after it starts up to read/display a PDF file. I don't see > this on my Windows copies, just on CentOS. > > Anyone know what's up with th

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread nate
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > let's keep the question simple. WHICH filesystem would be best for this type > of operation? SMB, NFS, or iSCSI? none nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread nate
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > let's keep the question simple. WHICH filesystem would be best for this type > of operation? SMB, NFS, or iSCSI? none nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 1:05 AM, nate wrote: > Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > > let's keep the question simple. WHICH filesystem would be best for this > type > > of operation? SMB, NFS, or iSCSI? > > none > > nate > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread nate
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > nate, why not? Is it simply unavoidable at all costs to mount on system on > another, over a WAN? That's all I really want todo If what you have now works, stick with it.. in general network file systems are very latency sensitive. CIFS might work best *if* your using a WAN

Re: [CentOS] Skype and problem with ALSA mixer driver?

2010-01-28 Thread Ned Slider
Andrew wrote: > Having used skype successfully in the past with previous CentOS > versions, I haven't yet been able to get it working fully with CentOS > 5.3 - the playback sound works OK but I can't get the mic working. I > previously used the skype version installed with yum from the skype repo >

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 1:18 AM, nate wrote: > Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > > nate, why not? Is it simply unavoidable at all costs to mount on system > on > > another, over a WAN? That's all I really want todo > > If what you have now works, stick with it.. in general network > file systems are very la

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/28/2010 5:13 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > > nate, why not? Is it simply unavoidable at all costs to mount on system > on another, over a WAN? That's all I really want todo You are introducing unpredictable delays and possible retries/disconnects into kernel layers that aren't very well prepare

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/28/2010 5:23 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > So, is there any benefit in using NFS over SMB in this case? The CIFS > mounts can't be unmounted without a reboot, so they build-up a pool of > mounts to the same server which cause extra latency I don't understand either of not being able to unmount a

Re: [CentOS] Centos/Linux Disk Caching, might be OT in some ways

2010-01-28 Thread Ross Walker
On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:37 AM, "nate" wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > >> I wonder if the generally-horrible handling that linux has always >> done >> for fsync() is the real reason Oracle spun off their own distro? Do >> they get it better? > > Anyone in their right mind with Oracle would be usi

Re: [CentOS] Centos/Linux Disk Caching, might be OT in some ways

2010-01-28 Thread nate
Ross Walker wrote: > Even directio by itself won't do the trick, the OS needs to make sure > the disk drives empties it's write cache and currently barriers are > the only way to make sure of that. Well I guess by the same token nobody in their right mind would run an Oracle DB without a battery

Re: [CentOS] Centos/Linux Disk Caching, might be OT in some ways

2010-01-28 Thread Ross Walker
On Jan 28, 2010, at 6:58 PM, "nate" wrote: > Ross Walker wrote: > >> Even directio by itself won't do the trick, the OS needs to make sure >> the disk drives empties it's write cache and currently barriers are >> the only way to make sure of that. > > Well I guess by the same token nobody in thei

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Ross Walker
On Jan 28, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 1:18 AM, nate wrote: Rudi Ahlers wrote: > nate, why not? Is it simply unavoidable at all costs to mount on system on > another, over a WAN? That's all I really want todo If what you have now works, stick with it.. i

Re: [CentOS] How to map ata#.# numbers to /dev/sd numbers?

2010-01-28 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:05:41 -0500 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > [ Sorry to merge messages; I appear to have lost Peter's post, so I'm > replying to Peter and Mark in the same message ] > > Peter Kjellstrom wrote: > > > On Thursday 28 January 2010, Stephen Harris wrote: > > >> to determine wh

Re: [CentOS] Centos/Linux Disk Caching, might be OT in some ways

2010-01-28 Thread Christopher Chan
> There are concerns that everyone's currently fast performing LVM file > systems will suddenly become doggish once barrier support is included > and in some cases it will be true. Using a separate SSD device as a > journal can help in some cases. > That's only if you are using ext3/ext4 and data

Re: [CentOS] Centos/Linux Disk Caching, might be OT in some ways

2010-01-28 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:48 PM, Ross Walker wrote: > > On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Christopher Chan > wrote: > >> >>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but on top of LVM on CentOS/RHEL >>> the best assurance your going to get is fsync(), meaning the data is >>> out of the kernel, but

Re: [CentOS] Centos/Linux Disk Caching, might be OT in some ways

2010-01-28 Thread Ross Walker
On Jan 28, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: > >> There are concerns that everyone's currently fast performing LVM file >> systems will suddenly become doggish once barrier support is included >> and in some cases it will be true. Using a separate SSD device as a >> journal can help in so

Re: [CentOS] Centos/Linux Disk Caching, might be OT in some ways

2010-01-28 Thread Ross Walker
On Jan 28, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:48 PM, Ross Walker wrote: >> >> On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Christopher >> Chan>> wrote: >> >>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but on top of LVM on CentOS/ RHEL the best assurance your g

Re: [CentOS] Installing an SSL Cert

2010-01-28 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, ML wrote: > I am considering buying this: > http://www.godaddy.com/Compare/gdcompare_ssl.aspx?isc=sslqgo003a > > Since I have a domain that will be collecting data and processing payments. > > Where can I find instructions on how to install the certificate? > > Do

Re: [CentOS] Centos/Linux Disk Caching, might be OT in some ways

2010-01-28 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, January 29, 2010 08:50 AM, Ross Walker wrote: > On Jan 28, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Christopher Chan > wrote: > >> On Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:48 PM, Ross Walker wrote: >>> >>> On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Christopher >>> Chan>>> wrote: >>> > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news

[CentOS] Hibernating a laptop with the power button (Thinkpax X31) under CentOS 5.4

2010-01-28 Thread Robert Heller
I am having a weird problem trying to get hibernation to work when I press the power button on my Thinkpad X31 under CentOS 5.4. I've modified /etc/acpi/events/power.conf to contain: # ACPID config to power down machine if powerbutton is pressed, but only if # no gnome-power-manager is running e

Re: [CentOS] How to map ata#.# numbers to /dev/sd numbers?

2010-01-28 Thread Stephen Harris
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 07:18:36PM -0500, Robert Heller wrote: > At Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:05:41 -0500 CentOS mailing list > wrote: > > Yeah, but dmesg has two problems that I can think of > > 1) it may disappear if the number of kernel messages grows sufficiently > > large > > /var/log/dmesg Does

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Ross Walker wrote: > It's not easy backing up from behind the firewall. > > What about using a service that will backup the mobile clients to an > offsite repository that is accessible also from behind the firewall. > > I was pitched something not too long ago abo

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Dave
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > let's keep the question simple. WHICH filesystem would be best for this > type of operation? SMB, NFS, or iSCSI? > As someone said, these are all bad if your channel is insecure. Actually I know nothing about iSCSI, maybe it is more robu

Re: [CentOS] NFS vs SMb vs iSCSI for remote backup mounts

2010-01-28 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, January 29, 2010 03:49 PM, Dave wrote: > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Rudi Ahlers > wrote: > > > let's keep the question simple. WHICH filesystem would be best for > this type of operation? SMB, NFS, or iSCSI? > > > > As someone said, these are