Re: [CentOS] Caught between a Red Hat and a CentOS

2009-10-18 Thread Ian Blackwell
Ron Blizzard wrote: > I wonder if Red Hat has ever considered limited, paid support options > for CentOS? > I think that would be brand cannibalisation and self-defeating. To charge a lower support fee for the same product with a different name would surely only devalue their prime product and

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent

2009-10-18 Thread Niki Kovacs
nate a écrit : > Could someone describe to me what the rush is? I mean what drives > the need that you need to have it _right now_ ? Wenn wir zum Guten dieser Welt gelangen, Dann heißt das Beßre Trug und Wahn. (Goethe, Faust I) Roughly meaning: once we've found the good things in this world, t

Re: [CentOS] Totem needs plug-ins

2009-10-18 Thread Lucian @ lastdot.org
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 1:09 AM, ken wrote: > > Just tried to play a movie/DVD and Totem (what automatically popped up > when I inserted the DVD) said it needed plug-ins... it didn't say which > plug-ins.  The website listed in the help page no longer exists.  I have > four of the gstreamer packag

[CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
at the risk of picking at that scab a bit longer, i'm going to toss out a comment regarding people still waiting for the public availability of centos 5.4. here: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-October/083743.html we read: "The last status (from twitter) is 2 days old with th

Re: [CentOS] Totem needs plug-ins

2009-10-18 Thread Niki Kovacs
ken a écrit : > Just tried to play a movie/DVD and Totem (what automatically popped up > when I inserted the DVD) said it needed plug-ins... it didn't say which > plug-ins. The website listed in the help page no longer exists. I have > four of the gstreamer packages and libdvdcss installed, but I

Re: [CentOS] Caught between a Red Hat and a CentOS

2009-10-18 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Ian Blackwell wrote: > > Ron Blizzard wrote: >> I wonder if Red Hat has ever considered limited, paid support options >> for CentOS? >> > I think that would be brand cannibalisation and self-defeating.  To > charge a lower support fee for the same product with a di

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >  again, whether people are being paid to do any of this work is not > relevant.  it's important, from the perspective of reputation, that > everyone see the centos project as being efficiently and competently > run, and making what *appea

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
amusingly, only 41 minutes ago, this from centos twitter: "we ran into a few issues on internal centos.org machines - all resolved now :) we should start seeding to external mirrors shortly" and *that's* what i was talking about -- we just want to be kept informed. thanks. rday --

Re: [CentOS] Caught between a Red Hat and a CentOS

2009-10-18 Thread Kwan Lowe
> I'm pretty sure most corporations will continue to pay to use Red Hat. > It's pretty tough to go the head of IT and tell them you want to use > an OS without a corporate support license. Support is a security > blanket, if nothing else -- and it's a place to lay blame if something > goes wrong. (

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Ian Murray
> Here's the way I'm going to take care of the "problem." Figure eight > weeks out for CentOS from the time Red Hat is released. If it gets > done quicker than that, I've got a bonus.! ...and ignore any "announcements" in the meantime, as they may be red-herrings? Take a "I'll believe it when I

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Jim Wildman
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > at the risk of picking at that scab a bit longer, i'm going to toss > out a comment regarding people still waiting for the public > availability of centos 5.4. > > here: > > http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-October/083743.html About

[CentOS] installing working skype possible???

2009-10-18 Thread ken
I easily installed and used skype on my previous linux distro on this same machine, but am having problems getting it to work on my relatively new centos 5.3. I downloaded three versions of skype from their website: the two fedora rpms wouldn't install, their error messages complaining that it ne

Re: [CentOS] Calling all Hackers from Big stan

2009-10-18 Thread ken
If you want to learn how to crack into a system, set up your network with at least two machines, one being the target. -- War is a failure of the imagination. --William Blake On 10/17/2009 06:49 PM Stan Reader wrote: > I want to learn to hack what do I need to do in order to start. >

Re: [CentOS] installing working skype possible???

2009-10-18 Thread Lucian @ lastdot.org
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM, ken wrote: > > I easily installed and used skype on my previous linux distro on this > same machine, but am having problems getting it to work on my relatively > new centos 5.3. > > I downloaded three versions of skype from their website: the two fedora > rpms woul

Re: [CentOS] Calling all Hackers from Big stan

2009-10-18 Thread Marko Vojinovic
> > I want to learn to hack what do I need to do in order to start. > > If you want to learn how to crack into a system, set up your network > with at least two machines, one being the target. After that go download and burn the latest version of BackTrack Linux, http://www.remote-exploit.org

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread CentOS List
>> >> at the risk of picking at that scab a bit longer, i'm going to toss >> out a comment regarding people still waiting for the public >> availability of centos 5.4. >> >> here: >> >> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-October/083743.html >> >About ten minutes after your email, I got

[CentOS] [OT] DHCP auth&auth software

2009-10-18 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Does anyone know about some free (as in beer, and maybe as in speech) software which would implement authentication and authorization of a user prior to issuing a valid dhcp lease? I imagine the following scenario: someone walks into my office building with a laptop (a colleague, a visitor, a

Re: [CentOS] [OT] DHCP auth&auth software

2009-10-18 Thread Jonathan Moore
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: ---8< > I imagine the following scenario: someone walks into my office building with a > laptop (a colleague, a visitor, a guest, whoever), and hooks up onto the local > net (wired or wireless). The server detects an unknown MAC address,

Re: [CentOS] Caught between a Red Hat and a CentOS

2009-10-18 Thread ken
On 10/18/2009 08:17 AM Kwan Lowe wrote: >> I'm pretty sure most corporations will continue to pay to use Red Hat. >> It's pretty tough to go the head of IT and tell them you want to use >> an OS without a corporate support license. Support is a security >> blanket, if nothing else -- and it's a pla

[CentOS] Is AMD rev F the same thing as socket F?

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Aggarwal
Hello: I am looking at the RHEL 5.4 virtualization guide. According to Chapter 17, if I want to use KVM on my machine, I need to check if it has the constant Time Stamp Counter by running this: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep constant_tsc When I do that on the server (Currently running CentOS 5.3), I

[CentOS] Confusion about scheduling tasks with crontab

2009-10-18 Thread Niki Kovacs
Hi, I have to setup a scheduled task on a server, and I just read through some crontab docs. Now I'm confused. It's not so much the syntax of the cron job to define (I got that), it's more... how do I get to define it? Use a text editor (vi or the likes) to edit /etc/crontab directly? Or creat

Re: [CentOS] Confusion about scheduling tasks with crontab

2009-10-18 Thread ne...
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 16:09, Niki Kovacs wrote: > Hi, > > I have to setup a scheduled task on a server, and I just read through > some crontab docs. Now I'm confused. It's not so much the syntax of the > cron job to define (I got that), it's more... how do I get to define it? > Use a text editor

Re: [CentOS] Confusion about scheduling tasks with crontab

2009-10-18 Thread Alan McKay
> how would I go about that? The thing is: I'd like to know an orthodox > way to go about this. crontab -e and then just put in your entry * 7 * * * /your/command -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael Pollan, author of "In Defense of Food" _

Re: [CentOS] Confusion about scheduling tasks with crontab

2009-10-18 Thread Niki Kovacs
ne... a écrit : > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 16:09, Niki Kovacs wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have to setup a scheduled task on a server, and I just read through >> some crontab docs. Now I'm confused. It's not so much the syntax of the >> cron job to define (I got that), it's more... how do I get to define

Re: [CentOS] Confusion about scheduling tasks with crontab

2009-10-18 Thread Brett Serkez
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:11 AM, ne... wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 16:09, Niki Kovacs wrote: > >> I have to setup a scheduled task on a server, and I just read through >> some crontab docs. Now I'm confused. It's not so much the syntax of the >> cron job to define (I got that), it's more...

Re: [CentOS] Is AMD rev F the same thing as socket F?

2009-10-18 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Neil Aggarwal wrote: > It then gives me instructions for AMD revision F CPUs. > I did a search and did not find anything that seems relevant > to revision F.  The only stuff I am finding is talking about > socket F. Is that the same things as a Socket F CPU or > s

Re: [CentOS] [OT] DHCP auth&auth software

2009-10-18 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 18 October 2009 15:18:29 Jonathan Moore wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > I imagine the following scenario: someone walks into my office building > > with a laptop (a colleague, a visitor, a guest, whoever), and hooks up > > onto the local net (wired or

Re: [CentOS] Confusion about scheduling tasks with crontab

2009-10-18 Thread Ron Loftin
On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 11:28 -0400, Brett Serkez wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:11 AM, ne... wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 16:09, Niki Kovacs wrote: > > > >> I have to setup a scheduled task on a server, and I just read through > >> some crontab docs. Now I'm confused. It's not so much

Re: [CentOS] Is AMD rev F the same thing as socket F?

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Aggarwal
Akemi: > http://www.chiplist.com/AMD_Athlon_64_processor/tree3f-section--2103-/ I have an Opteron. I don't see a similar listing for those. Do you? Thanks, Neil -- Neil Aggarwal, (281)846-8957, www.JAMMConsulting.com Will your e-commerce site go offline if you have a DB server failure,

[CentOS] Passenger Best Practice

2009-10-18 Thread Stephen Nelson-Smith
I want to move from running puppet under it's own web brick server, to using passenger. I'd like to get an idea of how folk are running passenger? Ideally I'd like to keep everything rpm based, so would need ruby enterprise rpms, and then the mod_rails / passenger plugin? How are you folk

Re: [CentOS] Is AMD rev F the same thing as socket F?

2009-10-18 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Neil Aggarwal wrote: > Akemi: > >> http://www.chiplist.com/AMD_Athlon_64_processor/tree3f-section--2103-/ > > I have an Opteron.  I don't see a similar listing for those. > Do you? > > Thanks, >        Neil I see some here: http://www.chiplist.com/new/processor_s

Re: [CentOS] Is AMD rev F the same thing as socket F?

2009-10-18 Thread Peter A
On Sunday 18 October 2009 10:53:07 Neil Aggarwal wrote: > It then gives me instructions for AMD revision F CPUs. > I did a search and did not find anything that seems relevant > to revision F. The only stuff I am finding is talking about > socket F. Is that the same things as a Socket F CPU or > s

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Drew
>> "Windows 7 coming soon!!!" >> no date.  no reason.  Just churn. > > Windows 7 will be out on the 22nd Oct 2009. Your local computer > Shop did not try hard enough to find this out? I think the store's aim was to generate a "Cool. When?" response from clients to draw them into the store so a sal

Re: [CentOS] Passenger Best Practice

2009-10-18 Thread Jake
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: > I want to move from running puppet under it's own web brick server, to > using passenger. > > I'd like to get an idea of how folk are  running passenger?  Ideally > I'd like to keep everything rpm based, so would need ruby enterprise

Re: [CentOS] Is AMD rev F the same thing as socket F?

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Aggarwal
Akemi: > http://www.chiplist.com/new/processor_specifications/ Well, according to CPU info, I have: vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 65 model name : Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2210 stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 1809.490 cache size :

Re: [CentOS] Passenger Best Practice

2009-10-18 Thread Stephen Nelson-Smith
Hi , > I used the guide found here > http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/UsingPassenger on a RHEL 5 > server with success. You'll see that most things are installed via yum > repositories except for rack and passenger, which are installed as > ruby gems. You'll probably find better answers fo

Re: [CentOS] Passenger Best Practice

2009-10-18 Thread Amos Shapira
I think you can best help the project and the CentOS community by submitting a working .spec file to rpmforge-suggest mailing list. Cheers, -Amos On 10/19/09, Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: > Hi > , >> I used the guide found here >> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/UsingPassenger on a RHE

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Miguel Medalha
I am burning the DVD ISO image to disk right now. It is available from some mirrors. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Tru Huynh
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 09:48:46PM +0100, Miguel Medalha wrote: > I am burning the DVD ISO image to disk right now. It is available from > some mirrors. which are mostly incomplete... maybe some isos are ok but even the centos.org machines are not yet in sync... I would strongly suggest that yo

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Miguel Medalha
The checksum files are also there. SHA and MD5. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Miguel Medalha
> I would strongly suggest that you wait for the actual announcements, but ymmv. > I noticed that the mirrors that don't have the images complete don't even allow you to enter the 5.4 directory. This particular one does and the checksum files check OK.

Re: [CentOS] installing working skype possible???

2009-10-18 Thread ken
On 10/18/2009 09:11 AM Lucian @ lastdot.org wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM, ken wrote: >> I easily installed and used skype on my previous linux distro on this >> same machine, but am having problems getting it to work on my relatively >> new centos 5.3. >> >> I downloaded three versions

Re: [CentOS] Confusion about scheduling tasks with crontab

2009-10-18 Thread ken
On 10/18/2009 11:13 AM Alan McKay wrote: >> how would I go about that? The thing is: I'd like to know an orthodox >> way to go about this. > > crontab -e > > and then just put in your entry > > * 7 * * * /your/command I think you meant: 0 7 * * * /your/command The asterisk will make the comma

[CentOS] For the CentOS team : The openais Nightmare. And some questions.

2009-10-18 Thread F M
Hello guys, I have some questions about how the CentOS choose and rebuild RH RPMS. First here is my w-e nightmare : I have a 4 nodes Xen cluster using GFS2 (on SAN) and the Cluster Suite. Everything is from the CentOS repo. I am not updating these computers very often. I am always waiting severa

Re: [CentOS] Confusion about scheduling tasks with crontab

2009-10-18 Thread Alan McKay
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM, ken wrote: >> * 7 * * * /your/command > > I think you meant: > > 0 7 * * * /your/command > > The asterisk will make the command run every minute during the seven > o'clock hour.  The OP wanted his script to run at 7:00 Hee, hee, yeah, good catch :-) If I were doi

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Ian Murray
Irrespective of the discussions about the release procedure and visibility, etc, I'd like to thank everyone that put effort into making the CentOS 5.4 release happen.. I know I won't be alone in wishing to express thanks. ___ CentOS mailing l

[CentOS] iptables - Forwarding with port translation thru an OpenVPN tunnel

2009-10-18 Thread Chuck Munro
Perhaps someone with a sharper brain than I can solve this little mystery. I've Googled until I'm blue in the face, read all TFM's I can find, and tried several iptables rule combinations but just can't get the following to work. Here's my challenge: I have a CentOS-5.3 "main" server with a sta

Re: [CentOS] For the CentOS team : The openais Nightmare. And some questions.

2009-10-18 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 3:20 PM, F M wrote: > But the question remains : why is this update is not on the repo ? And are > they others ? > > Tx for answering me and have a good week-end. it is Sunday 6PM and mine > finally starts ;-) You might want to look into this centos bug tracker: http:/

Re: [CentOS] iptables - Forwarding with port translation thru an OpenVPN tunnel

2009-10-18 Thread Barry Brimer
> I have a CentOS-5.3 "main" server with a static public IP address > running Apache, OpenVPN, and a bunch of other services. > > The primary IP address for the only NIC in this box is used by > Apache on standard ports 80 and 443. I have a secondary > static public IP address assigned to this sa

Re: [CentOS] Confusion about scheduling tasks with crontab

2009-10-18 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:15:06 -0400 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > On 10/18/2009 11:13 AM Alan McKay wrote: > >> how would I go about that? The thing is: I'd like to know an orthodox > >> way to go about this. > > > > crontab -e > > > > and then just put in your entry > > > > * 7 * * * /your/

Re: [CentOS] iptables - Forwarding with port translation thru an OpenVPN tunnel

2009-10-18 Thread Bazy
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Barry Brimer wrote: >> I have a CentOS-5.3 "main" server with a static public IP address >> running Apache, OpenVPN, and a bunch of other services. >> >> The primary IP address for the only NIC in this box is used by >> Apache on standard ports 80 and 443.   I have

Re: [CentOS] [OT] DHCP auth&auth software

2009-10-18 Thread Mathew S. McCarrell
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Sunday 18 October 2009 15:18:29 Jonathan Moore wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Marko Vojinovic > wrote: > > > I imagine the following scenario: someone walks into my office building > > > with a laptop (a colleague, a visi

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Aggarwal
>> I am burning the DVD ISO image to disk right now. It is available from >> some mirrors. >which are mostly incomplete... maybe some isos are ok but even the centos.org >machines are not yet in sync... >I would strongly suggest that you wait for the actual announcements, but ymmv. This leads me

Re: [CentOS] Confusion about scheduling tasks with crontab

2009-10-18 Thread Niki Kovacs
ken a écrit : > > I think you meant: > > 0 7 * * * /your/command > > The asterisk will make the command run every minute during the seven > o'clock hour. The OP wanted his script to run at 7:00 > > Yes? > Yes, of course. My mistake. ___ CentOS mail

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, Miguel Medalha wrote: > I am burning the DVD ISO image to disk right now. It is available > from some mirrors. i've checked a couple dozen random mirrors, and have yet to find it. i'm almost tempted to ask, "any idea on when 5.4 will be available?", but i just *know* that w

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, Miguel Medalha wrote: > > > I am burning the DVD ISO image to disk right now. It is available > > from some mirrors. > > i've checked a couple dozen random mirrors, and have yet to find > it. i'm almost tempted to ask, "any idea

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread CentOS List
> i've checked a couple dozen random mirrors, and have yet to find > it. i'm almost tempted to ask, "any idea on when 5.4 will be > available?", but i just *know* that would get me in trouble. If you had try harder and try them all, you should be able to find these mirrors with 5.4 in them. htt

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread John R. Dennison
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 02:06:58PM +0800, CentOS List wrote: > > If you had try harder and try them all, you should be able to find these > mirrors with 5.4 in them. > > http://centos.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/centos/5.4/ > http://mirror.highspeedweb.net/CentOS/5.4/ > http://mirror.sanctuaryh