Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread Brian Mathis
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Shawn Everett wrote: > Thanks to everyone for their comments so far. > > The "server" in question is a basic 2 node cluster connected to an MSA500. > > It runs a variety of applications including Oracle, Apache, Samba, and a > proprietary app built by another vendor

Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread Les Mikesell
Shawn Everett wrote: > Thanks to everyone for their comments so far. > > The "server" in question is a basic 2 node cluster connected to an MSA500. > > It runs a variety of applications including Oracle, Apache, Samba, and a > proprietary app built by another vendor. > > The hardware is monitore

Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread Timo Schoeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thus Brian Mathis spake: > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Shawn Everett wrote: >> Thanks to everyone for their comments so far. >> >> The "server" in question is a basic 2 node cluster connected to an MSA500. >> >> It runs a variety of applications i

Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread Alan McKay
> The better solution would be to make sure you are prepared for when > the hardware does fail.  Inform the client that you understand that > they don't want to upgrade the servers, and that hardware failure is > not a case of "if" but "when".  Lay out a plan to them describing what > would happen

Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread Giovanni P. Tirloni
On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Alan McKay wrote: >> The better solution would be to make sure you are prepared for when >> the hardware does fail. Inform the client that you understand that >> they don't want to upgrade the servers, and that hardware failure is >> not a case of "if" but "when". L

Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:14:13 -0300 Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote: > Can you get something like the average lifespan of the circuits in > hours ? I always tell people that a computer is like a light bulb -- you can't tell by looking at it how much life it has left in it. Just like a light bulb, eve

Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:14:13 -0300 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > > On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Alan McKay wrote: > > >> The better solution would be to make sure you are prepared for when > >> the hardware does fail. Inform the client that you understand that > >> they don't want to upgrad

Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread Alan McKay
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote: > Can you get something like the average lifespan of the circuits in > hours ? HDs and other components should have published "MTBF" - Mean Time Between Failure -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Mich

Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread Les Mikesell
Alan McKay wrote: > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Giovanni P. Tirloni > wrote: >> Can you get something like the average lifespan of the circuits in >> hours ? > > HDs and other components should have published "MTBF" - Mean Time > Between Failure But they are never realistic in terms of act

Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:44:54 -0500 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > Alan McKay wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Giovanni P. Tirloni > > wrote: > >> Can you get something like the average lifespan of the circuits in > >> hours ? > > > > HDs and other components should have published

Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread John R Pierce
Alan McKay wrote: > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Giovanni P. Tirloni > wrote: > >> Can you get something like the average lifespan of the circuits in >> hours ? >> > > HDs and other components should have published "MTBF" - Mean Time > Between Failure > which is just about meanin

Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread Tait Clarridge
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 14:08 -0400, Alan McKay wrote: > > The better solution would be to make sure you are prepared for when > > the hardware does fail. Inform the client that you understand that > > they don't want to upgrade the servers, and that hardware failure is > > not a case of "if" but "w

Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread Brian Mathis
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote: > > On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Alan McKay wrote: > >>> The better solution would be to make sure you are prepared for when >>> the hardware does fail.  Inform the client that you understand that >>> they don't want to upgrade the server

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2009-10-10 Thread ferwis
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Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure

2009-10-10 Thread John R Pierce
Brian Mathis wrote: > Also, when I say "describe what would happen", I'm not talking about > how a board might blow a capacitor, I'm talking about how you will > react and what the impact is on the business during that time double or triple your support contract rates for systems deemed past EOS

Re: [CentOS] xen guest system - install source - NOT

2009-10-10 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 05:00:58PM +0300, Jussi Hirvi wrote: > On 8.10.2009 16:14, Jussi Hirvi wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 01:54:47PM +0300, Jussi Hirvi wrote: > On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: > > > I am installing my first xen system (CentOS 5.3). The host sys

[CentOS] Rythmbox and MP3

2009-10-10 Thread Robert Spangler
Hello, Can anyone tell me how to get the 2 in the Subject line to work? I have read a lot about adding this or that repo but still no joy as usually deps are missing. :( Thnx -- Regards Robert Linux User #296285 http://counter.li.org ___ CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Rythmbox and MP3

2009-10-10 Thread Lucian @ lastdot.org
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Robert Spangler wrote: > Hello, > > Can anyone tell me how to get the 2 in the Subject line to work?  I have read > a lot about adding this or that repo but still no joy as usually deps are > missing. :( > > Thnx > > > -- > > Regards > Robert > > Linux User #296285