Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Christopher Chan
Sorin Srbu wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On >> > Behalf > >> Of Matt >> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:29 PM >> To: CentOS mailing list >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user >> >> Thats my thought

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Geoff Galitz
> > 1) Ubuntu really needs more frequent total updates (it is not a > long-term stable release). The Ubuntu system that was on the local > library's server was unable to get updates (apt-get would fail -- I > ended up manually downloading packages and installing by hand (using raw > dpkg command

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Christopher Chan >Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:40 AM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user > >> Not using, but I've tried it in a LAMP-configuratio

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Niki Kovacs
Geoff Galitz a écrit : > > Ubuntu has the LTS releases, which are long term stable releases. They are > supported for five years after release. > Ubuntu Long Term Support is three years for desktops and five for servers. In the last LTS version (8.04), half of the audio apps had no sound for a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Niki Kovacs
Christopher Chan a écrit : >> > Bah, sudo -i for the equivalent of su -. Or try this: $ sudo -s ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

[CentOS] Inquiry:Problem with nmap

2009-09-29 Thread hadi motamedi
Dear All Can you please do me favor and let me know how can I solve my problem with nmap , as described below : "My CentOS server can ping the network element , but when I try to scan its open ports to see which ones are open at now the nmap cannot distinguish them and returned as they are being fi

Re: [CentOS] Inquiry:Problem with nmap

2009-09-29 Thread Bastian Ballmann
Hi, turn off your firewall? Than nmap shows open instead of filtered ;) greets basti hadi motamedi schrieb: > Dear All > Can you please do me favor and let me know how can I solve my problem > with nmap , as described below : > "My CentOS server can ping the network element , but when I try to

Re: [CentOS] Inquiry:Problem with nmap

2009-09-29 Thread hadi motamedi
Thank you for your reply . But still it cannot get through : " #nmap -sS -p 20-80 172.18.0.1 Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -P0 Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 91 seconds " Can

Re: [CentOS] Stupid Question (Linux antivirus)

2009-09-29 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:08:38 -0500 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > > > Is there a real big need for having an anti-virus on linux? > > if so what are some good ones to use? There are no 'viruses' (in the MS-Windows sense) for Linux *in the wild*. There are rootkits and from time-to-time exp

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:21:08 +0200 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > > > > > 1) Ubuntu really needs more frequent total updates (it is not a > > long-term stable release). The Ubuntu system that was on the local > > library's server was unable to get updates (apt-get would fail -- I > > ended u

Re: [CentOS] Inquiry:Problem with nmap

2009-09-29 Thread Bastian Ballmann
hadi motamedi schrieb: > Thank you for your reply . But still it cannot get through : > " > #nmap -sS -p 20-80 172.18.0.1 > Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ > ) > Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping > probes, try -P0 I do

Re: [CentOS] Any known problems with kernel-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64 / x86_64 / 3ware?

2009-09-29 Thread mbneto
Hi, No unfortunately no messages at all. I get no errors in dmesg nor /var/log/messages. Regards. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:39 PM, David Tauriainen < david.tauriai...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have a server that is running centos 5.3 x86_64 that until last week > was > > running fine. With no

Re: [CentOS] Inquiry:Problem with nmap

2009-09-29 Thread hadi motamedi
Thank you for your reply . Sorry that I was not exact on my previous message . Actually , my CentOS host is @172.18.98.1 and the network element is @ 172.18.0.1 . To this end , my host can ping the network element but when I try to scan its ports to see which one is open the nmap cannot distinguish

Re: [CentOS] Any known problems with kernel-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64 / x86_64 / 3ware?

2009-09-29 Thread mbneto
Hi John, Yes I am running nfs4 (NFSD: Using /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery as the NFSv4 state recovery directory). I'll try to boot with the previous kernel but the bugs mentioned reports problems while using the nfs. In my case I get no error messages from nfs as I can mount/read/write from the nfscli

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Christopher Chan wrote: > >>> >>> Thats my thought as well. Ubuntu desktop and CentOS for servers. >>> Just wandering if anyone is using the 'Ubuntu Server Edition's'? They >>> seem appealing but CentOS is what I am used too on servers now. >>> Thought about loading it up on a box to just try th

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Sorin Srbu wrote: >> >> Thats my thought as well. Ubuntu desktop and CentOS for servers. >> Just wandering if anyone is using the 'Ubuntu Server Edition's'? They >> seem appealing but CentOS is what I am used too on servers now. >> Thought about loading it up on a box to just try though. > > Not

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Sorin Srbu wrote: > >> I there are too many updates, and sometimes they crash something. I >> remember while using Fedora 10, after disappointment with F9, after an >> update, the sound stopped to work. I didn't like the idea of Thunderbird >> beta in F 12. Also, the external drives are mounted usi

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/27/2009 02:57 PM, Drew wrote: > That's the rule of thumb I see applied to what goes in /srv. In a LAMP > box for example I'd expect to see the website(and site logs), database > files, and POP3/IMAP spools stored in srv directories. Machine > specific data like system logs and email processin

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/29/2009 09:21 AM, Geoff Galitz wrote: > Ubuntu has the LTS releases, which are long term stable releases. They are > supported for five years after release. you might want to look into exactly what is ubuntu-support and how that compares with what you get with CentOS. Its not nearly the sam

[CentOS] Dualboot CentOS and Windows

2009-09-29 Thread Frank . Brodbeck
Hi, I have to install CentOS on a spare partition of a laptop with Windows pre installed. Is there anything I have to watch out for? Couldn't find anything in the wiki or does the installer handle this well without me doing some magic, or so? TIA, Frank. ___

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread m . roth
> At Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:29:12 -0500 CentOS mailing list > wrote: > >> > CentOS as a desktop system (or laptop) is perfectly fine, *even for > non-techies*, which would most of the users at the local library. I > guess the only issue would be in terms of support for really new > hardware (which

Re: [CentOS] Dualboot CentOS and Windows

2009-09-29 Thread Frank Thommen
frank.brodb...@klingel.de wrote: > Hi, > > I have to install CentOS on a spare partition of a laptop with > Windows pre installed. Is there anything I have to watch out for? > Couldn't find anything in the wiki or does the installer handle this > well without me doing some magic, or so? The in

Re: [CentOS] Stupid Question (Linux antivirus)

2009-09-29 Thread Drew
> Will the software be used in a commercial environment?  If not, then you > could use AVG from Grisoft:- >    http://free.avg.com/download > I've used it for a couple of years now and haven't had any problems. > Come to think of it, it hasn't found any viruses either!?!?!  Perhaps > I've been luck

Re: [CentOS] Dualboot CentOS and Windows

2009-09-29 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Frank Thommen >Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:27 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dualboot CentOS and Windows > >> I have to install CentOS on a spare partition of a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Niki Kovacs
m.r...@5-cent.us a écrit : > I also have CentOS at home. There are quirks, though: for example, I tried > to run kaffeine last night, and it couldn't find libkaffeinepart.so. I > tried adding /opt/kde3/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH, to LOAD_LIB, and > even did an ldconfig, and it *still* can't find it (I

Re: [CentOS] Dualboot CentOS and Windows

2009-09-29 Thread cornel panceac
2009/9/29 Sorin Srbu > >-Original Message- > >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf > >Of Frank Thommen > >Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:27 PM > >To: CentOS mailing list > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dualboot CentOS and Windows > > > >> I have to

Re: [CentOS] Dualboot CentOS and Windows

2009-09-29 Thread Frank Thommen
> >> I have to install CentOS on a spare partition of a laptop with > >> Windows pre installed. Is there anything I have to watch out for? > >> Couldn't find anything in the wiki or does the installer handle this > >> well without me doing some magic, or so? > > > >Th

Re: [CentOS] Updating an AntiVirus trougth a proxy (ERROR)

2009-09-29 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi, 2009/9/28 Alberto García Gómez : > Here is my problem > > [r...@shannon CGPMcAfee]# ./updateDatFiles > CGPMcAfee DAT files update program version 2.2 > Local avvDAT version is 5726 > Connecting to 'update.nai.com' [72.247.238.178:80] via HTTP protocol... >  *** failed to connect: socket error

Re: [CentOS] Stupid Question (Linux antivirus)

2009-09-29 Thread Brian Mathis
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Eric Clark wrote: > Is there a real big need for having an anti-virus on linux? > > if so what are some good ones to use? > In many companies that have compliance requirements, all servers are required to have antivirus. The argument that "Linux servers don't ge

[CentOS] Antwort: Re: Dualboot CentOS and Windows

2009-09-29 Thread Frank . Brodbeck
Frank Thommen schrieb am 29.09.2009 16:11:05: > > > >> I have to install CentOS on a spare partition of a laptop with > > >> Windows pre installed. Is there anything I have to watch out for? > > >> Couldn't find anything in the wiki or does the installer handle this > > >>

Re: [CentOS] Dualboot CentOS and Windows

2009-09-29 Thread Phil Schaffner
frank.brodb...@klingel.de wrote on 09/29/2009 09:12 AM: > Hi, > > I have to install CentOS on a spare partition of a laptop with > Windows pre installed. Is there anything I have to watch out for? > Couldn't find anything in the wiki or does the installer handle this > well without me doing som

Re: [CentOS] Antispam with Postfix

2009-09-29 Thread Bowie Bailey
Ned Slider wrote: > Bowie Bailey wrote: > >> Joseph L. Casale wrote: >> >>> 2. I use backup mx's, my current solution probably could work in this >>> scenario but >>> the support mechanism behind it is *very* weak and I can't get a perfect >>> setup >>> working. Spam hits the primary for

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 09/27/2009 02:57 PM, Drew wrote: >> That's the rule of thumb I see applied to what goes in /srv. In a LAMP >> box for example I'd expect to see the website(and site logs), database >> files, and POP3/IMAP spools stored in srv directories. Machine >> specific data like sys

[CentOS] freenx disconnects?

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
My NX/freenx connections have recently started to drop more or less randomly after several hours. Reconnection works with everything still running. I don't think anything has changed other than CentOS updates. Is anyone else seeing this? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

[CentOS] Slow printing to HP jetdirect from cups

2009-09-29 Thread Bowie Bailey
I've googled for this and poked around linuxprinting.org, but couldn't find anything helpful. I have a CentOS 5 server with an HP LaserJet 4 attached via JetDirect with the hplip driver. The problem is that when I have multiple print jobs in the queue, there is a delay of about 15 seconds between

[CentOS] Script consumes memory

2009-09-29 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
I have the following script that when executed, consumes memory and makes the system inaccessible. All process are halted. First, I don't understand what is wrong with the script Secondly, I'm surprised that Linux allows this to run unchecked to the detriment of the entire system. SCRIPT --

Re: [CentOS] Slow printing to HP jetdirect from cups

2009-09-29 Thread Bo Lynch
On Tue, September 29, 2009 10:49 am, Bowie Bailey wrote: > I've googled for this and poked around linuxprinting.org, but couldn't > find anything helpful. > > I have a CentOS 5 server with an HP LaserJet 4 attached via JetDirect > with the hplip driver. The problem is that when I have multiple pri

Re: [CentOS] Slow printing to HP jetdirect from cups

2009-09-29 Thread Bowie Bailey
Bo Lynch wrote: > On Tue, September 29, 2009 10:49 am, Bowie Bailey wrote: > >> I've googled for this and poked around linuxprinting.org, but couldn't >> find anything helpful. >> >> I have a CentOS 5 server with an HP LaserJet 4 attached via JetDirect >> with the hplip driver. The problem is t

Re: [CentOS] Slow printing to HP jetdirect from cups

2009-09-29 Thread Bo Lynch
On Tue, September 29, 2009 11:05 am, Bowie Bailey wrote: > Bo Lynch wrote: >> On Tue, September 29, 2009 10:49 am, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> >>> I've googled for this and poked around linuxprinting.org, but couldn't >>> find anything helpful. >>> >>> I have a CentOS 5 server with an HP LaserJet 4 atta

Re: [CentOS] Script consumes memory

2009-09-29 Thread Alan Sparks
Perhaps I'm missing it, but where are your definitions of DIRNAME and BASENAME? Without them, you're probably re-executing the script in the bactick references. Basically a fork-bomb. -Alan Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: > I have the following script that when executed, consumes memory and > makes the

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread m . roth
> m.r...@5-cent.us a écrit : > >> I also have CentOS at home. There are quirks, though: for example, I >> tried to run kaffeine last night, and it couldn't find libkaffeinepart.so. >> I tried adding /opt/kde3/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH, to LOAD_LIB, >> and even did an ldconfig, and it *still* can't fin

Re: [CentOS] Script consumes memory

2009-09-29 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Good catchnot sure how I missed that! (Too many things going on. THANKS! Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76710

[CentOS] CentOS 5.3 LDAP problem.

2009-09-29 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
I currently have about eight servers running a mixture of CentOS x86_64 v5.2 and v5.3 but none with the very latest updates. They all obtain their authentication information over LDAP and to avoid the starting message bus hang problem[1], nscd is set to soft failure. However, yesterday I set up a

Re: [CentOS] Antispam with Postfix

2009-09-29 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>> Personally I'd just drop the secondary mx completely and let the sending >> smtp server queue the mail whenever you're offline. Makes life a lot >> simpler. >> > >I agree. That's why I started with "IF you have a secondary..." :) trust me, I also agree 100%, but users on sourceforge and other

Re: [CentOS] Slow printing to HP jetdirect from cups

2009-09-29 Thread Bowie Bailey
Bo Lynch wrote: > On Tue, September 29, 2009 11:05 am, Bowie Bailey wrote: > >> Bo Lynch wrote: >> >>> On Tue, September 29, 2009 10:49 am, Bowie Bailey wrote: >>> >>> I've googled for this and poked around linuxprinting.org, but couldn't find anything helpful. I

[CentOS] Mirror After?

2009-09-29 Thread ML
Hi All, If I put a 1TB HD in my server (because they are on sale this week), can I later Mirror to a second 1TB drive without destroying the data on the first? On Windows and OS X, I know I can't do this... Thoughts? -ML ___ CentOS mailing list Ce

Re: [CentOS] Script consumes memory

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: > I have the following script that when executed, consumes memory and > makes the system inaccessible. All process are halted. > > First, I don't understand what is wrong with the script > Secondly, I'm surprised that Linux allows this to run unchecked to the > detriment

Re: [CentOS] Script consumes memory

2009-09-29 Thread nate
Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: > I have the following script that when executed, consumes memory and > makes the system inaccessible. All process are halted. You can probably drastically simplify your script by using ncftpput http://www.ncftp.com/ncftp/doc/ncftpput.html nate ___

Re: [CentOS] Mirror After?

2009-09-29 Thread Rob Kampen
ML wrote: Hi All, If I put a 1TB HD in my server (because they are on sale this week), can I later Mirror to a second 1TB drive without destroying the data on the first? On Windows and OS X, I know I can't do this... Thoughts? -ML ___ CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Mirror After?

2009-09-29 Thread John R Pierce
ML wrote: > Hi All, > > If I put a 1TB HD in my server (because they are on sale this week), > can I later Mirror to a second 1TB drive without destroying the data > on the first? > if you set it up as a mdraid mirror without the mirror, yes. ___

Re: [CentOS] Script consumes memory

2009-09-29 Thread John R Pierce
nate wrote: > Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: > >> I have the following script that when executed, consumes memory and >> makes the system inaccessible. All process are halted. >> > > You can probably drastically simplify your script by using > ncftpput > > http://www.ncftp.com/ncftp/doc/ncftppu

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.3 LDAP problem.

2009-09-29 Thread Dan Burkland
I experienced the same problem and found a solution. In your /etc/ldap.conf file (which I had the ldap.conf in /etc/openldap symlinked to), add the following line to the bottom of the file: nss_initgroups_ignoreusers root,haldaemon,dbus,ldap,sshd (any other group that is locally stored and used

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
Niki Kovacs wrote: > Geoff Galitz a écrit : > > >> Ubuntu has the LTS releases, which are long term stable releases. They are >> supported for five years after release. >> >> > Ubuntu Long Term Support is three years for desktops and five for servers. > > In the last LTS version (8.04), hal

Re: [CentOS] Slow printing to HP jetdirect from cups

2009-09-29 Thread Peter l Jakobi
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:48:07AM -0400, Bowie Bailey wrote: > I set the printer type as raw and then restarted cups just to make sure > the change was active. No effect. Still have the delays. Avoid cups for a quick test: 2 ways: 1) get the lprng rpm and extract lpr and lpq to a directory,

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.3 LDAP problem.

2009-09-29 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 11:20 -0500, Dan Burkland wrote: > I experienced the same problem and found a solution. In your /etc/ldap.conf > file (which I had the ldap.conf in /etc/openldap symlinked to), add the > following line to the bottom of the file: > > nss_initgroups_ignoreusers root,haldaemon

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.3 LDAP problem.

2009-09-29 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
2009/9/29 Dan Burkland : > I experienced the same problem and found a solution. In your /etc/ldap.conf > file (which I had the ldap.conf in /etc/openldap symlinked to), add the > following line to the bottom of the file: Due to the ssh problems, I can't check the actual machine at the moment, bu

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.3 LDAP problem.

2009-09-29 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
2009/9/29 Craig White : > having these lines in /etc/ldap.conf has helped me a lot... > timelimit 30 > bind_timelimit 30 > bind_policy soft My timelimits are still at the default of 120. However, the machine was bounced for me this morning and is apparently still stuck on "Starting message bus".

Re: [CentOS] Script consumes memory

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
>> >>> I have the following script that when executed, consumes memory and >>> makes the system inaccessible. All process are halted. >>> >> You can probably drastically simplify your script by using >> ncftpput >> >> http://www.ncftp.com/ncftp/doc/ncftpput.html >> > > and simplify it

Re: [CentOS] Mirror After?

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
ML wrote: > > If I put a 1TB HD in my server (because they are on sale this week), > can I later Mirror to a second 1TB drive without destroying the data > on the first? > > On Windows and OS X, I know I can't do this... > > Thoughts? Partition the disk into one partition of type 'FD' (raid

Re: [CentOS] Mirror After?

2009-09-29 Thread Robert
ML wrote: > Hi All, > > If I put a 1TB HD in my server (because they are on sale this week), > can I later Mirror to a second 1TB drive without destroying the data > on the first? > > On Windows and OS X, I know I can't do this... > > Thoughts? > > -ML > Step by step instructions at http

Re: [CentOS] Slow printing to HP jetdirect from cups

2009-09-29 Thread Bowie Bailey
Peter l Jakobi wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:48:07AM -0400, Bowie Bailey wrote: > >> I set the printer type as raw and then restarted cups just to make sure >> the change was active. No effect. Still have the delays. >> > > Avoid cups for a quick test: > > 2 ways: > > 1) get the lp

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Drew
> Not likely...  Storage paths are all arbitrary and if a standard has to > make up a new location that breaks existing concepts they've already > done something wrong. Times change. What worked well on Unix 20-30 years ago isn't necessarily the best way of doing things today. Websites for example

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Florin Andrei
Matt wrote: > > Just wandering if anyone is using the 'Ubuntu Server Edition's'? On a whim, I installed it on my home mail/web/* server. It was due for an upgrade anyway. So far, so good. Running a boatload of services (low load though), no crashes, solid. The "Ubuntu experience" is the same.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Florin Andrei
Geoff Galitz wrote: > > Perhaps it is getting trendy to beat up on non-Centos distros here on the > Centos list? Well, it's the group bias. I keep an eye on a Kawasaki forum, and they have a knack for doing a lot of Suzuki bashing. I'm, like, "WTF, they're all awesome sportbikes!" :-) Same her

[CentOS] CentOS With Windows Networks

2009-09-29 Thread DTS Corp
Am pretty new to CentOS and linux. I am trying to be able to share network drives and connect to a windows workgroup with CentOS. Machines are as follows. Workgroup has been changed from WorkGroup or MSHome to my own setting All of the client machines are formatted with NTFS Windows XP Windows

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Florin Andrei
Karanbir Singh wrote: > > you might want to look into exactly what is ubuntu-support and how that > compares with what you get with CentOS. Its not nearly the same thing. > To an extent that LTS is mostly considered a nonstarter in most > very > small business. Specially where the client is in

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Drew wrote: >> Not likely... Storage paths are all arbitrary and if a standard has to >> make up a new location that breaks existing concepts they've already >> done something wrong. > > Times change. What worked well on Unix 20-30 years ago isn't > necessarily the best way of doing things today.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Max Hetrick
Florin Andrei wrote: > Well, it's the group bias. > > I keep an eye on a Kawasaki forum, and they have a knack for doing a lot > of Suzuki bashing. I'm, like, "WTF, they're all awesome sportbikes!" :-) > > Same here. In the end, Linux is the same, just different flavors for > different tastes.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Florin Andrei wrote: > Karanbir Singh wrote: >> you might want to look into exactly what is ubuntu-support and how that >> compares with what you get with CentOS. Its not nearly the same thing. >> To an extent that LTS is mostly considered a nonstarter in most > very >> small business. Specially

Re: [CentOS] Updating an AntiVirus trougth a proxy (ERROR)

2009-09-29 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 28.09.09 23:49, schrieb Alberto García Gómez: > Here is my problem > > [r...@shannon CGPMcAfee]# ./updateDatFiles > CGPMcAfee DAT files update program version 2.2 > Local avvDAT version is 5726 > Connecting to 'update.nai.com' [72.247.238.178:80] via HTTP protocol... > *** failed to connect: s

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Florin Andrei
Max Hetrick wrote: > > the zealots Nah, it's just the way the human mind works, according to its current blueprint. It can be pretty awesome in what it can do sometimes, but it does have obvious fundamental flaws too. You and I have biases too, but nobody is aware of their own. :) -- Florin

Re: [CentOS] CentOS With Windows Networks

2009-09-29 Thread Bowie Bailey
DTS Corp wrote: > Am pretty new to CentOS and linux. > > I am trying to be able to share network drives and connect to a windows > workgroup with CentOS. > > Machines are as follows. > > Workgroup has been changed from WorkGroup or MSHome to my own setting > > All of the client machines are formatt

Re: [CentOS] CentOS With Windows Networks

2009-09-29 Thread DTS Corp
What I am trying to do is allow filesharing from linux to windows and windows back to linux. Samba I think would work best for this, however I have no clue as to what I am doing at the moment with getting them to work. I just need a little pointing in the right direction. On Tue, 2009-09-29 at

Re: [CentOS] CentOS With Windows Networks

2009-09-29 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:30 AM, DTS Corp wrote: > What I am trying to do is allow filesharing from linux to windows and > windows back to linux. > > Samba I think would work best for this, however I have no clue as to > what I am doing at the moment with getting them to work. > > I just need a l

[CentOS] What is this

2009-09-29 Thread DTS Corp
I was working in terminal and then found this on the desktop when I do an ls [r...@dtslinux Desktop]# ls bar-003ada89db.desktop hadjaha-00c578ceaf.desktop bar-004892226f.desktop hammer-0011bbeb3d.desktop blah-0055ff1151.desktop hammer-00d190a421.desktop blah-009c014480.desktop ke

Re: [CentOS] CentOS With Windows Networks

2009-09-29 Thread Ryan Pugatch
Akemi Yagi wrote: > This CentOS wiki article will help: > > http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/WindowsShares > > Akemi And http://centos.org/docs/5/html/Deployment_Guide-en-US/ch-samba.html Ryan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Drew
The argument you're expressing, as I see it, is that there is really no difference whether or not the files are stored in /var or /srv because in the end they're bits on a disk so where in the file system they end up doesn't matter. /var was chosen years ago by Unix admins so why change it to /srv?

Re: [CentOS] CentOS With Windows Networks

2009-09-29 Thread John R Pierce
DTS Corp wrote: > What I am trying to do is allow filesharing from linux to windows and > windows back to linux. > may I suggest that a network of more than 1-2 computers should have a single file server that has all the shares, and all the other computers should connect to it, so all the sha

Re: [CentOS] What is this

2009-09-29 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:29:16 -0500 DTS Corp wrote: > I was working in terminal and then found this on the desktop when I do > an ls > > [r...@dtslinux Desktop]# ls > bar-003ada89db.desktop hadjaha-00c578ceaf.desktop Were you logging into X as root? That's generally a bad thing, and isn't n

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > Yes, keep in mind that it took many years for Red Hat to get it right > (or what they think is right) and when they did, they stopped > distributing the binaries for free.  Ubuntu should be getting pretty > close to having the support experi

Re: [CentOS] Stupid Question (Linux antivirus)

2009-09-29 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Drew wrote: > I'm sorry but stay as far away from them as you can. AVG 7 was great, > I used to recommend it all the time, but version 8 has become really > bloated and chews through resources like no-ones business. I installed > it on a dual-booted (XP/Debian) La

Re: [CentOS] Stupid Question (Linux antivirus)

2009-09-29 Thread John R Pierce
Ron Blizzard wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Drew wrote: > > >> I'm sorry but stay as far away from them as you can. AVG 7 was great, >> I used to recommend it all the time, but version 8 has become really >> bloated and chews through resources like no-ones business. I installed >> it

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Drew wrote: > The argument you're expressing, as I see it, is that there is really > no difference whether or not the files are stored in /var or /srv > because in the end they're bits on a disk so where in the file system > they end up doesn't matter. /var was chosen years ago by Unix admins > so

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Alan McKay
I've been generally unhappy with my CentOS desktop both at home and at work, when it comes to thinks like sound and video. I'd recommend going with Fedora Core, to be honest. Much as I love CentOS on my servers. -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael Po

Re: [CentOS] Stupid Question (Linux antivirus)

2009-09-29 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:17 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > someone suggested Avira Free last time I cleaned my wife's laptop (she > got a koobface virus via facebook with about 8 trojan sidekicks and some > kinda ddnsfilter too)... seems pretty good, and it found some bits of > the koobface I missed

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Alan McKay wrote: > I've been generally unhappy with my CentOS desktop both at home and at > work, when it comes to thinks like sound and video. > > I'd recommend going with Fedora Core, to be honest.   Much as I love > CentOS on my servers. I like stability over

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Ron Blizzard wrote: > >> I've been generally unhappy with my CentOS desktop both at home and at >> work, when it comes to thinks like sound and video. >> >> I'd recommend going with Fedora Core, to be honest. Much as I love >> CentOS on my servers. > > I like stability over "cutting edge," so C

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Alan McKay
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Ron Blizzard wrote: > I like stability over "cutting edge," so CentOS (with multimedia from > RPMForge) What are the details on MM from RPMForge? If I could get my MM working I'd be happy. I like stability too, which is why I use it on my servers. But for des

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Tait Clarridge
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 15:38 -0400, Alan McKay wrote: > I've been generally unhappy with my CentOS desktop both at home and at > work, when it comes to thinks like sound and video. > > I'd recommend going with Fedora Core, to be honest. Much as I love > CentOS on my servers. > > This is more a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Alan McKay
> I am not an Ubuntu basher, but I felt it was babying me a little too > much. Hmmm, maybe that's what I should put on my wife's laptop :-) I already know Linux very well - been a UNIX geek for over 20 years, and Linux geek for getting on 10 now. And I still get frustrated with how difficult it

[CentOS] Any ETA on 5.4?

2009-09-29 Thread John Plemons
I can wait, I just have a project coming up and am planning. I remember seeing a post a couple of weeks back that RedHat 5.4 was released and at that time a couple of weeks was thrown out for Centos 5.4 being released. Are we still on schedule? Thank you,, John Plemons <>

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Rob Kampen
Alan McKay wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Ron Blizzard wrote: I like stability over "cutting edge," so CentOS (with multimedia from RPMForge) What are the details on MM from RPMForge? If I could get my MM working I'd be happy. I like stability too, which is why I use it o

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Tait Clarridge
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 16:14 -0400, Alan McKay wrote: > > I am not an Ubuntu basher, but I felt it was babying me a little too > > much. > > Hmmm, maybe that's what I should put on my wife's laptop :-) > > I already know Linux very well - been a UNIX geek for over 20 years, > and Linux geek for ge

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Sorin Srbu wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf >> Of Matt >> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:29 PM >> To: CentOS mailing list >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user >> >> Thats my thought as well. Ubu

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Drew
> Not quite.  It is more a matter of a standard only being useful if > everyone does what it says.  Picking a new location that no one > currently uses is always the worst possible choice. So are revolutions but those seem to work well on occasion. :-) >> My argument is that those same Unix admi

[CentOS] Removing xorg stuff

2009-09-29 Thread Bob Hoffman
Starting to clean out my server. I use command line only. Even though I tried not to install the gnome and x, a lot of stuff did install anyway. In testing the removal process I find I cannot use yum remove due to losing to many programs due to dependency. Trying to remove via rpm -e is nigh imp

Re: [CentOS] Removing xorg stuff

2009-09-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Bob Hoffman wrote: > Starting to clean out my server. > I use command line only. > > Even though I tried not to install the gnome and x, a lot of stuff did > install anyway. > > In testing the removal process I find I cannot use yum remove due to losing > to many p

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Drew wrote: >> Not quite. It is more a matter of a standard only being useful if >> everyone does what it says. Picking a new location that no one >> currently uses is always the worst possible choice. > > So are revolutions but those seem to work well on occasion. :-) Only for the survivors.

Re: [CentOS] Any ETA on 5.4?

2009-09-29 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:23 PM, John Plemons wrote: > I can wait, I just have a project coming up and am planning.  I remember > seeing a post a couple of weeks back that RedHat 5.4 was released and at > that time a couple of weeks was thrown out for Centos 5.4 being released. >  Are we still on

[CentOS] Scan to email

2009-09-29 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Anyone done this w/ Linux before? Not having ever used this functionality, I can only speculate but I have been asked to setup an MFP such that when you scan to email, it hits a postfix instance which rewrites the email (so it can be typed short) and sends it on to our email-fax service. It seemed

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