[CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread Tom Brown
Hi I need some logic to work out a value for me - this value is _always_ the 3rd last field in a string seperated by '.' but the string could be 5 or 6 fields long, e.g foo.bar.VALUE.baz.lala foor.bar.gigi.VALUE.baz.lala I need to find VALUE - if this were python or something i could do it b

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread michael . kettel
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, ich bin ab dem 15.06.2009 wieder zurück im Büro. Bitte wenden Sie sich in dringenden Fällen an Simon Schillings [simon.schilli...@rm-solutions.de] Viele Grüße, Michael Kettel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org h

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread michael . kettel
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, ich bin ab dem 15.06.2009 wieder zurück im Büro. Bitte wenden Sie sich in dringenden Fällen an Simon Schillings [simon.schilli...@rm-solutions.de] Viele Grüße, Michael Kettel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org h

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread michael . kettel
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, ich bin ab dem 15.06.2009 wieder zurück im Büro. Bitte wenden Sie sich in dringenden Fällen an Simon Schillings [simon.schilli...@rm-solutions.de] Viele Grüße, Michael Kettel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org h

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread michael . kettel
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, ich bin ab dem 15.06.2009 wieder zurück im Büro. Bitte wenden Sie sich in dringenden Fällen an Simon Schillings [simon.schilli...@rm-solutions.de] Viele Grüße, Michael Kettel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org h

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread michael . kettel
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, ich bin ab dem 15.06.2009 wieder zurück im Büro. Bitte wenden Sie sich in dringenden Fällen an Simon Schillings [simon.schilli...@rm-solutions.de] Viele Grüße, Michael Kettel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org h

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread michael . kettel
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, ich bin ab dem 15.06.2009 wieder zurück im Büro. Bitte wenden Sie sich in dringenden Fällen an Simon Schillings [simon.schilli...@rm-solutions.de] Viele Grüße, Michael Kettel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org h

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread muhammad panji
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Tom Brown wrote: > Hi > > I need some logic to work out a value for me - this value is _always_ > the 3rd last field in a string seperated by '.' but the string could be > 5 or 6 fields long, e.g > > foo.bar.VALUE.baz.lala > > foor.bar.gigi.VALUE.baz.lala > > I need

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread michael . kettel
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Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread michael . kettel
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Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread michael . kettel
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Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread Ralph Angenendt
michael.ket...@rm-solutions.de wrote: > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > > ich bin ab dem 15.06.2009 wieder zurück im Büro. > Bitte wenden Sie sich in dringenden Fällen an Simon Schillings > [simon.schilli...@rm-solutions.de] > > Viele Grüße, > Michael Kettel You can resubcribe then, when you

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread James Bensley
Is there anyway you can tell which field it will be in (i.e. to use as a search clause, so "search for the field with X properties"?) Ultimately to get the data in the X'th field you are going to need either awk or sed (they can both easily do this, awk probably easier than sed) You need to work

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread michael . kettel
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Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread Jacques B.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Tom Brown wrote: > Hi > > I need some logic to work out a value for me - this value is _always_ > the 3rd last field in a string seperated by '.' but the string could be > 5 or 6 fields long, e.g > > foo.bar.VALUE.baz.lala > > foor.bar.gigi.VALUE.baz.lala > > I need

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread Alex S.
Hi. echo foo.bar.VALUE.baz.lala | awk -F. '{ print $(NF-2); }' -- Alex S. On 08.06.2009 13:29, Tom Brown wrote: > Hi > > I need some logic to work out a value for me - this value is _always_ > the 3rd last field in a string seperated by '.' but the string could be > 5 or 6 fields long, e.g

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread Tom Brown
> I am pretty sure there is a way in awk to figure out how many fields > you have, then take the total # of fields -3 each time to get the > third last one. Just heading out the door and off hand can't remember > how it would be done. > > i can do it in cheetah templating with set myloc = $g

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread Mogens Kjaer
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Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread Tom Brown
>echo foo.bar.VALUE.baz.lala | awk -F. '{ print $(NF-2); }' > > excellent - just what i needed thanks ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] RealTek 8168B (Rev 02) Issue

2009-06-08 Thread Tosh
Ben Mohilef wrote: > The 8168B (02) NIC works well except that it does not go into promiscuous > mode despite advertising itself in that mode after being so directed with > ifconfig. Unfortunately, the little box is destined to be an IDS monitor, so > that > function is essential. The board is an

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread Stephen Harris
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 10:56:09AM +0100, Tom Brown wrote: > > >echo foo.bar.VALUE.baz.lala | awk -F. '{ print $(NF-2); }' > > excellent - just what i needed awk is probably the most readable way. In traditional shell stuff like this used to be done in awk or sed awk -F. '{print $(NF-2)}

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread William L. Maltby
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 10:29 +0100, Tom Brown wrote: > Hi > > I need some logic to work out a value for me - this value is _always_ > the 3rd last field in a string seperated by '.' but the string could be > 5 or 6 fields long, e.g > > foo.bar.VALUE.baz.lala > > foor.bar.gigi.VALUE.baz.lala >

Re: [CentOS] script help - '3rd last field'

2009-06-08 Thread William L. Maltby
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 08:01 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote: > > 2. Inside that, use the set command to change the field separator to "." > Correction: IFS (the Interfield Separator) is just another variable. Just regular assignment will set it. -- Bill ___

Re: [CentOS] Random server reboot after update to CentOS 5.3

2009-06-08 Thread Peter Hopfgartner
Scott Silva wrote: > on 6-3-2009 2:27 AM Peter Hopfgartner spake the following: > >> Epilogue: >> >> I've tried to disable TSO (ethtool -K eth0 tso off), as was suggested on >> the poweredge list. This did not help. >> >> I've configured the machine to start with the 5.2 kernel in >> /boot/gru

Re: [CentOS] Question about dd (fill a hard disks' unused space with blanks)

2009-06-08 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
Kevin, On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Kevin Krieser wrote: > On Jun 7, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > In my case, I was hoping it would avoid the bad sector since the bad > sectors were in free space.  So the hope was that it would skip it. > Bad disks are a difficult case, and not a re

Re: [CentOS] Random server reboot after update to CentOS 5.3

2009-06-08 Thread Ross Walker
On Jun 8, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Peter Hopfgartner wrote: > Scott Silva wrote: >> on 6-3-2009 2:27 AM Peter Hopfgartner spake the following: >> >>> Epilogue: >>> >>> I've tried to disable TSO (ethtool -K eth0 tso off), as was >>> suggested on >>> the poweredge list. This did not help. >>> >>> I've c

Re: [CentOS] Server Build Example

2009-06-08 Thread gene . poole
> luc...@lastdot.org wrote: >> I'm no Oracle user/expert, but isn't Oracle DB 11g free (as in beer)? >> So my take is he's not paying anything. >> pie...@hogranch.com wrote: > AFAIK, its only free for your initial development work. As soon as you > deploy a production app, you have to get suppo

[CentOS] Centos 5.3 update do RHEL 5.3

2009-06-08 Thread Albert
Hi, If I now installed centos 5.3 and for 6 month I buying support from RHEL I can change 5.3 to rhel 5.3? It's possible? f...@ll ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] please help: Linux Kernel must be loaded before initrd

2009-06-08 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi, On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 07:34, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > title CentOS (2.6.18-128.1.10.el5xen) >     root (hd0,0) >     kernel /xen.gz-2.6.18-128.1.10.el5 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 > ide0=noprobe ide1=noprobe >     initrd /initrd-2.6.18-128.1.10.el5.img [...] > Can anyone see anyt

Re: [CentOS] Disabling IPv6 in CentOS 4.7

2009-06-08 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi, On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 21:50, Stephen Harris wrote: > But on reboot I still see ipv6 entries against the eth devices, ipv6 module > is still loaded, and sit0 tunnel is present. > What needs to be done to disable ipv6? I had this exact same issue on one of my machines, and I found out that the

Re: [CentOS] Basic setup for vsftpd ?

2009-06-08 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 09:21, Niki Kovacs wrote: > * only one user (user 'install' / pass 'install') userlist_enable = YES userlist_deny = NO userlist_file = /etc/vsftpd.user_list And then: # echo install >/etc/vsftpd.user_list That way only "install" will be able to log in to the FTP server.

Re: [CentOS] RealTek 8168B (Rev 02) Issue

2009-06-08 Thread Ben Mohilef
It is an D945GCLF2 with a 330. > use the r8169 driver That driver has issues with the counters, resolved with the ElRepo and Realtek drivers. Ifconfig shows no dropped packets with the latter two drivers. > website, it has been working fine, and I regularly check my tcpdump, > dmesg even state

Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.3 update do RHEL 5.3

2009-06-08 Thread Tom Diehl
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009, Albert wrote: > Hi, > > If I now installed centos 5.3 and for 6 month I buying support from RHEL >I can change 5.3 to rhel 5.3? It's possible? No. The versions for Centos are always higher then RHEL. Therefore unless the updates RHEL versions happen to be greater then the

Re: [CentOS] libwpd/libwpd-devel deps screwed?

2009-06-08 Thread Phil Schaffner
Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: > Oh, sorry, fixed it with > > rpm -iv --force libwpd-0.8.7-3.el5.i386.rpm > rpm -iv --nodeps libwpd-devel-0.8.7-3.el5.i386.rpm That's pretty ugly. :-) Is this perchance a multi-arch system? On x86_64: [r...@wx1 ~]# rpm -q libwpd-devel package libwpd-devel is not i

Re: [CentOS] Basic setup for vsftpd ?

2009-06-08 Thread Niki Kovacs
Filipe Brandenburger a écrit : > > userlist_enable = YES > userlist_deny = NO > userlist_file = /etc/vsftpd.user_list > > And then: > > # echo install >/etc/vsftpd.user_list > > That way only "install" will be able to log in to the FTP server. Thanks very much ! Niki

Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.3 update do RHEL 5.3

2009-06-08 Thread Phil Schaffner
Tom Diehl wrote: ... > No. The versions for Centos are always higher then RHEL. Therefore unless > the updates RHEL versions happen to be greater then the existing centos > versions you will never get the updates. I'd think that it would be technically possible to migrate a CentOS system to RHEL

[CentOS] Cannot get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work under NX (freenx)

2009-06-08 Thread Andrzej Szymanski
Hello, I'm trying to get the LD_LIBRARY_PATH set from .bash_profile (Centos 5.3 fully updated). This is a part of my .bash_profile: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/home/szyman/omnet/omnetpp-2.3p1/lib export R_HISTSIZE=20 Everything works fine under standard ssh login, but unde

Re: [CentOS] Cannot get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work under NX (freenx)

2009-06-08 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi, On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 14:38, Andrzej Szymanski wrote: > Everything works fine under standard ssh login, but under NX client the > LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable is missing (the R_HISTSIZE is exported properly). > > Any hints? This is probably not related to NX, but to the terminal emulator you are

Re: [CentOS] Cannot get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work under NX (freenx)

2009-06-08 Thread Andrzej Szymanski
Filipe Brandenburger wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 14:38, Andrzej Szymanski wrote: >> Everything works fine under standard ssh login, but under NX client the >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable is missing (the R_HISTSIZE is exported properly). >> >> Any hints? > > This is probably not related t

Re: [CentOS] Cannot get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work under NX (freenx)

2009-06-08 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 21:04 +0200, Andrzej Szymanski wrote: > Thanks for a fast resolution. > > However, moving this to .bashrc is a workaround. If I log in graphically > to the console the LD_LIBRARY_PATH from .bash_profile is set correctly. > It is unset only on NX session (and the other sett

Re: [CentOS] Cannot get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work under NX (freenx)

2009-06-08 Thread Jeff
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Andrzej Szymanski wrote: > Filipe Brandenburger wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 14:38, Andrzej Szymanski wrote: >>> Everything works fine under standard ssh login, but under NX client the >>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable is missing (the R_HISTSIZE is exported

Re: [CentOS] Cannot get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work under NX (freenx)

2009-06-08 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi, On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 15:04, Andrzej Szymanski wrote: > However, moving this to .bashrc is a workaround. If I log in graphically > to the console the LD_LIBRARY_PATH from .bash_profile is set correctly. > It is unset only on NX session (and the other settings from > .bash_profile are set prop

Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.3 update do RHEL 5.3

2009-06-08 Thread Albert
Phil Schaffner pisze: > Tom Diehl wrote: > ... >> No. The versions for Centos are always higher then RHEL. Therefore unless >> the updates RHEL versions happen to be greater then the existing centos >> versions you will never get the updates. > > I'd think that it would be technically possible to

Re: [CentOS] Intel Graphics support in future releases

2009-06-08 Thread Scott Silva
on 6-6-2009 5:04 PM Ron Blizzard spake the following: > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:06 PM, > RedShift wrote: > >>> I had the same question in the back of my mind. There are some great >>> evolutions going on right now, but they take a lot of time to mature. I've >>> also been wondering about deskt

Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.3 update do RHEL 5.3

2009-06-08 Thread Phil Schaffner
Albert wrote: ... > Thx for the answered, but the centos have commercial support like RHEL? CentOS itself is a volunteer non-commercial effort. If you want a paid-support OS RHEL is highly recommended, and CentOS would not exist without them. There are also companies that offer commercial supp

[CentOS] LZMA for CentOS 5.3 repository or source or rpm

2009-06-08 Thread Rob Townley
i need lzma compression for CloneZilla, but have not found it in any CentOS repository. The Finnish website was down and when up, it does not do much english. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Cannot get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work under NX (freenx)

2009-06-08 Thread Gary Greene
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Louis Lagendijk > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:21 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Cannot get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work > under NX (freenx) > > On Mon, 2009-06-08

Re: [CentOS] Cannot get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work under NX (freenx)

2009-06-08 Thread Gary Greene
I'm surprised that since it installs in a non-standard location that it doesn't create a /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ conf file. In that case it's a simple drop-in file that only requires ldconfig to be run after the package installation -- Gary L. Greene, Jr. IT Operations Minerva Networks, Inc. Cell

Re: [CentOS] LZMA for CentOS 5.3 repository or source or rpm

2009-06-08 Thread Phil Schaffner
Rob Townley wrote: > i need lzma compression for CloneZilla, but have not found it in any > CentOS repository. The Finnish website was down and when up, it does > not do much english. RPMforge has it. Please read http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories and note the warnings and

Re: [CentOS] Cannot get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work under NX (freenx)

2009-06-08 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi, On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 16:42, Gary Greene wrote: > I'm surprised that since it installs in a non-standard location that it > doesn't create a /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ conf file. In that case it's a simple > drop-in file that only requires ldconfig to be run after the package > installation I

Re: [CentOS] Cannot get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work under NX (freenx)

2009-06-08 Thread Les Mikesell
Filipe Brandenburger wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 16:42, Gary Greene wrote: >> I'm surprised that since it installs in a non-standard location that it >> doesn't create a /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ conf file. In that case it's a simple >> drop-in file that only requires ldconfig to be run aft

[CentOS] Building a custom install CD

2009-06-08 Thread Fred Moyer
Greetings, I am looking for resources on how to build my own Centos install CD for a preselected package set that I want to install. I think Red Hat may have had this functionality at some point but it has been a while since I have needed to do this. I found this on how to build my own kernel -

Re: [CentOS] Disabling IPv6 in CentOS 4.7

2009-06-08 Thread Hann-huei Chiou
Hi, On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 09:50:11PM -0400, Stephen Harris wrote: > I thought I'd done that standard stuff > /etc/modprobe.conf: > alias net-pf-10 off > alias ipv6 off > /etc/sysconfig/network: > NETWORKING_IPV6=no > > But on reboot I still see ipv6 entries against the eth devi

Re: [CentOS] Disabling IPv6 in CentOS 4.7

2009-06-08 Thread Stephen Harris
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 06:48:28AM +0800, Hann-huei Chiou wrote: > On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 09:50:11PM -0400, Stephen Harris wrote: > > I thought I'd done that standard stuff > > /etc/modprobe.conf: > > alias net-pf-10 off > > alias ipv6 off > > /etc/sysconfig/network: > > NETWORKING

[CentOS] Networking Issue

2009-06-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Need some opinions on making a multihomed box more resilient to failure. This server runs asterisk and performs nat and firewalling for an office. Its wan nic is plugged directly into a cable modem and I am stuck with it being configured as a dhcp client. The lan nic services a small office, and ha

Re: [CentOS] Networking Issue

2009-06-08 Thread nate
Joseph L. Casale wrote: > Now it seems there is still one last hurdle, when the connection is yanked > to simulate a complete outage, asterisk still goes down. I can only assume > this happens now as a result of no default gateway? check the logs? run strace on the process? run tcpdump on the int

[CentOS] PAE or use 64-bit?

2009-06-08 Thread Matt Arnilo S. Baluyos (Mailing Lists)
Hi all, Which would you recommend for a 4GB+ machine? A 32-bit install with PAE-enabled kernel or just use 64-bit? Regards, Matt -- Stand before it and there is no beginning. Follow it and there is no end. Stay with the ancient Tao, Move with the present. __

Re: [CentOS] PAE or use 64-bit?

2009-06-08 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:42:50 +0800 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > Hi all, > > Which would you recommend for a 4GB+ machine? > > A 32-bit install with PAE-enabled kernel or just use 64-bit? It depends... If you are not doing anything that needs a 64-bit address space, then 32-bit w/PAE will wo

Re: [CentOS] PAE or use 64-bit?

2009-06-08 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi, On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 22:28, Robert Heller wrote: > At Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:42:50 +0800 CentOS mailing list > wrote: >> Which would you recommend for a 4GB+ machine? >> A 32-bit install with PAE-enabled kernel or just use 64-bit? > > If you are not doing anything that needs a 64-bit address s

Re: [CentOS] PAE or use 64-bit?

2009-06-08 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Filipe Brandenburger wrote: > Even though PAE might work reasonably well if you have 4GB or 6GB or > 8GB and with your current applications, 64-bit will keep working well > when you need to upgrade your machine to 16GB or 32GB and run > additional applications or ne

Re: [CentOS] PAE or use 64-bit?

2009-06-08 Thread Matt Arnilo S. Baluyos (Mailing Lists)
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Filipe > Brandenburger wrote: > >> Even though PAE might work reasonably well if you have 4GB or 6GB or >> 8GB and with your current applications, 64-bit will keep working well >> when you need to upgrade your machi