Re: [CentOS] Missing something about sendmail

2008-10-16 Thread Christopher Chan
Paul R. Ganci wrote: Hi All, I have a strange problem that I don't understand. I have an access file which has the following line: Did you run makemap? Does the db file contain the same stuff as the text file? Christopher ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] Regd: SeLinux Configuration

2008-10-16 Thread Ian Blackwell
Balaji wrote: > Dear All, > I have executed the following command and i have changed the > "/etc/selinux/config" file > and reboot the PC also > setenforce 1 > i have getting the following message only > setenforce: SELinux is disabled > > Try using the GUI tools to enable and configure S

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Morten Torstensen
Kenneth Price wrote: I favor one-stop shopping. I agree with Jeff. While I understand this general list can become a bit overwhelming for the CentOS Staff, we all must remember that this is a GENERAL list. I think the general CentOS list should be an open and embracing community. A centos

Re: [CentOS] Missing something about sendmail

2008-10-16 Thread Paul R. Ganci
Christopher Chan wrote: I have a strange problem that I don't understand. I have an access file which has the following line: Did you run makemap? Does the db file contain the same stuff as the text file? Yes. The output of makemap -u hash access.db >access_dump shows 168.144.250.215 OK # xs

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Niki Kovacs
Frank Cox a écrit : I tend to agree with you, actually. The Fedora list, for example, seems to work fine as far as I can see (most of the time, anyway), and I just skip over anything that doesn't look interesting to me. I second that. Coming from Slackware, I tend to adhere to the KISS (Keep

Re: [CentOS] Missing something about sendmail

2008-10-16 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Paul R. Ganci wrote on Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:23:33 -0600: > OK # xsmtp02.mail2web.com You cannot put comments in the file like this, it's interpreted as the error message. You can use only comments that start the line. > Is this because I have commented out > > dnl FEATURE(delay_checks)dnl > >

Re: [CentOS] Centos 5 and Driver Disks

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Clint Dilks wrote: It isn't a big deal as I will try a Network based install or use a USB DVD drive but I just want to confirm if using a RHEL 5 Driver Disk should work :) It should yes. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

[CentOS] Problems with Thunderbird

2008-10-16 Thread ArcosCom Linux User
On new CentOS 5.2 installation (and ugradation before config the diferent programs I use), I'm having problems with Thunderbird 2.0.0.17. Problem 1: I configured my e-mail account (as I have in my old machine) and I have no access to my pop3 and/or smtp servers. I write my user for the access, bu

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Jeff wrote: There are probably as many (or more) threads that drift off topic as there are those that start out that way and are labeled as such. I don't think a new list is really going to help create the separation you seek. In fact, introducing a second list will probably generate many convers

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Chris Geldenhuis wrote: I agree with Jeff, in other forums where that I belong to the distinction between "tech" and "chat" quickly becomes blurred and many posts are cross posted to both (or all) lists, causing duplication in downloads and scanning. how about when the distinction is between

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Ned Slider
Karanbir Singh wrote: Morten Torstensen wrote: I think the general CentOS list should be an open and embracing community. A centos-tech list sounds more like the name of the "developer" or "power user" list than a semi-off-topic technology discussion group. That was my first thought when seein

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal - meaningless

2008-10-16 Thread Spike Turner
Karanbir Singh wrote: > Over a period of time, we would like to see the CentOS list > become a > more user help and distro specific list, with generic > conversations > moving to the centos-tech list. > perhaps that is why "core" issues in CentOS like the kernel and samba are ignored by the

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Karanbir Singh wrote: One thing that we are often blamed for is trying to stifle conversations and to discourage people from commenting / contributing / encouraging conversations. And that cant be further from the truth, really. We are all pro-community ( and when I say we, I mean everyone - in

Re: [CentOS] Missing something about sendmail

2008-10-16 Thread Paul R. Ganci
Kai Schaetzl wrote: OK # xsmtp02.mail2web.com You cannot put comments in the file like this, it's interpreted as the error message. You can use only comments that start the line Crap ... after all the experience I had with sendmail I never realized that. I guess you learn something new eve

Re: [CentOS] firefox is incredibly unstable

2008-10-16 Thread Michael Simpson
On 10/16/08, William L. Maltby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 09:47 +0100, Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: > > sbeam wrote: > > > does anyone else have major probs with Firefox as installed on CentOS5? > > > > > > ever since the RPM for FF3 came out it has been crashing daily. Usuall

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread William L. Maltby
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 22:54 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Karanbir Singh wrote: > > And to better cater to these conversations, as well as further encourage > > such content, we'd like to propose creating a 'centos-tech' list. > > Also, all comments are welcome! > > If there is a general feeli

Re: [CentOS] firefox is incredibly unstable

2008-10-16 Thread sbeam
On Thursday 16 October 2008 07:26, Michael Simpson wrote: > > Ditto here. Have you run an "rpm --verify" to see if you have corruption > > problems? Have you mixed installs from (possibly conflicting) repos? I > > suspect one of those two. Have you checked your hardware (memtest, > > etc.)? If the

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Les Mikesell
Karanbir Singh wrote: Morten Torstensen wrote: I think the general CentOS list should be an open and embracing community. A centos-tech list sounds more like the name of the "developer" or "power user" list than a semi-off-topic technology discussion group. That was my first thought when seein

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Les Mikesell
Kai Schaetzl wrote: I'm all for having less traffic on this list, but I don't have a good recipe for that. I doubt that splitting the list will really help much. As others have already said you will probably end up with two lists that have mixed conversations from the topics of both lists. And

[CentOS] How can I free the disk space after compiling kernel

2008-10-16 Thread Ian jonhson
Hi, I have recompiled my kernel and updated it to kernel-2.6.27. However, I found there are no more than 1G disk space left for my jobs. How can I free my disk space but in the same time keep all the compiled kernel modules (*.ko files) here? Can I remove the *.o files created by kernel compiling

Re: [CentOS] How can I free the disk space after compiling kernel

2008-10-16 Thread Jim Perrin
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Ian jonhson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have recompiled my kernel and updated it to kernel-2.6.27. > However, I found there are no more than 1G disk space left > for my jobs. Seriously? What size hard drive did you start out with, a 4G kit? > How can I

Re: [CentOS] Rebooting CentOS 5.2 XEN Guest

2008-10-16 Thread Brett Serkez
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Serkez wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:23:16 -0400: > >> At one time when I issued an 'init 6' in one of the XEN guests it >> rebooted I've narrowed the issue to the xend and xendomains daemons. On one of my systems I was

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal - meaningless

2008-10-16 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Spike Turner wrote: > perhaps that is why "core" issues in CentOS like the kernel > and samba are ignored by the developers? Examples :- > > http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-October/066143.html We are not going to rebase except if upstream does. And maybe nobody answered that becaus

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Morten Torstensen
Karanbir Singh wrote: What would you recommend as an alternative name for the list ? And it wont be 'offtopic' technology chatter, it will be very much ontopic there :D centos-core, centos-base, centos-root, centos-system, centos-admin ... just dropping in some. "tech" is a pretty wide term.

Re: [CentOS] firefox is incredibly unstable

2008-10-16 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
sbeam wrote: does anyone else have major probs with Firefox as installed on CentOS5? ever since the RPM for FF3 came out it has been crashing daily. Usually when I use Save As... or Browse... or anything else that brings up the Gnome file picker. After the crash I re-start then the file picker

Re: [CentOS] Seeking advice about auth/home serving

2008-10-16 Thread Ross Walker
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:08 PM, MHR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Ross Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Sigh... >> >> I resist top posting and trim and thread my replies, stay on topic, am >> polite, all while tapping out on my iPhone display. >> >> But that

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 10:08 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Kenneth Price wrote: > > I agree with Jeff. While I understand this general list can become a bit > > overwhelming for the CentOS Staff, we all must remember that this is a > > GENERAL list. All questions, from the novice to the expert

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Kenneth Price wrote: I agree with Jeff. While I understand this general list can become a bit overwhelming for the CentOS Staff, we all must remember that this is a GENERAL list. All questions, from the novice to the expert should be welcome. This list is not only a way to get problems reso

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Morten Torstensen wrote: I think the general CentOS list should be an open and embracing community. A centos-tech list sounds more like the name of the "developer" or "power user" list than a semi-off-topic technology discussion group. That was my first thought when seeing the new name. What

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread John Hinton
Karanbir Singh wrote: Chris Geldenhuis wrote: I agree with Jeff, in other forums where that I belong to the distinction between "tech" and "chat" quickly becomes blurred and many posts are cross posted to both (or all) lists, causing duplication in downloads and scanning. how about when the

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Kai Schaetzl
I'm all for having less traffic on this list, but I don't have a good recipe for that. I doubt that splitting the list will really help much. As others have already said you will probably end up with two lists that have mixed conversations from the topics of both lists. And it won't help with t

Re: [CentOS] firefox is incredibly unstable

2008-10-16 Thread William L. Maltby
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 09:47 +0100, Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: > sbeam wrote: > > does anyone else have major probs with Firefox as installed on CentOS5? > > > > ever since the RPM for FF3 came out it has been crashing daily. Usually > > when I > > > Sorry to hear this, but I use Firefox 3.0.2 da

Re: [CentOS] Postfix problem

2008-10-16 Thread mouss
Paolo Supino a écrit : > > Hi > I didn't think of checking if Sendmail is the one sending the email or > not. I will have to check this out. > I will only have access to this server next Wednesday. So until then I > can't check anything or post anything ... > If you find that it's sendmail,

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread John Hinton
Craig White wrote: If you are going to go to multiple lists, might I suggest that you have 1 system-admins list and 1 general-users list and you can tightly control the system-admins list. Craig Craig. I like these definitive names! But I would like a bit more freedom on the sysadmin list

Re: [CentOS] firefox is incredibly unstable

2008-10-16 Thread Robert
Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: sbeam wrote: does anyone else have major probs with Firefox as installed on CentOS5? Hi Sorry to hear this, but I use Firefox 3.0.2 daily and I don't have any of these problems. For me works fine. Regards Marcelo Centos 5.2 (2.6.18-92.1.13.el5) firefox-3.0.2-

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Kenneth Price
- "Karanbir Singh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kenneth Price wrote: > > I agree with Jeff. While I understand this general list can become > a bit overwhelming for the CentOS Staff, we all must remember that > this is a GENERAL list. All questions, from the novice to the expert > should be w

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Kenneth Price
- "Craig White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you are going to go to multiple lists, might I suggest that you > have 1 system-admins list and 1 general-users list and you can tightly > control the system-admins list. I disagreed with the idea of creating a second list as originally proposed,

RE: [CentOS] firefox is incredibly unstable

2008-10-16 Thread bruce
hey when you're saying "crashing", what exactly do you mean?.. is it the app that crashes.. is it that your mouse/keyboard no longer works?, is your system still running (you can ssh into it), but you can't move your mouse??? thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailt

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Kenneth Price
- "John Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > > If you are going to go to multiple lists, might I suggest that you > > have 1 system-admins list and 1 general-users list and you can tightly > > But I would like a bit more freedom on the sysadmin list. The ability > to g

Re: [CentOS] Seeking advice about auth/home serving

2008-10-16 Thread MHR
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Ross Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Basically, in a nutshell what I was trying to get across is: > > 1) Keep passwords in local passwd files or Kerberos, using NIS or LDAP for > passwords is generally not a good idea as there are too many ways these can be >

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Kai Schaetzl
John Hinton wrote on Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:09:26 -0400: > Perhaps a new list name that might be considered would be > CentOS-Extended or CentOS-Servers. A place where Apache conf can be > discussed, as I'm sure the desktop users don't want to hear about > this... or running a DNS server... and th

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:18 -0500, Kenneth Price wrote: > - "John Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Craig White wrote: > > > > > > If you are going to go to multiple lists, might I suggest that you > > > have 1 system-admins list and 1 general-users list and you can tightly > > > > But I

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Spike Turner
Kai Schaetzl wrote: > I agree with all you said and I think that a distinction > along the lines > of how one uses CentOS might indeed help, say > centos-server-users and > centos-desktop-users or a list that is just about hardware > and making it > work with CentOS. Out of curiosity which maj

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Bob Taylor
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 10:02 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: [snip] Karanbir, Have you looked at Usenet? It's user post/OT list history? Should give you good information on splitting a list into one or more parts and the results of doing so. Bob -- Bob Taylor

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Stephen Harris
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:18:42AM -0500, Kenneth Price wrote: > - "John Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But I would like a bit more freedom on the sysadmin list. The ability > > to get more in depth on particulars and include discussions of other > > software which interacts with exis

[CentOS] strict memory

2008-10-16 Thread Mag Gam
Hello All: Running 5.2 at our university. We have several student's processes that take up too much memory. Our system have 64G of RAM and some processes take close to 32-48G of RAM. This is causing many problems for others. I was wondering if there is a way to restrict memory usage per process? I

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal - meaningless

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Spike Turner wrote: perhaps that is why "core" issues in CentOS like the kernel and samba are ignored by the developers? Examples :- http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-October/066143.html Thats a bit of a dribveby waste of space post that does not really merit a reply from anyone.

Re: [CentOS] strict memory

2008-10-16 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi, On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:48, Mag Gam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering if there is a way to restrict memory usage > per process? If the process goes over 32G simply kill it. You can limit the amount of virtual memory of a process with "ulimit -v". See "help ulimit" or "man bash"

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Les Mikesell wrote: Centos-applications might make sense if the idea is to cover how to do things using programs that run on Centos - or when/how to replace the packaged apps with newer versions. But you might want hardware advice too. yes, also the idea of best practices is something that wo

Re: [CentOS] strict memory

2008-10-16 Thread Mag Gam
Yes. Thanks. I was thinking of that too. Any other suggestions? TIA On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Filipe Brandenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:48, Mag Gam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I was wondering if there is a way to restrict memory usage >> per p

[CentOS] central patch list

2008-10-16 Thread Mark Belanger
Is there a list somewhere of available updates for a given CentOS release? Something like this: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rhel4ws-errata.html Ideally I would like a something like: Bug DescriptionLink to update kernel blah,etchttp://some.rpm.com/.r

Re: [CentOS] strict memory

2008-10-16 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 at 12:48pm, Mag Gam wrote Running 5.2 at our university. We have several student's processes that take up too much memory. Our system have 64G of RAM and some processes take close to 32-48G of RAM. This is causing many problems for others. I was wondering if there is a way to

Re: [CentOS] strict memory

2008-10-16 Thread John R Pierce
Mag Gam wrote: Hello All: Running 5.2 at our university. We have several student's processes that take up too much memory. Our system have 64G of RAM and some processes take close to 32-48G of RAM. This is causing many problems for others. I was wondering if there is a way to restrict memory usa

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Christopher Chan wrote: - technologies - best practices - deployment strategies and tools - management strategies and tools I don't know whether that will take off...has not it been tried outside centos.org by centos list members already? Not that I am aware of. But its worth a try here in .

Re: [CentOS] central patch list

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Mark Belanger wrote: Is there a list somewhere of available updates for a given CentOS release? Something like this: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rhel4ws-errata.html Ideally I would like a something like: Bug DescriptionLink to update kernel blah,etchttp

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Kenneth Price wrote: and that includes you, ya big teddy bear. I am not *that* fat! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

OT: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread James B. Byrne
On: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:01:54 +0100, "Marcelo M. Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Karanbir Singh wrote: >> One thing that we are often blamed for is trying to stifle conversations >> and to discourage people from commenting / contributing / encouraging >> conversations. And that cant be fu

Re: [CentOS] [OT] what crashing means WAS: firefox is incredibly unstable

2008-10-16 Thread sbeam
On Thursday 16 October 2008 12:08, bruce wrote: > when you're saying "crashing", what exactly do you mean?.. is it the app > that crashes.. is it that your mouse/keyboard no longer works?, is your > system still running (you can ssh into it), but you can't move your > mouse??? it crashed, it asplo

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Bob Taylor wrote: Have you looked at Usenet? It's user post/OT list history? Should give you good information on splitting a list into one or more parts and the results of doing so. Last time I checked, there was more than 1 newsgroup. - KB ___ CentO

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal - meaningless

2008-10-16 Thread MHR
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If the CentOS devs don't have time to answer key questions such as >> on the kernel but have time to consider fragmenting the mailing list >> who wins/loses? > > What barriers did you run into when you tried to help wit

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: I understand the eagerness to lower the "noise" ratio, I've read and re-read my original email, and not one place can I find something that would lead so many people to believe that the whole aim of the new list was to reduce the noise ratio alone. Maybe I just didn

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal - meaningless

2008-10-16 Thread Spike Turner
Karanbir Singh wrote: > Thats a bit of a dribveby waste of space post that does not > really merit > a reply from anyone. Also if that was something that > concerns you so > much, what have you done about it ? > > > > http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-October/066154.html > > Johnny

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal - meaningless

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Spike Turner wrote: A driveby waste of space post was one by a certain Karanbir telling someone to recklessly upgrade Gnome when this is supposed to be an enterprise distro. Last time I checked, it was still a free world ? unless you live in the US, in which case, all bets are off. And yes, I

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Ross Walker
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: >> >> I understand the eagerness to lower the "noise" ratio, > > I've read and re-read my original email, and not one place can I find > something that would lead so many people to believe that the

Re: [CentOS] strict memory

2008-10-16 Thread Mag Gam
Hi John: Well, we run a lot of statistical analysis and our code loads a lot of data into a vector for fast calculations. I am not sure how else to do these calculations fast without loading it into memory. Thats why we have to do it this way. TIA On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:00 PM, John R Pierce <

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread MHR
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ross Walker wrote: >> >> Given the overall poor reception of the idea, I'd just put it on the back >> burner for now... > > yes, thats sounding like a good idea for the time being. > > - KB Thank you - for listening, par

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Les Mikesell
Stephen Harris wrote: To be honest, I don't think this list should be split. Instead it should be more rigorously policed. I have to disagree strongly with that, since policing generally wastes everyone's time with more noise that it manages to control and there will (and should) always be

Re: [CentOS] strict memory

2008-10-16 Thread John R Pierce
Mag Gam wrote: Hi John: Well, we run a lot of statistical analysis and our code loads a lot of data into a vector for fast calculations. I am not sure how else to do these calculations fast without loading it into memory. Thats why we have to do it this way. well, if you got several proces

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
MHR wrote: Thank you - for listening, participating, discussing and making the right choice. At the moment, its more a case of a 'failure to communicate' in my opinion. Lets see how it pans out. There are still some really good ideas in this thread, most worth looking at. - KB _

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Bob Taylor
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 10:08 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > this list isnt really a general list as you put it, its more of a > user-help and support list for people who use and are considering to use > CentOS. This is my understanding of the purpose of this list. > This list is now also at a

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Spike Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I've seen Dag Wieers and Johhny Hughes posting questions > on the Nahant-list, why not on this list or the Centos forum? > Such a fragmentation as that proposed is one guaranteed to > turn the CentOS mailing list al

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Bob Taylor
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 18:12 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: > > Have you looked at Usenet? It's user post/OT list history? Should give > > you good information on splitting a list into one or more parts and the > > results of doing so. > > Last time I checked, there was more than

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Ross Walker wrote: Given the overall poor reception of the idea, I'd just put it on the back burner for now... yes, thats sounding like a good idea for the time being. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/lis

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Spike Turner wrote: > Out of curiosity which major linux distro operates > a fragmented mailing list such as the one proposed? https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo http://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/ https://ml.mandriva.net/wws/lists Compared to those CentOS re

[CentOS] Linux Expo, London 23rd to 25th Oct 2008

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi, We need a few people to help with the CentOS booth at Linux Expo in London, from the 23rd to the 25th. If you are around and able to come hang out with the us ( Lance and I will be there too ) it would be much appreciated. If you are interested, reply to this thread here, on the centos-pr

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Florin Andrei
Karanbir Singh wrote: And to better cater to these conversations, as well as further encourage such content, we'd like to propose creating a 'centos-tech' list. Over a period of time, we would like to see the CentOS list become a more user help and distro specific list, with generic conversa

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Toby Bluhm
I was interested in seeing what the actual vote results may be, so here's what I've calculated: New list as proposed - 5 Keep as is - 11 Either way - 2 Keep + update charter - 2 New list + new name/charter - 6 Not declared - 3 A few folks posted remarks, but I could not detect a vote - th

RE: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread bruce
hey tony... care to discern the future results of the US pres election!!! thanks for the laugh... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Toby Bluhm Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:32 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] new list p

[CentOS] snmptrapd -A option deprecated?

2008-10-16 Thread Camron W. Fox
Alle, The man page for snmptrapd (CentOS5.2/net-snmp-5.3.1-24.el5_2.1) *shows* the -A option (to append the output to file) is still valid, but it is not. snmptrapd -h omits the option and doesn't show an alternate flag. The option is still valid for snmpd. /etc/snmp/snmptrapd.options looks

[CentOS] m4v

2008-10-16 Thread centos
Hi, I run 5.2, how do I play m4v videos? I am not trying to remove any DRM, only to view some Internet videos such as Lightroom killer tips: (http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/videos/download.php?file=lightroom_foldersanddrives.m4v) uses m4v files. Any suggestion? -- Thanks ___

Re: [CentOS] m4v

2008-10-16 Thread Ralph Angenendt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I run 5.2, how do I play m4v videos? I am not trying to remove any > DRM, only to view some Internet videos such as Lightroom killer tips: > Any suggestion? VLC and/or mplayer from the rpmforge repository:

Re: [CentOS] m4v

2008-10-16 Thread Ross Walker
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:01 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I run 5.2, how do I play m4v videos? I am not trying to remove any > DRM, only to view some Internet videos such as Lightroom killer tips: > > (http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/videos/download.php?file=lightroom_foldersanddriv

Re: [CentOS] m4v

2008-10-16 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ross Walker wrote: > Livna is a repo based on delivering codecs for commercial multimedia. Livna has no CentOS support. Ralph pgpA4enYa6the.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listin

[CentOS] Re: new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-16-2008 3:08 AM William L. Maltby spake the following: > On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 22:54 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: >> Karanbir Singh wrote: >>> And to better cater to these conversations, as well as further encourage >>> such content, we'd like to propose creating a 'centos-tech' list. >> Als

[CentOS] Re: Centos 5 and Driver Disks

2008-10-16 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-15-2008 7:33 PM Clint Dilks spake the following: > Hi, > > I am trying to install CentOS 5.2 on a Dell PowerEdge R905, and a > problem that you run into is that the DVD Drive on the system is not > recognized by the kernel. > I have done some searching on the web and found > http://kbase.red

[CentOS] Re: Missing something about sendmail

2008-10-16 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-16-2008 12:56 AM Paul R. Ganci spake the following: > Christopher Chan wrote: >>> I have a strange problem that I don't understand. I have an access >>> file which has the following line: >> Did you run makemap? Does the db file contain the same stuff as the >> text file? > Yes. The output of

[CentOS] Re: central patch list

2008-10-16 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-16-2008 9:49 AM Mark Belanger spake the following: > Is there a list somewhere of available updates for a > given CentOS release? Something like this: > https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rhel4ws-errata.html > > Ideally I would like a something like: > Bug DescriptionLink to

Re: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-16 Thread Marcus Moeller
>>This I am not sure can be done with dhcpd. However you can specify NIC to >> fixed static addys and the nic harware address in the dhcp.conf file. > >>How does that work? > > JohnStanley Writes: > This is what I am talking about at the end of the ".conf" file below. That > is what you are trying

Re: [CentOS] Re: central patch list

2008-10-16 Thread Mark Belanger
Scott Silva wrote: on 10-16-2008 9:49 AM Mark Belanger spake the following: Is there a list somewhere of available updates for a given CentOS release? Something like this: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rhel4ws-errata.html Ideally I would like a something like: Bug Description

Re: OT: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Robert
James B. Byrne wrote: I too, see little problem with the current signal to noise ratio. Compared to some tech lists I subscribe too this one is pretty much always on the topic of some aspect of using CentOS effective and efficiently. I agree. There are times when stuff that obviously

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
> What would you recommend as an alternative name for the list ? And it > wont be 'offtopic' technology chatter, it will be very much ontopic > there :D centos-sysadmin? -- Spiro Harvey Knossos Networks Ltd 021-295-1923www.knossos.net.nz signature.asc De

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
> I also note that moderation comes in 2 forms...the first being when > one of the CentOS developers says stop this thread which is irregular, and you'll also notice that this never works. the thread typically degenerates into the yay-sayers and the nay-sayers, which actually produces *more* noise

[CentOS] help required

2008-10-16 Thread fabian dacunha
Dear ALl, I have the following live setup . Centos 5.1 running as a Mail and DNS server with the following software Sendmail ver MailScanner ver squirrel mail clam av spamassassin mailwatch we have about 250 mail users all with no shell and every thing is working perfectly fine now i wd like t

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread John Hinton
Karanbir Singh wrote: MHR wrote: Thank you - for listening, participating, discussing and making the right choice. At the moment, its more a case of a 'failure to communicate' in my opinion. Lets see how it pans out. There are still some really good ideas in this thread, most worth looking a

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal - meaningless

2008-10-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
> A driveby waste of space post was one by a certain Karanbir > telling someone to recklessly upgrade Gnome when this is supposed > to be an enterprise distro. well, if they're running Gnome, then they're probably not using the machine in an "enterprise" capacity. nobody in their right mind would

[CentOS] Re: new list proposal - meaningless

2008-10-16 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-16-2008 1:48 PM Spiro Harvey spake the following: >> A driveby waste of space post was one by a certain Karanbir >> telling someone to recklessly upgrade Gnome when this is supposed >> to be an enterprise distro. > > well, if they're running Gnome, then they're probably not using the > machi

Re: [CentOS] Re: Centos 5 and Driver Disks

2008-10-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Scott Silva wrote: It should work in theory. But if the driver disk is for RedHat 5u1, it probably won't work with CentOS 5.2, as the install media will have a different kernel. The driver disk only patches the running installer kernel AFAIR. I get a 404 on the url in the OP's post, but if som

Re: [CentOS] help required

2008-10-16 Thread Fabian Arrotin
fabian dacunha wrote: Dear ALl, 1) if i have a copy of my /etc/passwd file and the /etc/skel/shadow file and if my current HDD crashes .. yes, you just need the /etc/passwd , /etc/shadow , /etc/group and /etc/gshadow for the local auth Of course, in case of setting up a new box and integratin

[CentOS] Re: help required

2008-10-16 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-16-2008 2:03 PM fabian dacunha spake the following: > Dear ALl, > > I have the following live setup . > Centos 5.1 running as a Mail and DNS server with the following software > > Sendmail ver > MailScanner ver > squirrel mail > clam av > spamassassin > mailwatch > > we have about 250 mail

Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
> > Given the overall poor reception of the idea, I'd just put it on > > the back burner for now... > yes, thats sounding like a good idea for the time being. I don't think it is a good idea. I think that we need two separate lists. One for general users, one for server sysadmins. What we don't k

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