Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps

2008-09-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Niki Kovacs wrote: > My suggestion to Dag (with all respect taken): why not create a > [rf-testing] repo for the critical stuff, a bit like [kbsingh]? > > I repeat, since this is important: please do not take offense. Shit > happens, I know. And if all that could be discussed on rpmforge users

Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps

2008-09-24 Thread Niki Kovacs
Ralph Angenendt a écrit : And if all that could be discussed on rpmforge users mailing list *where* other people from the rpmforge community also read and post, it would have been even greater >:) Sorry for that. Niki ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@

Re: [CentOS] Shell script to list group members

2008-09-24 Thread Ian Blackwell
Bob Beers wrote: > grep : /etc/group | cut -d: -f4 > > will give a comma separated list, provided is a valid group name. > > There is one problem with this approach, which is the assumption that all users' primary group is the same as their login id - which I agree is typically the RHEL way, bu

Re: [CentOS] usb irq problem

2008-09-24 Thread nate
MHR wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:02 PM, partha chowdhury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> well i managed to fix the problem after an intensive search through the >> forum and adding the noirqdebug option to the kernel line. >> > > Are you /sure/ this fixes the problem? Your last fix didn't

Re: [CentOS] kernel and memory question

2008-09-24 Thread nate
Mag Gam wrote: > Currently at my university we are running many servers with Centos 4.6 > and everything is okay, but when a user does a large operation such as > 'cp' or 'tar' or 'rsync' all of the physical memory gets exhausted. cp or tar won't exhaust your memory. rsync can consume a lot if you

[CentOS] non-graphics install or fix xorg.conf?

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Trying the to install on the OQO, and hitting up against one problem I see a lot in the comments about installing various distros on it. That is its screen size. So I could install using the text installation except... What is the command line for text install and askmethod so I can use HTTP

Re: [CentOS] non-graphics install or fix xorg.conf?

2008-09-24 Thread nate
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > How best to proceed? I assume this computer has a network connection? Put the kickstart config on a http server. Though I've long had problems with LVM and kickstart, it often causes anaconda to crash (going back at least as far as RHEL 3). Maybe 5.x is better in this r

Re: [CentOS] Shell script to list group members

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Beers
Part 1: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Ian Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob Beers wrote: >> grep : /etc/group | cut -d: -f4 >> >> will give a comma separated list, provided is a valid group >> name. >> >> > There is one problem with this approach, which is the assumption that > all u

Re: [CentOS] non-graphics install or fix xorg.conf?

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
nate wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: How best to proceed? I assume this computer has a network connection? Put the kickstart config on a http server. Though I've long had problems with LVM and kickstart, it often causes anaconda to crash (going back at least as far as RHEL 3). Maybe 5

[CentOS] Telnet & ssh connection limit and idle timeout

2008-09-24 Thread lingu
Dear all, * I am running centos 4 update 5. I want to limit user connection(maximum 10 simultaneous connection are only allowed) to server (for telnet & ssh sessions).In the mean time i like to remove all dead and idle connections(ssh & telnet session) of more that 24 hours. Any one guide me h

Re: [CentOS] usb irq problem

2008-09-24 Thread kira laucas
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:39 PM, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_kernel/kernel_configuration/re18.html > > By default, the kernel attempts to detect and disable unhandled > interrupt sources because they can cause problems with the > responsiven

Re: [CentOS] non-graphics install or fix xorg.conf?

2008-09-24 Thread nate
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > How to access the kickstart via http (and where to put it, somewhere in > the /centos/5/os/i386 structure?). If your asking how to access the kickstart config via http? Put ks=http:/// as a kernel parameter > What to put into the kickstart to get it to finish in text mo

Re: [CentOS] usb irq problem

2008-09-24 Thread nate
kira laucas wrote: > now that you have mentioned it, i have noticed recently that my desktop > motherboard usb port has gone slower. i mean previously i used to get 28-30 > MB/s transfer speed with my external usb drive. but now the max i get is > 10MB/s . i have tested the external drive on my fr

[CentOS] Centos and colocation....

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
Well, I finally did it..and used centos. I started out in 1997 with my little website with not much on it. It was a shared host account. Eventually I added some more sites and got to grow out and went to this new fangled thing called VPS. Lots of problems plagued me throughout that experience, so

[CentOS] CentOS 5.2 kickstart install with latest updates

2008-09-24 Thread Venkatraju
Hi, The CentOS 5.2 release notes contain this warning: "A kickstart installation that attempts to use the *repo* directive (where that *repo* points to an updates repository) may fail to properly install." This is exactly the method that I had been using with CentOS 5.1 :-) What is the right way

Re: [CentOS] usb irq problem

2008-09-24 Thread partha chowdhury
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 07:09 -0700, nate wrote: > > I wouldn't think the system is about to fail if it's just going > slower. If there are specific error messages that point to it's > failing then maybe. Errors quoted earlier just seem like bad > hardware(perhaps poorly designed or built, rather

[CentOS] Install via VNC

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
This sounds very interesting: http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/VncHeadlessInstall It would get me around my limitations on the screen on the OQO. And the instructions read rather well. Only thing I don't know how to do is have vncviewer in 'listen' mode. ___

[CentOS] Re: usb irq problem

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 9-24-2008 6:42 AM kira laucas spake the following: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:39 PM, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_kernel/kernel_configuration/re18.html By default, the kernel attempts to detect and disa

Re: [CentOS] Install via VNC

2008-09-24 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:27:21AM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > This sounds very interesting: > > http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/VncHeadlessInstall > > It would get me around my limitations on the screen on the OQO. And the > instructions read rather well. > > Only thing I don't know ho

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 kickstart install with latest updates

2008-09-24 Thread Steve Thompson
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Venkatraju wrote: Is adding a repository in the %post section of the kickstart file and running "yum update" safe? Anyone run into problems with this? I am using exactly this method with CentOS 5.2. So far only about 20 installations, but I have not had a problem with any

[CentOS] Re: Centos and colocation....

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 9-24-2008 7:17 AM Bob Hoffman spake the following: Well, I finally did it..and used centos. I started out in 1997 with my little website with not much on it. It was a shared host account. Eventually I added some more sites and got to grow out and went to this new fangled thing called VPS. Lo

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 kickstart install with latest updates

2008-09-24 Thread Matthew Kent
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 20:44 +0530, Venkatraju wrote: > This is exactly the method that I had been using with CentOS 5.1 :-) > What is the right way to achieve this now? Is adding a repository in > the %post section of the kickstart file and running "yum update" safe? > Anyone run into problems with

Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps

2008-09-24 Thread MHR
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Niki Kovacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ralph Angenendt a écrit : >> >> And if all that could be discussed on rpmforge users mailing list >> *where* other people from the rpmforge community also read and post, it >> would have been even greater >:) > > Sorry for th

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 kickstart install with latest updates

2008-09-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
Venkatraju wrote: The CentOS 5.2 release notes contain this warning: "A kickstart installation that attempts to use the *repo* directive (where that *repo* points to an updates repository) may fail to properly install." In some tests we did at 5.2 install time we found that the updates faile

Re: [CentOS] new 4.7 i586 kernel not happy

2008-09-24 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Akemi Yagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Akemi Yagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>> If someone wants to s

Re: [CentOS] usb irq problem

2008-09-24 Thread partha chowdhury
MHR wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:02 PM, partha chowdhury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: well i managed to fix the problem after an intensive search through the forum and adding the noirqdebug option to the kernel line. Are you /sure/ this fixes the problem? Your last fix didn't work

[CentOS] changing installed kernel from i386 to i686

2008-09-24 Thread Jerry Geis
Hi all, If I initially installed a i386 kernel on centos 4.6 is it possible to migrate to i686 with yum (yes the box cpu is capable)? Can I just "yum install kernel2.6.9-78.EL.i686" and that will work? Will that magically bring in other needed libraries? Thanks, Jerry

RE: [CentOS] Centos and colocation....

2008-09-24 Thread RobertH
Good job Bob, Now you get to do it again for "redundancy" just in case the main box somehow croaks, ya gotta be auto failover redundant, or have a hot or cold spare sync'd Surprise! :-) Wake up and get to work! ;-> - rh ___ CentOS mailing list Cen

Re: [CentOS] changing installed kernel from i386 to i686

2008-09-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
Jerry Geis wrote: Hi all, If I initially installed a i386 kernel on centos 4.6 is it possible to migrate to i686 with yum (yes the box cpu is capable)? there is no i386 kernel in CentOS3/4/5 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.c

RE: [CentOS] Centos and colocation....

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> > Good job Bob, > > Now you get to do it again for "redundancy" just in case the > main box somehow croaks, ya gotta be auto failover redundant, > or have a hot or cold spare sync'd > > Surprise! > Don't even go therelol Still 10 times better than my dedicated ever could be. Proud o

[CentOS] problem with FTP server---solved

2008-09-24 Thread fabian dacunha
Dear ALl, here below is the problem i had earlier and had posted my problem to the list. thnks and appreciate all ur sugesstions but i did manage to solve googling arround right below i hav the solution may help someone arround >> Dear All, >> >> i have the following centos FTP local FTP server

[CentOS] Re: Centos and colocation....

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 9-24-2008 10:10 AM Bob Hoffman spake the following: Good job Bob, Now you get to do it again for "redundancy" just in case the main box somehow croaks, ya gotta be auto failover redundant, or have a hot or cold spare sync'd Surprise! Don't even go therelol Still 10 times better

Re: [CentOS] new 4.7 i586 kernel not happy

2008-09-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
Akemi Yagi wrote: Fixing the current i586 issue will help keep the value of CentOS high... :-D (hint, hint) Since Johnny is back in circulation, I'm going to let him fix it. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailm

[CentOS] Apache modules C4,5 repos

2008-09-24 Thread David Hrbáč
Hi, I have (re)built a few apache modules not included in distro nor rpmforge. http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el5/hrb/stable/i386/repodata/repoview/M.group.html http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb/stable/i386/repodata/repoview/M.group.html http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el5/hrb/stable/x86_64/repodata/repoview/M.

[CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
Okay, Yahoo is bumming me. Only system my mail is having an issue with. All mail is accepted, but junked. I can only think it is the DKIM/Domain keys. It is apparent that the dkim-milter is not part of the centos 5.x distro nor is it part of the mirrors, as far as I can tell. So...have any of you

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread RobertH
> Okay, > Yahoo is bumming me. Only system my mail is having an issue with. All mail > is accepted, but junked. I can only think it is the DKIM/Domain keys. > > It is apparent that the dkim-milter is not part of the centos 5.x distro > nor > is it part of the mirrors, as far as I can tell. > >

[CentOS] Re: changing installed kernel from i586 to i686

2008-09-24 Thread Jerry Geis
Jerry Geis wrote: >/ Hi all, />/ />/ If I initially installed a i386 kernel on centos 4.6 is it possible to />/ migrate to i686 with yum (yes the box cpu is capable)? />/ / there is no i386 kernel in CentOS3/4/5 Sorry my typo mistake I would be going from i586 to i686. Is that possible

[CentOS] Suspend to swap failing on OQO

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
error is: cpufreq: suspend failed to assert current frequency is what timing core thinks it is. I think this might be tied into one of the Unbutu install notes: ftp://ftp.oqo.com/unsupported/linux/OQOLinux.html ?? Really need to be able to suspend. ___

[CentOS] Centos installed on OQO mod 2

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Since I have a four of these units, and the XP recovery CD, I figured, "ah give it a go." And going through the Centos wiki, I found a simple piece I was missing: "linux text askmethod". There were a few problems I had with the text install: Disk Druid does not work with LVM partitions, mu

Re: [CentOS] new 4.7 i586 kernel not happy

2008-09-24 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Akemi Yagi wrote: >> >> Fixing the current i586 issue will help keep the value of CentOS high... >> :-D >> (hint, hint) > > Since Johnny is back in circulation, I'm going to let him fix it. > > - KB Terrific! I am going

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread John Hinton
Bob Hoffman wrote: Okay, Yahoo is bumming me. Only system my mail is having an issue with. All mail is accepted, but junked. I can only think it is the DKIM/Domain keys. It is apparent that the dkim-milter is not part of the centos 5.x distro nor is it part of the mirrors, as far as I can tell.

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
RobertH wrote: > > > > Okay, > > Yahoo is bumming me. Only system my mail is having an issue with. All mail > > is accepted, but junked. I can only think it is the DKIM/Domain keys. > > > > Setup proper SPF records for your domain(s) for one. That's supposed to help with what regarding his pro

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread John Kordash
> Okay, > Yahoo is bumming me. Only system my mail is having an issue > with. All mail > is accepted, but junked. I can only think it is the DKIM/Domain keys. Just a WAG, but make sure you have a PTR record for your machine that is sending email. If you actually got the bounce, check the headers

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Bob Hoffman wrote: > Okay, > Yahoo is bumming me. Only system my mail is having an issue with. All mail > is accepted, but junked. I can only think it is the DKIM/Domain keys. You might want to show some logs or other evidence if you want people to help you. Ralph pgpdUBgyDVKoY.pgp Description

[CentOS] Re: changing installed kernel from i586 to i686

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 9-24-2008 11:00 AM Jerry Geis spake the following: Jerry Geis wrote: >/ Hi all, />/ />/ If I initially installed a i386 kernel on centos 4.6 is it possible to />/ migrate to i686 with yum (yes the box cpu is capable)? />/ / there is no i386 kernel in CentOS3/4/5 Sorry my typo mistake I

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> I'm running sendmail. The single number one issue is to never > bounce email. Reject is fine, but if you have anything doing > bounce you'll likely wind up on their blocklist for a day or > few. Spammers love to use yahoo addresses as from addresses, > so if you are bouncing any mail, you'

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> > Setup proper SPF records for your domain(s) for one. > > That's supposed to help with what regarding his problem? OTOH > I have no idea which problem SPF solves anyway other than > making it harder for others to use your domain for fake > adresses (if receiving mail servers do some sort

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> > Just a WAG, but make sure you have a PTR record for your > machine that is sending email. > > If you actually got the bounce, check the headers, it is the > first best place to look. > No, no bounce. They get delivered. Just show up in the spam folder everytime. ___

[CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 9-24-2008 10:40 AM Bob Hoffman spake the following: Okay, Yahoo is bumming me. Only system my mail is having an issue with. All mail is accepted, but junked. I can only think it is the DKIM/Domain keys. It is apparent that the dkim-milter is not part of the centos 5.x distro nor is it part of

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> > You might want to show some logs or other evidence if you > want people to help you. > > Ralph You need logs to say you use DKIM/domain keys on your servers and how you did it, rpm or compile? Well, if it will help you tell me on your experience with DKIM I am up for it! YAHOO HEADERS

RE: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> > > > No, I do not want to install postfix, thank you - /ninja'd ya > AFAIR yahoo only looks for proper SPF records and then looks > at content so far. My users interact with them all the time. Good enough to go on. To start. I will pound out some spf's for the dns and see if it does anythi

Re: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Scott Silva wrote: > AFAIR yahoo only looks for proper SPF records and then looks at content > so far. My users interact with them all the time. Out of curiosity: What happens if you don't have SPF records? Ralph pgpG3d5Y7sflS.pgp Description: PGP signature _

[CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 9-24-2008 11:31 AM Bob Hoffman spake the following: I'm running sendmail. The single number one issue is to never bounce email. Reject is fine, but if you have anything doing bounce you'll likely wind up on their blocklist for a day or few. Spammers love to use yahoo addresses as from add

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
And to let you know what the gmail headers look like when downloaded via pop3 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from mail.bobhoffman.com (bobhoffman.com [72.35.68.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j13si11089358rne.4.2008.09.24.11.36.36; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:36:38 -0700

[CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 9-24-2008 11:41 AM Ralph Angenendt spake the following: Scott Silva wrote: AFAIR yahoo only looks for proper SPF records and then looks at content so far. My users interact with them all the time. Out of curiosity: What happens if you don't have SPF records? Ralph Initially when I had to d

RE: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> >> AFAIR yahoo only looks for proper SPF records and then looks at > >> content so far. My users interact with them all the time. > > > > Out of curiosity: What happens if you don't have SPF records? > > > > Ralph > Initially when I had to deal with sending to yahoo I would > get a mix o

[CentOS] Installing perl modules using yum?

2008-09-24 Thread Al Sparks
I'm trying to install swatch using rpmbuild. I'm getting dependency errors saying that I need perl(Date::Calc), perl(Date::Format), and perl(File::Tail). I've been beaten over the head in this group for using CPAN. So methodology do I use to I install those modules? === Al ___

Re: [CentOS] Installing perl modules using yum?

2008-09-24 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:16, Al Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm getting dependency errors saying that I need perl(Date::Calc), > perl(Date::Format), and perl(File::Tail). > > I've been beaten over the head in this group for using CPAN. So > methodology do I use to I install those modules

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread RobertH
> > That's supposed to help with what regarding his problem? OTOH I have no > idea > which problem SPF solves anyway other than making it harder for others to > use your domain for fake adresses (if receiving mail servers do some sort > of > check against SPF). > > Ralph Ralph, He asked for he

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread RobertH
> > I am pretty sure I am not bouncing mails...I have catchalls and they go to > devnull..however I could be wrong since that only affects my domain mails > only. I am sure there is something else I should do. > Bob I am not sure why or what your basic policy on it is yet I think it is better t

Re: [CentOS] usb irq problem

2008-09-24 Thread nate
partha chowdhury wrote: > i want to know one thing - the hardware failing logic you earlier spoke > of - is that disabled or removed in latest 2.6.26.5 kernel because i > experimented with custom compiling that kernel and did not receive any > error message whatsoever. Download the kernel sourc

Re: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread mouss
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Scott Silva wrote: AFAIR yahoo only looks for proper SPF records and then looks at content so far. My users interact with them all the time. Out of curiosity: What happens if you don't have SPF records? you'll be beaten to death by SPF fans. other than that, nothing.

Re: [CentOS] Installing perl modules using yum?

2008-09-24 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Filipe Brandenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:16, Al Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm getting dependency errors saying that I need perl(Date::Calc), >> perl(Date::Format), and perl(File::Tail). >> >> I've been beaten over the

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Andrew Norris
Back to the PTR RR: $ dig +short MX bobhoffman.com 10 mail.bobhoffman.com. $ dig +short A mail.bobhoffman.com 72.35.68.59 $ dig +short -x 72.35.68.59 bobhoffman.com. ^^^ mail.bobhoffman.com != bobhoffman.com This may not be your main problem, but it certainly

Re: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread mouss
Bob Hoffman wrote: AFAIR yahoo only looks for proper SPF records and then looks at content so far. My users interact with them all the time. Out of curiosity: What happens if you don't have SPF records? Ralph Initially when I had to deal with sending to yahoo I would get a mix of mail du

RE: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread RobertH
> > you'll be beaten to death by SPF fans. Isn't beating someone to death is too good for them in regards to spf fights? ;-> U actually, spf records can possibly just help the cause in general. There is no reason for people to get all bent outta shape in regards to SPF or DKIM or whateve

Re: [CentOS] Getting perl CGI programs to work on CentOS 5 server

2008-09-24 Thread Andrew Allen
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 18:57 -0400, Bob Beers wrote: > >> Check your web server logs to find out what went wrong. > >> > > Thanks everybody, but I still can't find the server log(s)! > maybe ... > ls /var/log/httpd/*log Many thanks for the help - problem solved! Andy ___

RE: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> Besides, in the OP case, SPF will change nothing for mail > getting out of his server, since his sender domain matches > his client domain (this is what gmail calls "guessed SPF"), > and in addition, his client is the MX of his domain, so he is > not going to forge his own domain on his ow

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread mouss
Andrew Norris wrote: Back to the PTR RR: $ dig +short MX bobhoffman.com 10 mail.bobhoffman.com. $ dig +short A mail.bobhoffman.com 72.35.68.59 $ dig +short -x 72.35.68.59 bobhoffman.com. ^^^ mail.bobhoffman.com != bobhoffman.com so what? mail.bobhoffman.co

RE: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread RobertH
> > prove what? > > if the machine with an rDNS of bobhoffman.com sends mail from > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, and is the MX of this domain, would anybody think > this is a forgery? > Mouss... I mean Ratatouille :-) Answer: Possibly Depends on many factors doesn't it? I know you are on other list

RE: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
I guess spf would help deal with the whole [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] issues. Sending from an application is not hard for the return, from and to and all that. But the received from headers are gotten by the receiving client going to sendmail for a helo/ehlo. However apache is the u

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> If we ignore the surrounding IPs (too many without rDNS), he > has a very simple setup, that should not cause any problems. > > generic PTRs are a different matter. Surrounding ips? A lot was from my computer to the smtp server..the rest was just mine. It is really simple, not much in ther

Re: [CentOS] NFS issues

2008-09-24 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Akemi Yagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Akemi Yagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> CentOS developer, Tru, compiled a patched version of regular kernel >> and is offering it at: >> >> http://people.centos.org/tru/kernel+bz453094/ >> >>

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread John Kordash
> Back to the PTR RR: > > $ dig +short MX bobhoffman.com > 10 mail.bobhoffman.com. > > $ dig +short A mail.bobhoffman.com > 72.35.68.59 > $ dig +short -x 72.35.68.59 > bobhoffman.com. > ^^^ > > mail.bobhoffman.com != bobhoffman.com Careful here. Email senders

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
RobertH wrote: > > Then I said > > "Setup proper SPF records for your domain(s) for one." > > Most properly setup mail servers do some sort of SPF checking nowadays and > use the info at SMTP time or later in something like spamassasssin scoring > etc That's probably the reason why much spam ha

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> > That's probably the reason why much spam has valid spf > records. Get yourself a throwaway domain, so you're getting > through the domain check and give that domain a valid spf > record which allows all machines in the world to send mail > for that domain. Voilà - valid SPF record. > >

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Andrew Norris wrote: > Back to the PTR RR: > > $ dig +short MX bobhoffman.com > 10 mail.bobhoffman.com. > > $ dig +short A mail.bobhoffman.com > 72.35.68.59 > $ dig +short -x 72.35.68.59 > bobhoffman.com. > ^^^ > > mail.bobhoffman.com != bobhoffman.com So why sh

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
I have to say, in the 7 months or so since I got into this whole linux webserver, this is the most active thread I have ever encountered. I would assume most of us are a little unsure about the whole dkim/spf/sender id thing. And even according to the websites themselves, they are not sure of the

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread mouss
Bob Hoffman wrote: If we ignore the surrounding IPs (too many without rDNS), he has a very simple setup, that should not cause any problems. generic PTRs are a different matter. Surrounding ips? A lot was from my computer to the smtp server..the rest was just mine. It is really simple, no

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread RobertH
> > That's probably the reason why much spam has valid spf records. Get > yourself > a throwaway domain, so you're getting through the domain check and give > that > domain a valid spf record which allows all machines in the world to send > mail for that domain. Voilà - valid SPF record. > > Tha

Re: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Scott Silva wrote: > on 9-24-2008 11:41 AM Ralph Angenendt spake the following: >> Scott Silva wrote: >>> AFAIR yahoo only looks for proper SPF records and then looks at >>> content so far. My users interact with them all the time. >> >> Out of curiosity: What happens if you don't have SPF records

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> > That's something different (and still bad, but Yahoo is one > of the gorillas who can decide not to follow RFCs when > receiving mails). But scoring mails down because you don't > like the hostname the PTR points to is plain bad and stupid. > At least they don't reject those mails. > >

[CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 9-24-2008 1:03 PM Bob Hoffman spake the following: Besides, in the OP case, SPF will change nothing for mail getting out of his server, since his sender domain matches his client domain (this is what gmail calls "guessed SPF"), and in addition, his client is the MX of his domain, so he is

Re: [CentOS] NFS issues

2008-09-24 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 13:38 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Akemi Yagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Akemi Yagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> CentOS developer, Tru, compiled a patched version of regular kernel > >> and is offering it

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Bob Hoffman wrote: > > I have to say, in the 7 months or so since I got into this whole linux > webserver, this is the most active thread I have ever encountered. > I would assume most of us are a little unsure about the whole > dkim/spf/sender id thing. And even according to the websites themsel

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> > $ host 72.35.68.56 > Host 56.68.35.72.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) $ host > 72.35.68.57 Host 57.68.35.72.in-addr.arpa. not found: > 3(NXDOMAIN) $ host 72.35.68.62 Host 62.68.35.72.in-addr.arpa. > not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > same for the IPs that don't belong to you in that netwo

Re: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread mouss
RobertH wrote: prove what? if the machine with an rDNS of bobhoffman.com sends mail from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, and is the MX of this domain, would anybody think this is a forgery? Mouss... I mean Ratatouille :-) I'm feeling hungry now! Answer: Possibly Depends on many factors doesn't it

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
RobertH wrote: > > That's why I asked which problem SPF is trying to solve. > > The SPF Qmail patch we use on CentOS Opsys has a special case for SPF from > ALL > > And we discard on that signal... I'd turn off the mail server if I don't want to get mails. So if I'm roaming and am not sure which

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Andrew Norris
John Kordash wrote: mail.bobhoffman.com != bobhoffman.com Careful here. Email senders have nothing to do with MX records. Email receivers do. I believe bobhoffman.com is the email sender in this case. I would doubt this is an issue. Any split in/out mail server is going to have a differe

[CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 9-24-2008 2:23 PM Ralph Angenendt spake the following: Bob Hoffman wrote: I have to say, in the 7 months or so since I got into this whole linux webserver, this is the most active thread I have ever encountered. I would assume most of us are a little unsure about the whole dkim/spf/sender i

RE: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
Apparently now when I send an email from my yahoo account to the server, it just disappears. So now yahoo is eating the mail going to me. Wonderful. Egads. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

[CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 9-24-2008 2:27 PM Ralph Angenendt spake the following: RobertH wrote: That's why I asked which problem SPF is trying to solve. The SPF Qmail patch we use on CentOS Opsys has a special case for SPF from ALL And we discard on that signal... I'd turn off the mail server if I don't want to ge

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread mouss
Bob Hoffman wrote: $ host 72.35.68.56 Host 56.68.35.72.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) $ host 72.35.68.57 Host 57.68.35.72.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) $ host 72.35.68.62 Host 62.68.35.72.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) same for the IPs that don't belong to you in that

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread mouss
Andrew Norris wrote: John Kordash wrote: mail.bobhoffman.com != bobhoffman.com Careful here. Email senders have nothing to do with MX records. Email receivers do. I believe bobhoffman.com is the email sender in this case. I would doubt this is an issue. Any split in/out mail server is g

Re: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread John Hinton
Andrew Norris wrote: John Kordash wrote: mail.bobhoffman.com != bobhoffman.com Careful here. Email senders have nothing to do with MX records. Email receivers do. I believe bobhoffman.com is the email sender in this case. I would doubt this is an issue. Any split in/out mail server is

[CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 9-24-2008 2:41 PM Bob Hoffman spake the following: Apparently now when I send an email from my yahoo account to the server, it just disappears. So now yahoo is eating the mail going to me. Wonderful. Egads. Are you positive that your server isn't eating it? -- MailScanner is like deodor

RE: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> > > > Egads. > Are you positive that your server isn't eating it? > I whitelisted yahoo in spam assassin. Now some of the domains can send mail and get junked, but the bobhoffman mail does not even get that far anymore. I think yahoo must be worried as to the new ip addresses for my site. M

RE: [CentOS] DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread John Kordash
> So his MTA is EHLOing as mail.bobhoffman.com > mail.bobhoffman.com resolves to 72.35.68.59 (matches the incoming ip) > 72.35.68.59 reverses to bobhoffman.com (which doesn't match the host) > > As far as I can tell this will hurt his score. > Or am I missing something? I don't know enough of the

Re: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread mouss
Bob Hoffman wrote: Apparently now when I send an email from my yahoo account to the server, it just disappears. So now yahoo is eating the mail going to me. can you try after changing your hostname from "mail.creativeprogramdesigners.com" to "bobhoffman.com". I mean the name that appears i

RE: [CentOS] Re: DKIM

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
> can you try after changing your hostname from > "mail.creativeprogramdesigners.com" to "bobhoffman.com". I > mean the name that appears in your greeting: > > $ telnet bobhoffman.com 25 > ... > 220 mail.creativeprogramdesigners.com ESMTP Sendmail ... > > You can only have one hostname for

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