Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-12 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:35:12 +0100 (BST) CentOS mailing list wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Robert Heller wrote: > > *snip* > > >>> The disk's *firmware* updated itself. So long as the *disk* is powered > >>> up and spinning, its *firmware* is 'running' (or runs when the disk is > >>> acces

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-12 Thread Keith Roberts
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Robert Heller wrote: *snip* >>> The disk's *firmware* updated itself. So long as the *disk* is powered >>> up and spinning, its *firmware* is 'running' (or runs when the disk is >>> accessed or something like that). Modern disks are a long, long way >>> from the simple MFM

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-12 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:36:25 +0100 (BST) CentOS mailing list wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Robert Heller wrote: > > > The disk's *firmware* updated itself. So long as the *disk* is powered > > up and spinning, its *firmware* is 'running' (or runs when the disk is > > accessed or something l

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-12 Thread Keith Roberts
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Robert Heller wrote: > The disk's *firmware* updated itself. So long as the *disk* is powered > up and spinning, its *firmware* is 'running' (or runs when the disk is > accessed or something like that). Modern disks are a long, long way > from the simple MFM drives of the 19

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-12 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 08:11:58 -0400 Robert Heller wrote: > The disk's *firmware* updated itself. ... > Appearently, palimpsest does some of what smartctl does: accesses the > SMART data on the drive. This is completely independent of smartd. > Smartd is a daemon that runs in the background and

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-12 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:24:23 -0600 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 04:05:47 + > Joseph L. Casale wrote: > > > I think you misunderstood the first reply: smartd, as in the init script is > > a > > means to alert root of pending issues, _it_ doesn't present the data, _tha

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>Which still doesn't answer my question. Perhaps I'm wording it poorly -- I'll >try again: Perhaps palimpsest runs smartctl and queries the device itself? Perhaps it borrowed code from the project and runs the query itself? I don't have any servers with GUI's, couldn't tell you... _

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 04:05:47 + Joseph L. Casale wrote: > I think you misunderstood the first reply: smartd, as in the init script is a > means to alert root of pending issues, _it_ doesn't present the data, _that_ > init script simply checks it and reports it. You don't need it running to > ma

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>As smartd isn't running in the default Centos configuration, where does >palimpsest get its information? Is it a self-contained program that doesn't >require smartd or is something else happening behind the scenes? I think you misunderstood the first reply: smartd, as in the init script is a me

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:42:46 -0400 Robert Heller wrote: > Almost all modern disk are S.M.A.R.T capable. What this means is that > various information about the disk, mostly relating to its health can be > monitored. This includes things like sector errors. If smartd is > running root will get E

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-11 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:57:59 -0600 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > I notice that the smartd service is not running by default on a new > installation. But palimpsest seems to get updated statistics every so often as > when I check the statistics on a drive it says "last updated" some number of >