Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems -- SOLVED

2011-10-06 Thread Negative
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Negative wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Negative wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Negative wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:00 PM, wrote: >>> Negative wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, wrote: > Negative wrote: >>>

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Negative
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Negative wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Negative wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:00 PM, wrote: >> >>> Negative wrote: >>> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, wrote: >>> > Negative wrote: >>> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, wrote: >>> >> Negative

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Negative
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Negative wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:00 PM, wrote: > >> Negative wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, wrote: >> > Negative wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, wrote: >> >> Negative wrote: >> >> >> > I still wonder what is causing this. I

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems, gnow, Gnome 3

2011-10-05 Thread m . roth
Negative wrote: > Now I, too, can start complaining about Gnome 3. I've read it's like > Windows, but it's the spitting image of the Mac OS. Maybe, but I was having to deal with it on a user's fedora 15 machine, and I ACTIVELY dislike it, with it's scroll-over-and-the-transparent-menu-fades-in cr

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Negative
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:00 PM, wrote: > Negative wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, wrote: > > Negative wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, wrote: > >> Negative wrote: > > >> > I still wonder what is causing this. I couldn't find any mention of a > >> > similar problem, inclu

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 10/05/11 11:14 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > The whole point of the GPL is to require the release of source (to > anyone who gets binaries) of any derived work. Kernel modules aren't > strictly considered to be derived from the kernel, although there has > been some speculation that they could be.

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Home Account
On 2011-10-05, at 12:14 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:36 PM, wrote: >> Yeah, well, the RHEL stuff I assume is released; their own heavy enhancements, I don't know. >>> >>> It doesn't matter if someone else released source. Anyone >>> distributing binaries con

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:36 PM, wrote: > >>> Yeah, well, the RHEL stuff I assume is released; their own heavy >>> enhancements, I don't know. >> >> It doesn't matter if someone else released source.  Anyone >> distributing binaries containing GPL code is supposed to also supply >> the matching s

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:16 PM, wrote: >> It was - the docs for the version that was around in early '09 *said* that the latest release was based on RHEL 3. >>> >>> You are supposed to be able to download the open source components >>> here: >>> http://downloads.v

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:16 PM, wrote: > >>> It was - the docs for the version that was around in early '09 *said* >>> that the latest release was based on RHEL 3. >> >> You are supposed to be able to download the open source components here: >> http://downloads.vmware.com/d/info/datacenter_clou

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:01 PM, wrote: >> >> It was - the docs for the version that was around in early '09 *said* >> that the latest release was based on RHEL 3. > > You are supposed to be able to download the open source components here: > http://downloads.vmware.com/d/in

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:01 PM, wrote: > > It was - the docs for the version that was around in early '09 *said* that > the latest release was based on RHEL 3. > You are supposed to be able to download the open source components here: http://downloads.vmware.com/d/info/datacenter_cloud_infrastr

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:02 AM, wrote: >>> You could use VMware server or player as an alternative to kvm under >>> Centos.  VMware ESXi loads as the base OS, so you have to wipe >>> everything and start over.  The latest release (5.0) claims that >>> virtualization can be

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread m . roth
Negative wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, wrote: > Negative wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, wrote: >> Negative wrote: >> > I still wonder what is causing this. I couldn't find any mention of a >> > similar problem, including on my desktop in my office, where I have a >> > very

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Stephen Harris
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 11:31:29AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:02 AM, wrote: > >> Centos. ?VMware ESXi loads as the base OS, so you have to wipe > >> everything and start over. ?The latest release (5.0) claims that > >> virtualization can be 'nested' - that is you could

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:02 AM, wrote: >> You could use VMware server or player as an alternative to kvm under >> Centos.  VMware ESXi loads as the base OS, so you have to wipe >> everything and start over.  The latest release (5.0) claims that >> virtualization can be 'nested' - that is you cou

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Negative > wrote: >>> >> VMware's a possibility. Would I need to remove the kvm package?  Do I >> have to keep libvirtd off? >> > You could use VMware server or player as an alternative to kvm under > Centos. VMware ESXi loads as the base OS,

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Negative wrote: >> > VMware's a possibility. Would I need to remove the kvm package?  Do I have > to keep libvirtd off? > You could use VMware server or player as an alternative to kvm under Centos. VMware ESXi loads as the base OS, so you have to wipe everything

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread m . roth
Negative wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, wrote: > >> Negative wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:00 AM, wrote: >> >> Les Mikesell wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Negative >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> So now I've found I can run X without problems and I can run >>

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Negative
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, wrote: > Negative wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:00 AM, wrote: > >> Les Mikesell wrote: > >> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Negative > >> > wrote: > >> > >> >> So now I've found I can run X without problems and I can run qemu-kvm > >> >> without proble

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread m . roth
Negative wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:00 AM, wrote: >> Les Mikesell wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Negative >> > wrote: >> >> >> So now I've found I can run X without problems and I can run qemu-kvm >> >> without problems, but I cannot run both at the same time. >> > >> > 'X'

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread m . roth
Negative wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:00 AM, wrote: >> Les Mikesell wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Negative >> > wrote: >> >> >> So now I've found I can run X without problems and I can run qemu-kvm >> >> without problems, but I cannot run both at the same time. >> > >> > 'X'

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread m . roth
Negative wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:00 AM, wrote: >> Les Mikesell wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Negative >> > wrote: >> >> >> So now I've found I can run X without problems and I can run qemu-kvm >> >> without problems, but I cannot run both at the same time. >> > >> > 'X'

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Negative
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:00 AM, wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Negative > > wrote: > > >> So now I've found I can run X without problems and I can run qemu-kvm > >> without problems, but I cannot run both at the same time. > > > > 'X' should be split cleanly i

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Negative > wrote: >> So now I've found I can run X without problems and I can run qemu-kvm >> without problems, but I cannot run both at the same time. > > 'X' should be split cleanly into client and server programs where in > X-speak the ser

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Negative wrote: >> Not sure what that means.   Freenx would at least keep the sesson >> active when you disconnect. >> > > I was trying to say, but not very well, that when qemu-kvm is running a > guest and X is running, whether it's on the local video hardware or

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-05 Thread Negative
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Negative > wrote: > > > >> Do you have to use the local video at all? What happens if you use > >> freenx and run in a session started from a remote NX client? > >> > > > > Doesn't freenx use X? I haven't in

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Negative wrote: > >> Do you have to use the local video at all?   What happens if you use >> freenx and run in a session started from a remote NX client? >> > > Doesn't freenx use X? I haven't installed but will try it. Yes, it uses X, but it doesn't use the local

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-04 Thread Negative
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Negative > wrote: > > > > > Since the crashes can be duplicated and are only caused by this one > > combination of events, I don't know. > > > > On another machine, I had a case where none of the kvm guests wou

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Negative wrote: > > > Since the crashes can be duplicated and are only caused by this one > combination of events, I don't know. > > On another machine, I had a case where none of the kvm guests would boot. It > turned out to be a conflict between libvirt and the nv

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-04 Thread Negative
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, wrote: > Negative wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:18 PM, wrote: > >> Negative wrote: > >> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: > >> >> Brian Mathis wrote: > >> >> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Negative > >> >> > > >> >> > wrote: > >> I built g

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-04 Thread Toby Bluhm
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Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-04 Thread m . roth
Negative wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:18 PM, wrote: >> Negative wrote: >> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: >> >> Brian Mathis wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Negative >> > > >> >> > wrote: >> I built guest vm's one for Windows 7 and one for Windows XP using >> >

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-04 Thread Negative
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:18 PM, wrote: > Negative wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: > >> Brian Mathis wrote: > >> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Negative > > >> > wrote: > I built guest vm's one for Windows 7 and one for Windows XP using the > virtual machine mana

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-04 Thread m . roth
Negative wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: >> Brian Mathis wrote: >> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Negative >> > wrote: I built guest vm's one for Windows 7 and one for Windows XP using the virtual machine manager on a  just updated to centos 5.7, and they are

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-04 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Negative wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: > >> Brian Mathis wrote: >> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Negative >> > wrote: >> >> I built guest vm's one for Windows 7 and one for Windows XP using the >> >> virtual machine manager on a  just upd

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-04 Thread Negative
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: > Brian Mathis wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Negative > > wrote: > >> I built guest vm's one for Windows 7 and one for Windows XP using the > >> virtual machine manager on a  just updated to centos 5.7, and they are > >> both crashing the ho

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-04 Thread m . roth
Brian Mathis wrote: > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Negative > wrote: >> I built guest vm's one for Windows 7 and one for Windows XP using the >> virtual machine manager on a  just updated to centos 5.7, and they are >> both crashing the host machine. They run only  for a few minutes, but >>

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-04 Thread Brian Mathis
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Negative wrote: > I built guest vm's one for Windows 7 and one for Windows XP using the > virtual machine manager on a  just updated to centos 5.7, and they are both > crashing the host machine. They run only  for a few minutes, but suddenly > freeze, crashing the

Re: [CentOS] guest vms crash host systems

2011-10-03 Thread Digimer
On 10/03/2011 10:16 PM, Negative wrote: > I built guest vm's one for Windows 7 and one for Windows XP using the > virtual machine manager on a just updated to centos 5.7, and they are both > crashing the host machine. They run only for a few minutes, but suddenly > freeze, crashing the host. The