Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-11 Thread John Hodrien
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: > On 7/8/11, Les Mikesell wrote: >> On 7/8/2011 9:45 AM, John Hodrien wrote: >>> >>> I was curious, so *did* find out what the cause was, and it's entirely not >>> CentOS's fault. It's very hard to shoot blindly given that the cause was >>> likely n

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-09 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 7/8/11, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 7/8/2011 9:45 AM, John Hodrien wrote: >> >> I was curious, so *did* find out what the cause was, and it's entirely not >> CentOS's fault. It's very hard to shoot blindly given that the cause was >> likely not to be CentOS. That only left his autoconf files, an

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-09 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/8/2011 9:45 AM, John Hodrien wrote: > > I was curious, so *did* find out what the cause was, and it's entirely not > CentOS's fault. It's very hard to shoot blindly given that the cause was > likely not to be CentOS. That only left his autoconf files, and tracing > configure made it quite ea

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: >> window and send that. I guess far too many people have been trained >> away from textual interactions with a computer -- they only understand >> *graphical* interaction with a computer. > > I guess you are right about that. But what's really sad is that it is > not ju

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 7/9/11, Robert Heller wrote: > I don't believe it is possible to copy and paste the text from many > error message popups (I am pretty certain you can't from a standard Of course, for those cases, I understand perfectly why somebody would opt to take a screenshot. In the cases that left me stu

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 9 Jul 2011 02:55:32 +0800 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > On 7/9/11, John R Pierce wrote: > > On 07/08/11 10:20 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: > >> ...does[n't] stop him from doing development, it shouldn't > >> stop him from doing something like copy and paste. > > > > A couple weeks ago

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 7/9/11, John R Pierce wrote: > On 07/08/11 10:20 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: >> ...does[n't] stop him from doing development, it shouldn't >> stop him from doing something like copy and paste. > > A couple weeks ago, on a technical support IRC forum (I forget if it was > #solaris or #postgres

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread John J. Boyer
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 06:29:18PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > As I can see, liblouisxml does not exist neither for Fedora and CentOS > (EPEL) so it would be good if someone could make sure spec file is > created and some maintainer takes over (existing of the

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/08/11 10:20 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: > ...does[n't] stop him from doing development, it shouldn't > stop him from doing something like copy and paste. A couple weeks ago, on a technical support IRC forum (I forget if it was #solaris or #postgres or what), some guy came on and wanted us

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 7/8/11, Mauriat Miranda wrote: > I was tempted to read his website. He is a 75 yr old man who is deaf and > blind. I knew that, checked it when he first started on the list. Knowing that he was doing this work despite being deaf and blind was why I even bothered to respond. Since he might just

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> This suggests, to me, cutting a little slack for the man. >> >> About his hearing implant, which enables him to hear sound but not >> understand speech: "If I am in a noisy place it is nice to be able to >> turn off my hearing." I have wishe

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > This suggests, to me, cutting a little slack for the man. > > About his hearing implant, which enables him to hear sound but not > understand speech: "If I am in a noisy place it is nice to be able to > turn off my hearing." I have wished I could switch off my hearing,

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin > wrote: > >> "Building" a simple test case in this situation is as simple as >> narrowing down the steps and changes leading to the problem. Your >> refusal to provide relevant information probably wasted more

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread Mauriat Miranda
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: > "Building" a simple test case in this situation is as simple as > narrowing down the steps and changes leading to the problem. Your > refusal to provide relevant information probably wasted more time than > anything else. One is almost

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: > You claim to be a software developer so surely you realize the > importance of relevant information to assist in > debugging/troubleshooting. Yet what you're doing is the equivalent of > complaining "My program won't run, it just stops with an error at this > point", the

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread John Hodrien
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: > Mr Hodrien already demonstrated how to provide the information. Could > you not at least follow suit, copy and paste the relevant commands > leading up to the problem? If you had done so, he would had known the > problem occurred after that point and

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 7/8/11, John J. Boyer wrote: > Below is a repost of the message I sent about the strange error message > I was getting when trying to build my project on CentOS. I am a software > developer and don't have time to compare distros. You claim to be a software developer so surely you realize the i

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
John J. Boyer wrote: > Below is a repost of the message I sent about the strange error message > I was getting when trying to build my project on CentOS. I am a software > developer and don't have time to compare distros. I am also not an > autotools expert. The autotools files in my project were l

Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-08 Thread lhecking
> The only thing I can do is explain how to reproduce the error. However, > this would be time-consuming for anyone trying to do so. Sorry, I think You are already wasting everybody's time here. There are people on this list willing to help but you keep waffling without providing even the min