Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-28 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 7/28/2010 12:19 AM, Nataraj wrote: > > Are there any advantages to running FreeNX over vncserver? Does it > perform better? I have run both. On a local network, they are about the same. Over the Internet, FreeNX is much more responsive. -- Bowie __

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-28 Thread Les Mikesell
Nataraj wrote: > Stephen Harris wrote: >> Even another ISP may not help so much. I have Verizon FIOS and am based on >> the East Coast. There's a 92ms delay to reach my linode, in Fremont. >> Any message the X client sends to the server and then waits for a reply would >> have approx 200ms round

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-28 Thread John Doe
From: Nataraj > Are there any advantages to running FreeNX over vncserver? Does it > perform better? Unless I am mistaken: VNC traffic is bitmap (whole screen or part of the screen, optionaly compressed) transfered at each refresh. FreeNX is compressed/cached XWindow traffic. I think, alth

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-27 Thread Nataraj
Stephen Harris wrote: > Even another ISP may not help so much. I have Verizon FIOS and am based on > the East Coast. There's a 92ms delay to reach my linode, in Fremont. > Any message the X client sends to the server and then waits for a reply would > have approx 200ms round trip time. I doesn't

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:17:45 +0800 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 19:35, Stephen Harris wrote: > >> Which shows it's working... but painfully slowly. Bandwidth and especially > >> latency is killing you. > >> > > > > Other than getting a new ISP

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 19:35, Stephen Harris wrote: >>> Which shows it's working... but painfully slowly. Bandwidth and especially >>> latency is killing you. >>> >> Other than getting a new ISP, is there anything that I can do about the

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 19:35, Stephen Harris wrote: >> Which shows it's working... but painfully slowly. Bandwidth and especially >> latency is killing you. >> > > Other than getting a new ISP, is there anything that I can do about the > latency? I can smoothly run X over

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 08:46:08PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 19:35, Stephen Harris wrote: > > Which shows it's working... but painfully slowly. ??Bandwidth and especially > > latency is killing you. > Other than getting a new ISP, is there anything that I can do about th

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Dotan Cohen wrote: > >>> EPEL is generally known to not overwrite distro files, but when it >>> starts showing conflicts with the CentOS extras repo, that needs an >>> additional note. >> I think the point is that CentOS isn't 'the distro' that epel doesn't >> overwrite. >> And it really makes m

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 20:29, Les Mikesell wrote: > Akemi Yagi wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> >>> You need to be somewhat careful these days about things that came from >>> centos-testing or extras as some now also appear in epel with the same >>> names and >>

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 19:35, Stephen Harris wrote: > Which shows it's working... but painfully slowly.  Bandwidth and especially > latency is killing you. > Other than getting a new ISP, is there anything that I can do about the latency? > FreeNX is designed to work around this by reducing th

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> You need to be somewhat careful these days about things that came from >> centos-testing or extras as some now also appear in epel with the same names >> and >> version number that aren't likely to be coordinated. I h

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > You need to be somewhat careful these days about things that came from > centos-testing or extras as some now also appear in epel with the same names > and > version number that aren't likely to be coordinated.  I haven't seen anything > act

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> What you are trying should work without running X at the console, but you >> might >> like the freenx/NX client even better. That gives you a complete remote X >> desktop with very good performance that you can discon

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 07:23:03PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I don't. After 15 minutes the square of the supposed Firefox window > came up. That's painful! But therein lies the problem. Which shows it's working... but painfully slowly. Bandwidth and especially latency is killing you. FreeNX is

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 19:14, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> What you are trying should work without running X at the console, but you >> might >> like the freenx/NX client even better.  That gives you a complete remote X >> desktop with very good

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 18:38, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: > Dotan, > > On 25 July 2010 16:32, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> However, when I do this I get no response (no firefox window opens, no >> terminal output), even after several minutes. I figured that was >> because X is not running. > That's not the r

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > What you are trying should work without running X at the console, but you > might > like the freenx/NX client even better.  That gives you a complete remote X > desktop with very good performance that you can disconnect and reconnect with >

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 18:26, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: >> I'm not sure what you are trying to do. Using VNC server or ssh with >> X11 tunneling (-X or -Y) would make more sense. >> You don't need X itself running for either of these. >> > > Yes, my intention is to ssh in then r

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
Dotan, On 25 July 2010 16:32, Dotan Cohen wrote: > However, when I do this I get no response (no firefox window opens, no > terminal output), even after several minutes. I figured that was > because X is not running. That's not the reason. You don't run X on the server for such purposes. You alre

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Christoph Maser
Am 25.07.2010 17:15, schrieb Dotan Cohen: > Note that my goal is to start > X, then ssh in and run Firefox remotely from a Fedora desktop. The > server itself has no monitor. > > Thanks in advance for any advice. > For that you do not need an X server on the remote machine all you need is X11

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 18:26, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: > I'm not sure what you are trying to do. Using VNC server or ssh with > X11 tunneling (-X or -Y) would make more sense. > You don't need X itself running for either of these. > Yes, my intention is to ssh in then run the app like this: local$

Re: [CentOS] Enabling X on headless server via network

2010-07-25 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 25 July 2010 16:15, Dotan Cohen wrote: > experiments. Should I post the logfiles? Note that my goal is to start > X, then ssh in and run Firefox remotely from a Fedora desktop. The > server itself has no monitor. I'm not sure what you are trying to do. Using VNC server or ssh with X11 tunneling