Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-22 Thread JohnS
On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 09:25 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote: > >-Original Message- > >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf > >Of JohnS > >Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:42 PM > >To: CentOS mailing list > >Subject: Re: [

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-22 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of JohnS >Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:42 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed > >> It's eithe

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-21 Thread JohnS
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 10:02 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote: > >-Original Message- > >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf > >Of JohnS > >Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:39 PM > >To: CentOS mailing list > >Subject: Re

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of JohnS >Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:39 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed > > >> Basically,

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread JohnS
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 14:43 -0400, Robert Heller wrote: > At Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:20:16 +0200 CentOS mailing list > wrote: > > > > > Robert Heller wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:21:01 -0400: > > > > > If MS-Windows can't install itself on the first drive (as seen by the > > > BIOS eg /dev/hda(1)

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:20:16 +0200 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > Robert Heller wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:21:01 -0400: > > > If MS-Windows can't install itself on the first drive (as seen by the > > BIOS eg /dev/hda(1) or /dev/sda(1)), it won't install. > > I think it can install the syste

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Toby Bluhm wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:47:26 -0400: > What makes you think mine is broken? because you didn't know who I replied to. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ Cen

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Robert Heller wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:21:01 -0400: > If MS-Windows can't install itself on the first drive (as seen by the > BIOS eg /dev/hda(1) or /dev/sda(1)), it won't install. I think it can install the system to the other drive, but it will want to write the bootloader on the first dri

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:28:45 -0400 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > Sorin Srbu wrote: > > > > Apparantely Windows can bork up after a while if the system files aren't on > > C:. I was thinking the Windows installer will see the linux partitions and > > try to name them C: and D: etc, thus Window

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread JohnS
On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 14:08 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to deploy a solution with dual-booting systems where CentOS 5.3 is > already installed and WinXP will be installed to a separate disk. > > I found > http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_install

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Guy Boisvert
Toby Bluhm wrote: > Kai Schaetzl wrote: >> Sorin Srbu wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:37:53 +0200: >> >>> How do you mean broken? >> Sorin, why do you think I replied to you? The person using the broken >> configuration is "David G. Miller". > > I didn't know who you were talking about either. It's

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Guy Boisvert
Sorin Srbu wrote: > > Isn't reinstalling GAG the same thing as reinstalling grub. What's the > incentive so to speak? Is GAG so much better, or just easier to work with > than grub? > Easier. GAG has its own boot media (diskette or cd). It has a graphical interface and is very easy. Guy Bo

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Guy Boisvert
Sorin Srbu wrote: > > Apparantely Windows can bork up after a while if the system files aren't on > C:. I was thinking the Windows installer will see the linux partitions and > try to name them C: and D: etc, thus Windows will be installed on E: or F:, > which might not go down well with some prog

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Toby Bluhm
Toby Bluhm wrote: > Kai Schaetzl wrote: >> Toby Bluhm wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:46:14 -0400: >> >>> I didn't know who you were talking about either. It's good to point out >>> the problem, but maybe next time leave some text clue as to whom you are >>> referring. >> why? The threading makes it

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Toby Bluhm
Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Toby Bluhm wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:46:14 -0400: > >> I didn't know who you were talking about either. It's good to point out >> the problem, but maybe next time leave some text clue as to whom you are >> referring. > > why? The threading makes it quite clear who I rep

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Kai Schaetzl
John R Pierce wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:34:49 -0700: > odder, I don't see a "In-Reply-To:" header, so I dunno HOW it appears > threaded just fine. It's been put in the thread according to the time sequence because the header you mention is missing. So, it just *appears* to be threaded, but

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Toby Bluhm wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:46:14 -0400: > I didn't know who you were talking about either. It's good to point out > the problem, but maybe next time leave some text clue as to whom you are > referring. why? The threading makes it quite clear who I replied to. Or is your client bro

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Toby Bluhm
Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Sorin Srbu wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:37:53 +0200: > >> How do you mean broken? > > Sorin, why do you think I replied to you? The person using the broken > configuration is "David G. Miller". I didn't know who you were talking about either. It's good to point out the pr

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread John R Pierce
Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Sorin Srbu wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:37:53 +0200: > > >> How do you mean broken? >> > > Sorin, why do you think I replied to you? The person using the broken > configuration is "David G. Miller". > odd, David Miller's message appears threaded just fine on my Th

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Sorin Srbu wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:16:33 +0200: > Apparantely Windows can bork up after a while if the system files aren't on > C:. No, that is a myth. You just cannot put the system drive on an extended partition, it has to be a primary partition. If that is the first non-Linux partition

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Sorin Srbu wrote on Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:37:53 +0200: > How do you mean broken? Sorin, why do you think I replied to you? The person using the broken configuration is "David G. Miller". Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Lanny Marcus >Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:06 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed > >There is a

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of David G. Miller >Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:33 PM >To: centos@centos.org >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed > >Windows

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Kai Schaetzl >Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:31 PM >To: centos@centos.org >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed > >> inst

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Kai Schaetzl >Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:16 PM >To: centos@centos.org >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed > >> Generally

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Guy Boisvert >Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed > >As for Winbl

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Kai Schaetzl >Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:33 PM >To: centos@centos.org >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed > >Sorin Srbu wrot

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Kai Schaetzl
could you please switch to a less broken client that supports threading? (I know that Thunderbord supports threading, but that version or client that you use does not.) Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com _

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Guy Boisvert
Toby Bluhm wrote: > David G. Miller wrote: > > I installed Win7 beta on the open partition at the end of my laptop disk > and had to dd restore the mbr so I could boot to Centos again. > > It's amazing that after all these years of multi-booting PCs, MS still > arrogantly stomps all over your s

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Guy Boisvert
David G. Miller wrote: > "Sorin Srbu" wrote: > > The problem with suggestions to just install Windows and then either use > another boot loader or repair the grub installation is that you are > stuck doing that work through Windows. GAG is a standalone boot disquette / boot CD. It doesn't nee

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Lanny Marcus
On 4/16/09, Toby Bluhm wrote: > David G. Miller wrote: >> "Sorin Srbu" wrote: >> As noted in other replies, Windows not not play well with anything >> else. Your best bet would be to disable/remove/disconnect the drive > > I installed Win7 beta on the open partition at the end of my laptop disk

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Toby Bluhm
David G. Miller wrote: > "Sorin Srbu" wrote: > . . . > As noted in other replies, Windows not not play well with anything > else. Your best bet would be to disable/remove/disconnect the drive I installed Win7 beta on the open partition at the end of my laptop disk and had to dd restore the m

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Les Mikesell
David G. Miller wrote: > The problem with suggestions to just install Windows and then either use > another boot loader or repair the grub installation is that you are > stuck doing that work through Windows. My experience has been that > Windows isn't as easy to work with for making changes t

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread David G. Miller
"Sorin Srbu" wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to deploy a solution with dual-booting systems where CentOS 5.3 is > already installed and WinXP will be installed to a separate disk. > > I found > http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm?page=1 > > and it s

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Victor Padro wrote on Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:45:04 -0500: > install windows xp then install easyBCD and make the dual boot work without > changing any file on any OS. Of course you change files. But it works as well, yes, just checked it out. I wasn't aware of this, although I have EasyBCD already

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Sorin Srbu wrote on Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:03:53 +0200: > Generally speaking, which one is the easiest and/or safest if time is an > issue > and you want to things fast and streamlined doing this, grub-install or > backup > and restore MBR. That is assuming I don't screw up when I do either and

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Guy Boisvert
Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Sorin Srbu wrote on Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:08:57 +0200: > >> Basically, what would I need to change in the how-to from apcmag.com above?? > > It's like that tutorial says. Forget about backing up grub.conf. This is > nonsense. You want to make a backup before changing it, just

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Victor Padro
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Sorin Srbu wrote on Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:35:40 +0200: > > > Googled some more. Realised /boot/grub/menu.lst *is* /etc/grub.conf... > Duh! > > You want to change /boot/grub/grub.conf, nothing else ! > > > > > Also some people say it's better to

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Sorin Srbu wrote on Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:35:40 +0200: > Googled some more. Realised /boot/grub/menu.lst *is* /etc/grub.conf... Duh! You want to change /boot/grub/grub.conf, nothing else ! > > Also some people say it's better to have Windows installed to the first > harddrive and the first partit

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Kai Schaetzl >Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:32 PM >To: centos@centos.org >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed > >Instead of us

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Guy Boisvert >Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:45 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed > >As for Winbl

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Guy Boisvert
Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Sorin Srbu wrote on Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:08:57 +0200: > >> Basically, what would I need to change in the how-to from apcmag.com above?? > > It's like that tutorial says. Forget about backing up grub.conf. This is > nonsense. You want to make a backup before changing it, just

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Sorin Srbu wrote on Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:08:57 +0200: > Basically, what would I need to change in the how-to from apcmag.com above?? It's like that tutorial says. Forget about backing up grub.conf. This is nonsense. You want to make a backup before changing it, just in case, but not because of t

Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Sorin Srbu >Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:09 PM >To: 'CentOS mailing list' >Subject: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed > >I'd like to deploy a solution with dual-bo