Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-18 Thread centos
Can we drop this topic, it comes up very month or so, and with more than a 100 emails... -- Thanks http://www.911networks.com When the network has to work ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-18 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 08:00 -0700, Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > I actually DO subscribe to this list via gmail. However, I seldom bother > doing so through webmail, because I like my information to come to me, > rather than spending my time logging on, waiting for pages to refresh, etc. > My exper

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-17 Thread William L. Maltby
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 20:55 -0400, Matt Shields wrote: > > I think the thing that's annoying about top posting is explained with > this example (grabbed from a Boston Linux & Unix Group signature). > I'll have to admit when I'm not thinking about it, there have been a > few times where I've top p

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Matt Shields
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: >> Dear Mr. Singh: >> >> I understand you prefer this medium. I have practical experience with >> alternatives that have offered measurable and definite benefits to the >> communities they

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi, Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > Dear Mr. Singh: > > I understand you prefer this medium. I have practical experience with > alternatives that have offered measurable and definite benefits to the > communities they serve. Which is quite fair, and the point I was making as well. However, the poit I

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Doug Tucker wrote: >> I'd give you 40 technical reasons why forums are not nearly as productive as >> lists, but I cant be asked really. > > Common thread to all of this, is that we are all individuals with > different work flows that work better for us. What puzzles me, is why > people are so r

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
William Warren wrote: > Beyond casutic...who's slaging here karanbir? He expressed his opinion > and last time i checked there wasn't a rule against that. While your > reply was inflamatory you also have the right to fire back..however > saying it's not ok to do something that wasn't against any

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Paul Heinlein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I love alpine. It works with UTF-8 so you can read spam in the original > Hebrew or Chinese, but it's text-only so you avoid NSFW images. You get > foreign language practice in an HR-acceptable manner. Woohoo! Yes, alpine

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 16 May 2008, R P Herrold wrote: There's the problem, Les !! -- the pine (now, alpine) editor, pico, does not work that way. Fortunately, [al]pine will honor an EDITOR environment variable for those preferring a different editor, so one can go nuts, and even, say, use emacs. I love a

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Les Mikesell
Jason Pyeron wrote: I just wish I could configure my outlook ... Configure it? Don't you know how to move the cursor? The point is that you are supposed to delete the irrelevant context as you move down, replying underneath the parts you leave so it lands it the right place conversation-wise

RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Carol Anne Ogdin
Thanks, Steve. I dunno how I missed that source. --Carol Anne > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Huff > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:19 AM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread MHR
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:01 AM, John R Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > with ~ 60-70 messages since midnight last night?!? 100+ email messages/day > is a fairly busy email list by any standards. > > but, yes, I'd rather go to the library and read a well written book than > hang out at a pa

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread John R Pierce
Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: And, yes, I know there's an archive of posts to this forum, but the question is one of focus: Do you hold more value for a lively (virtual) meeting with lots of participants, or a quiet library where information is archived? This medium feels to me more like the latter.

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Les Mikesell
Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: Les Mikesell questioned, "...who would go there to post any answers?" The answer is the same people who share here...and probably many more who find this sparse medium harder to navigate. There's a thriving community I helped create and nurture, which I've described at h

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Doug Tucker
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 02:06 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > > Jumping in late here: I sincerely wish that this list was maintained on any > > of the quality "bulletin board" or "Forum" tools. It would reduce my eMail > > load, allow me to zoom in on just the issues of int

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread jleaver+centos
And, yes, I know there's an archive of posts to this forum, but the question is one of focus: Do you hold more value for a lively (virtual) meeting with lots of participants, or a quiet library where information is archived? This medium feels to me more like the latter. --Carol Anne It's a

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Carol Anne Ogdin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Les Mikesell questioned, "...who would go there to post any answers?" The > answer is the same people who share here...and probably many more who find > this sparse medium harder to navigate. I, for one, would be unlik

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Steve Huff
On May 16, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: Your opinions are louder than your putative experience. Unfortunately, in 51 years in the computer industry, I've sometimes had to cope with behaviors like yours. It still makes me sad to experience such unhappy people who think that

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Tru Huynh
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:00:59AM -0700, Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > I actually DO subscribe to this list via gmail. However, I seldom bother ... Hi Carol (and all the other top posters), if you keep top posting, please could you at least DELETE the mail you are replying to? Tru -- Tru Huynh (

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Steve Huff
On May 16, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: Can you post some URLs for CentOS forums you mentioned in your reply? I've searched high-and-low with no success. http://www.centos.org in the navbar, look for Support->Forums. or pick the *very first hit* from a Google: http://www.g

RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Carol Anne Ogdin
Karanbir Singh > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:07 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting > > Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > > Jumping in late here: I sincerely wish that this list was > maintained > > on any of the quality "bulletin

RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Carol Anne Ogdin
:12 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting > > Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > > Jumping in late here: I sincerely wish that this list was > maintained > > on any of the quality "bulletin board" or "Forum" tools. It would &

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Matt Hyclak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 07:54:26AM -0700, Carol Anne Ogdin enlightened us: >> Thanks, Johnny, for your comments. >> >> Can you post some URLs for CentOS forums you mentioned in your reply? I've >> searched high-and-low with

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > > Can you post some URLs for CentOS forums you mentioned in your reply? I've > searched high-and-low with no success. Eh? www.centos.org -> support -> forums Or wiki.centos.org -> Help Or google -> [centos forums] [x] I feel lucky > The other thing I'd love is a link

RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Carol Anne Ogdin
: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Carol Anne Ogdin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find the entire USENET and eMail list thing utterly antediluvian, > > and wicked hard to use. Often, I can only barely r

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 07:54:26AM -0700, Carol Anne Ogdin enlightened us: > Thanks, Johnny, for your comments. > > Can you post some URLs for CentOS forums you mentioned in your reply? I've > searched high-and-low with no success. > www.centos.org -> Support -> Forums takes you to http://centos

RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Carol Anne Ogdin
Carol Anne > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny Hughes > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:42 AM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting > > Akemi Yagi wrote: > > On Thu, M

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread William Warren
Beyond casutic...who's slaging here karanbir? He expressed his opinion and last time i checked there wasn't a rule against that. While your reply was inflamatory you also have the right to fire back..however saying it's not ok to do something that wasn't against any of the rules of this forum

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Akemi Yagi wrote: I think this post gives us a good message. That is that, just like there are many people who hate the forums, there are many users who prefer the forums over the mailing lists. That does not mean you go slaging off one communication medium in another. If IRC is the only thin

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Johnny Hughes
Akemi Yagi wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Carol Anne Ogdin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jumping in late here: I sincerely wish that this list was maintained on any of the quality "bulletin board" or "Forum" tools. It would reduce my eMail load, allow me to zoom in on just the issues of

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread Martyn Drake
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Jason Pyeron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just wish I could configure my outlook ... > No excuse now :) http://quotefix.flupp.de/ Regards, Martyn -- Martyn Drake http://www.drake.org.uk http://www.mindthegapps.com _

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-15 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Carol Anne Ogdin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jumping in late here: I sincerely wish that this list was maintained on any > of the quality "bulletin board" or "Forum" tools. It would reduce my eMail > load, allow me to zoom in on just the issues of interest to me

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-15 Thread MHR
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:09 PM, David Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:04:08AM -0700, MHR wrote: >> This is way OT, which we know (the Subject: line...) - can we dismiss >> it as "beaten to death one more time" and go on? :-) > > You must be new to the Internet.

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-15 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Carol Anne Ogdin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find the entire USENET and eMail list thing utterly antediluvian, and > wicked hard to use. Often, I can only barely remember that *maybe* > something relevant was discussed months ago, but is now relevant to my > cur

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-15 Thread Les Mikesell
Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: Jumping in late here: I sincerely wish that this list was maintained on any of the quality "bulletin board" or "Forum" tools. It would reduce my eMail load, allow me to zoom in on just the issues of interest to me at the moment, and I can eMail those posts to myself that

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-15 Thread David Mackintosh
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:04:08AM -0700, MHR wrote: > This is way OT, which we know (the Subject: line...) - can we dismiss > it as "beaten to death one more time" and go on? :-) You must be new to the Internet. There's no such thing as too much beating for any horse, dead or not. :) -- /\o

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-15 Thread Karanbir Singh
Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: Jumping in late here: I sincerely wish that this list was maintained on any of the quality "bulletin board" or "Forum" tools. It would reduce my eMail load, allow me to zoom in on just the issues of interest to me at the moment, and I can eMail those posts to myself that

RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-15 Thread Carol Anne Ogdin
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:03 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting > > Bob Taylor wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 16:48 -0500, Doug Tucker wrote: > >> On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 15:56 -0500, Scott Nelson wrote: > >>> On May

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-15 Thread Guy Boisvert
Bob Taylor wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 16:48 -0500, Doug Tucker wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 15:56 -0500, Scott Nelson wrote: On May 14, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Doug Tucker wrote: ...all but dead...I run a usenet server here, had 3 logins last month...user base is over 4000... I *think* Scott wr

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-15 Thread MHR
Folks, This is way OT, which we know (the Subject: line...) - can we dismiss it as "beaten to death one more time" and go on? :-) Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-15 Thread Bob Taylor
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 16:48 -0500, Doug Tucker wrote: > On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 15:56 -0500, Scott Nelson wrote: > > On May 14, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Doug Tucker wrote: > > > > > ...all but dead...I run a usenet server here, had 3 logins last > > > month...user base is over 4000... > > I *think* Scott

RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-14 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Les Mikesell > > Jason Pyeron wrote: > > > > > > I just wish I could configure my outlook ... > > Configure it? Don't you know how to move the cursor? The point is that > you are supposed to delete

RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-14 Thread Jason Pyeron
2008 6:59 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting > > Jason Pyeron wrote: > > > >>>> ...all but dead...I run a usenet server here, had 3 logins last > >>>> month...user base is over 4000... > >> Usenet is almost

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-14 Thread Les Mikesell
Jason Pyeron wrote: ...all but dead...I run a usenet server here, had 3 logins last month...user base is over 4000... Usenet is almost dead but e-mail lists abound (you are using one). Same concepts. I know, but my point was, since we all use email to read email lists, let's get off the old u

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-14 Thread John R Pierce
Doug Tucker wrote: I know, but my point was, since we all use email to read email lists, let's get off the old usenet etiquette, and use email etiquette, which you will find yourself in the very minute minority that replies bottom post. Not on this or most any other technical list, with th

RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-14 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Doug Tucker > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:49 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting > > On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 15:56 -0500, Scott Nelson wr

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-14 Thread Doug Tucker
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 15:56 -0500, Scott Nelson wrote: > On May 14, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Doug Tucker wrote: > > > ...all but dead...I run a usenet server here, had 3 logins last > > month...user base is over 4000... > Usenet is almost dead but e-mail lists abound (you are using one). Same concept

Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-14 Thread Scott Nelson
On May 14, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Doug Tucker wrote: ...all but dead...I run a usenet server here, had 3 logins last month...user base is over 4000... Usenet is almost dead but e-mail lists abound (you are using one). Same concepts. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature