Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 22/06/2010 11:31, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Florin Andrei wrote on Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:42:46 -0700: > >> No, that's fine, really. I was just pointing out that, for some >> Internet-facing systems, this policy may be inadequate, due to the >> fast-changing nature of the Internet. > > I disagree.

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Florin Andrei wrote on Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:42:46 -0700: > No, that's fine, really. I was just pointing out that, for some > Internet-facing systems, this policy may be inadequate, due to the > fast-changing nature of the Internet. I disagree. The included Postfix works just fine. You have a ver

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-21 Thread Florin Andrei
On 06/18/2010 05:49 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 18/06/2010 22:28, Florin Andrei wrote: >> Fun fact: Postfix-2.3.3 has been released in August 2006. Think about that. > > While you are doing that - also think about this : Red Hat have a > policy, and they stick with it. Its something that works w

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 18/06/2010 23:19, John R Pierce wrote: > isn't EL6 coming out soon ? beta 1 released in April, afait ETA on el6 is august'ish this year. but C4 and C5 are still maintained and in mass production *now*. If there is a clearcut problem definition as this postfix issue is, then creating ( facil

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 18/06/2010 22:28, Florin Andrei wrote: > Fun fact: Postfix-2.3.3 has been released in August 2006. Think about that. While you are doing that - also think about this : Red Hat have a policy, and they stick with it. Its something that works well for them, the ISVs around the base and its somethi

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Florin Andrei wrote: > On 06/18/2010 03:19 PM, John R Pierce wrote: >> >> (reading the EL6 beta 1 release notes) EL6 will be based on 2.6.32, >> use EXT4 by default, have XFS support (in 64bit builds), Apache >> 2.2.14, gcc 4.4, samba 3.0, postgres 8.4, mysql 5.1 > > and Pos

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
> > Is anyone working on this? (No, not Fedora. That's not a server OS.) > When i find some package "old" i just get the SRPM from Fedora and i try to compile it in CentOS (it's very fun!) although CentOS/RHEL packages seems to be old, RH folks back-port security / bugfix patches I use fedor

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread John R Pierce
Stephen Harris wrote: > RHEL 2.1: Mar 2002 (AS), May 2003 (ES) > RHEL 3: Oct 2003 > RHEL 4: Feb 2005 > RHEL 5: Mar 2007 > RHEL 6: ??? (previous Beta's have been 5-6 months...) > > Funky; in June 2006 RHEL claimed they would slow their release schedule to > every 2 years (rather than 18 months). O

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Stephen Harris
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 06:02:10PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: > The door's wide open for someone with the energy to put together a server > distro based on CentOS but with modern versions of essential daemons. Yes, Or wait for RedHat^WCentOS 6, which can't be too far out... RHEL 2.1: Mar 2002 (A

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Florin Andrei
On 06/18/2010 03:19 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > > (reading the EL6 beta 1 release notes) EL6 will be based on 2.6.32, use > EXT4 by default, have XFS support (in 64bit builds), Apache 2.2.14, gcc > 4.4, samba 3.0, postgres 8.4, mysql 5.1 and Postfix 2.6.5. Not bad. I could live with that. -- Flor

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread John R Pierce
Whit Blauvelt wrote: > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 02:28:36PM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: > > >> Fun fact: Postfix-2.3.3 has been released in August 2006. Think about that. >> > > To be fair, RH/CentOS also ships with Sendmail-8.13.8, also from August 2006. > What > a golden month for mail dae

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/18/2010 5:02 PM, Whit Blauvelt wrote: > >> Fun fact: Postfix-2.3.3 has been released in August 2006. Think about that. > > To be fair, RH/CentOS also ships with Sendmail-8.13.8, also from August 2006. > What > a golden month for mail daemons that was. > > The door's wide open for someone with

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Florin Andrei
On 06/18/2010 03:02 PM, Whit Blauvelt wrote: > > To be fair, RH/CentOS also ships with Sendmail-8.13.8, also from August 2006. > What > a golden month for mail daemons that was. lol > The door's wide open for someone with the energy to put together a server > distro based on CentOS but with mode

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 02:28:36PM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: > Fun fact: Postfix-2.3.3 has been released in August 2006. Think about that. To be fair, RH/CentOS also ships with Sendmail-8.13.8, also from August 2006. What a golden month for mail daemons that was. The door's wide open for some

[CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Florin Andrei
If you deliver more than a few emails to the outside world, especially if a good portion of those go to Yahoo, you may want to read this message: http://marc.info/?l=postfix-users&m=127689518629249&w=2 Actually, read the whole thread, it's interesting and the discussion still continues: http:/