Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-10 Thread Brent L. Bates
I've looked over the man page for `ssh' and `ssh_config' on several systems and I think people have it backwards. The pages I read indicate that `-X' is more secure than `-Y'. Under the `-X' part on several systems I have access to says: "For this reason, X11 forwarding is subjected

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-08 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007, Les Mikesell wrote: >Les Bell wrote: >>Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>What's a 'trusted' forwarding mean as opposed to any other kind? >><< >> >>A trusted X11 client will bypass the security controls specified in the X11 >>Security Extension Specification (see >>

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
Les Bell wrote: Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What's a 'trusted' forwarding mean as opposed to any other kind? << A trusted X11 client will bypass the security controls specified in the X11 Security Extension Specification (see http://refspecs.freestandards.org/X11/security.pdf). In g

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
Amos Shapira wrote: On 07/12/2007, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am not doubting that -X will mostly work, but perhaps we should be promoting the idea of -Y a bit more. I'm totally with you about promoting security, but I got the impression it's the other way around and -X is the

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-08 Thread Amos Shapira
On 07/12/2007, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not doubting that -X will mostly work, but perhaps we should be > promoting the idea of -Y a bit more. I'm totally with you about promoting security, but I got the impression it's the other way around and -X is the more secure one:

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-07 Thread Les Bell
Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >(In fact, if you're on a trusted network, you shouldn't need to use SSH at >all, since you trust the devices (and their users) attached to the network >not to do nasty things like network sniffing, MitM attacks, etc.). True enough, but ssh makes the X

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-07 Thread Les Bell
Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> True enough, but ssh makes the X11 DISPLAY things so easy! One doesn't have to much with xhosts and such. << Absolutely - you might *want* to use SSH for the convenience, but you shouldn't *need* to. I preach "SSH Everywhere" as SOP, even on trusted n

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Caveat to using firefox over X11... you will sometimes get corrupted images and icons. This is because firefox (and many other X11 applications) use shared memory to store images. The corruption comes because your local X11 server cant see that memory location and will write whatever it can get to

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-07 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007, Les Bell wrote: > >Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> >What's a 'trusted' forwarding mean as opposed to any other kind? ><< > >A trusted X11 client will bypass the security controls specified in the X11 >Security Extension Specification (see >http://refspecs.freesta

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-07 Thread Les Bell
Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What's a 'trusted' forwarding mean as opposed to any other kind? << A trusted X11 client will bypass the security controls specified in the X11 Security Extension Specification (see http://refspecs.freestandards.org/X11/security.pdf). In general, you do

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-07 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007, Les Mikesell wrote: >Karanbir Singh wrote: > >ssh -X firefox you prolly meant -Y :D >>>Ok well just double checked and tested it here and -X works here. I >>>knew about -Y but thought you only use that if you absolutely have too :) >> >>the reason I would prefer

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
Les Mikesell wrote: > Karanbir Singh wrote: > > ssh -X firefox you prolly meant -Y :D >>> Ok well just double checked and tested it here and -X works here. I >>> knew about -Y but thought you only use that if you absolutely have >>> too :) >> >> the reason I would prefer -Y is that

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-07 Thread Les Mikesell
Karanbir Singh wrote: ssh -X firefox you prolly meant -Y :D Ok well just double checked and tested it here and -X works here. I knew about -Y but thought you only use that if you absolutely have too :) the reason I would prefer -Y is that its ( well, the man page says anyway ) more secure

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
Akemi Yagi wrote: > ssh -D 1080 > > In firefox, Go to Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Network -> Settings > Does firefox honour the Gnome Network Proxy settings ? If so, that might be another way to setup socks for the client side. It would allow you to have a fair few apps 'just work'. --

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
Clint Dilks wrote: >>> ssh -X firefox >> you prolly meant -Y :D >> > Ok well just double checked and tested it here and -X works here. I > knew about -Y but thought you only use that if you absolutely have too :) the reason I would prefer -Y is that its ( well, the man page says anyway ) more se

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-07 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Dec 7, 2007 7:53 AM, Jon Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or better yet use ssh -d and set your local SOCKS > proxy to localhost: in your browser. Yes, the SOCKS proxy method is indeed handy and you can redirect only selected URLs fairly easily. In my case, there are web sites I can acce

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-07 Thread Jon Stanley
On Dec 6, 2007 11:22 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can take it further (if you have more than one site/port to > connect to) - install a proxy on the remote machine (e.g. "squid" or > maybe apache's mod_proxy) and forward a tunnel to it as you describe > then setup localhost:

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Amos Shapira
On 07/12/2007, Ross Cavanagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John R Pierce wrote: > > Jerry Geis wrote: > >> I can ssh into a remote machine. > >> I can start X on that machine with startx > >> > >> How do I then start firefox on that machine (from the ssh prompt) and > >> have it display on my machin

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Clint Dilks
Karanbir Singh wrote: Clint Dilks wrote: ssh -X firefox you prolly meant -Y :D Ok well just double checked and tested it here and -X works here. I knew about -Y but thought you only use that if you absolutely have too :) Anyway Have a Great Day

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Ross Cavanagh
John R Pierce wrote: Jerry Geis wrote: I can ssh into a remote machine. I can start X on that machine with startx How do I then start firefox on that machine (from the ssh prompt) and have it display on my machine in my office. So I want to be using firefox on the remote machine but displaying

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Amos Shapira
On 07/12/2007, Jerry Geis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Jerry Geis wrote: > > >/ I can ssh into a remote machine. > > />/ I can start X on that machine with startx > > />/ > > />/ How do I then start firefox on that machine (from the ssh prompt) and > > />/ have it display on my machine i

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Amos Shapira
On 07/12/2007, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clint Dilks wrote: > > > > ssh -X firefox > > you prolly meant -Y :D Why? It's less secure and -X is good enough 99% of the time (I always use -X). --Amos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Amos Shapira
On 07/12/2007, Jerry Geis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jerry Geis wrote: > > I can ssh into a remote machine. > > I can start X on that machine with startx > > > > How do I then start firefox on that machine (from the ssh prompt) and > > have it display on my machine in my office. > > > > So I

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Karanbir Singh
Clint Dilks wrote: ssh -X firefox you prolly meant -Y :D -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

[CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Jerry Geis
>/ />/ Jerry Geis wrote: />/ >/ I can ssh into a remote machine. />/ />/ I can start X on that machine with startx />/ />/ />/ />/ How do I then start firefox on that machine (from the ssh prompt) and />/ />/ have it display on my machine in my office. />/ />/ />/ />/ So I want to be using firefo

[CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Jerry Geis
Jerry Geis wrote: >/ I can ssh into a remote machine. />/ I can start X on that machine with startx />/ />/ How do I then start firefox on that machine (from the ssh prompt) and />/ have it display on my machine in my office. />/ />/ So I want to be using firefox on the remote machine but display

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Alfred von Campe
I can ssh into a remote machine. I can start X on that machine with startx No need to start X on the remote machine. You need to do "ssh -X " so that X is forwarded (back to the machine that you ssh'ed from). Make sure that "X11Forwarding yes" is set in the /etc/ ssh/sshd_config file (res

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Max Hetrick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry Geis wrote: > > So I want to be using firefox on the remote machine but displaying the > screen output from firefox in my office. > Both boxes are running centos 5. > > how is that done? First, man ssh, so you can read the ssh manual. Second

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread John R Pierce
Jerry Geis wrote: I can ssh into a remote machine. I can start X on that machine with startx How do I then start firefox on that machine (from the ssh prompt) and have it display on my machine in my office. So I want to be using firefox on the remote machine but displaying the screen output fro

Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Clint Dilks
Jerry Geis wrote: I can ssh into a remote machine. I can start X on that machine with startx How do I then start firefox on that machine (from the ssh prompt) and have it display on my machine in my office. So I want to be using firefox on the remote machine but displaying the screen output f

[CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox

2007-12-06 Thread Jerry Geis
I can ssh into a remote machine. I can start X on that machine with startx How do I then start firefox on that machine (from the ssh prompt) and have it display on my machine in my office. So I want to be using firefox on the remote machine but displaying the screen output from firefox in my off