Look at Rocky Linux rockylinux.org It is set to become what CentOS was
before it was sucked in by RH and sold to IBM, a Community Enterprise OS.
On 12/8/2020 8:15 AM, Pete Biggs wrote:
Forgive a bit of cynicism ...
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 09:06 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
The future of the CentOS
On 12/10/20 5:28 PM, mark wrote:
> On 12/9/20 9:32 AM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:41 AM Pete Biggs wrote:
>>
I think what a lot of people are concerned about is the rolling-release
> aspect of this. There will be no definitive versioning of CentOS in
> the
Il 2020-12-10 18:40 Brendan Conoboy ha scritto:
Hey, you dropped Centos-devel from your reply. I'll assume that was
intentional, but if it wasn't feel free to quote any of this back
there.
Hi Brendan, no, it was not intentional - I replied from the smartphone
and I accidentally dropped the ce
On 12/9/20 9:32 AM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:41 AM Pete Biggs wrote:
I think what a lot of people are concerned about is the rolling-release
aspect of this. There will be no definitive versioning of CentOS in the
future - all you will be able to say is "fully updated" a
El mar, 8 dic 2020 a las 13:44, Nicolas Kovacs ()
escribió:
> Le 08/12/2020 à 16:12, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
> > Another very good thing
> >
> > There is no longer a huge delay of a drop of 750 packages at once and a
> > delay of more than a month to get a new release.
> >
> > There will be on del
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:29 PM Lamar Owen wrote:
> On 12/9/20 9:37 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:07 PM Lamar Owen wrote:
> >
> >> So, I want to address this part a bit. In MANY cases, it's not a
> >> third-party driver that ELrepo packages; it's an in-kernel driver that
>
On 12/9/20 9:37 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:07 PM Lamar Owen wrote:
So, I want to address this part a bit. In MANY cases, it's not a
third-party driver that ELrepo packages; it's an in-kernel driver that
Red Hat has decided to disable. Such as the megaraid_sas driver I nee
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 1:01 AM Gionatan Danti wrote:
> Il 2020-12-10 04:55 Brendan Conoboy ha scritto:
> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:07 PM Lamar Owen wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/9/20 12:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> >> > While I'm not sure how we'll get there, it seems like the
> >> > mutually satis
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:54 AM Phil Perry wrote:
> On 10/12/2020 03:55, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:07 PM Lamar Owen wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/9/20 12:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> >>> While I'm not sure how we'll get there, it seems like the
> >>> mutually satisfying end
Il 2020-12-10 04:55 Brendan Conoboy ha scritto:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:07 PM Lamar Owen wrote:
On 12/9/20 12:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> While I'm not sure how we'll get there, it seems like the
> mutually satisfying end result would be one where third party binary
> drivers work with Ce
On 10/12/2020 03:55, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:07 PM Lamar Owen wrote:
On 12/9/20 12:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
While I'm not sure how we'll get there, it seems like the
mutually satisfying end result would be one where third party binary
drivers work with CentOS Stre
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:07 PM Lamar Owen wrote:
> On 12/9/20 12:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> > While I'm not sure how we'll get there, it seems like the
> > mutually satisfying end result would be one where third party binary
> > drivers work with CentOS Stream kernels. Let's see what we can
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:07 PM Lamar Owen wrote:
>
> On 12/9/20 12:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> > While I'm not sure how we'll get there, it seems like the
> > mutually satisfying end result would be one where third party binary
> > drivers work with CentOS Stream kernels. Let's see what we ca
On 12/9/20 12:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
While I'm not sure how we'll get there, it seems like the
mutually satisfying end result would be one where third party binary
drivers work with CentOS Stream kernels. Let's see what we can do.
So, I want to address this part a bit. In MANY cases, it
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:24:33AM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> What will be the incentive for vendors to participate? Sure you can
> talk the corporate talk about opportunities and ecosystems, but the
> bottom line is that it requires investment (at least in time) when they
> could just continue sup
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:21 AM Phil Perry wrote:
> On 09/12/2020 03:26, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:19 PM Pete Biggs wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 17:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> >>
> "Cen
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 15:13 +, Phil Perry wrote:
If
you are able to retain kernel ABI compatibility between RHEL8 and
Stream
kernels, then we (and other OEMs) will be able to continue to
support
Stream users, otherwise Stream users will have to
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 15:13 +, Phil Perry wrote:
>
> If
> you are able to retain kernel ABI compatibility between RHEL8 and
> Stream
> kernels, then we (and other OEMs) will be able to continue to
> support
> Stream users, otherwise Stream users will have to look to
> alternative
> solutio
On 09/12/2020 03:26, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:19 PM Pete Biggs wrote:
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 17:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
"CentOS will become the developer playground"
This one is categorically not th
On 9/12/2020 4:32 μ.μ., Brendan Conoboy wrote:
As CentOS Stream grows, I expect many companies who sell hardware will
become active members of the community.
Probably, but this is not the point. The value of CentOS is that in
essence it is identical to RHEL.
This allows its use in multiple s
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:41 AM Pete Biggs wrote:
> > I think what a lot of people are concerned about is the rolling-release
> > > aspect of this. There will be no definitive versioning of CentOS in the
> > > future - all you will be able to say is "fully updated" and it won't be
> > > possible t
Am 08.12.20 um 22:30 schrieb Frank Cox:
Prior to this point it's been a difference without any difference, but I wonder
if Oracle actually re-creates RHEL or if they re-create Centos.
Oracle was/is much faster in releasing updates, point releases and releases.
They don't need Centos to get O
Wrong.
Am 08.12.20 um 18:25 schrieb J Martin Rushton via CentOS:
The first thing Oracle wants is for you to sign up for an Oracle
account. Hmm, I'll give Springdale a try. For those with long
memories, remember the DEC RDMS promises prior to take over, and the
aftermath?
Isos are here:
https
Am 08.12.20 um 15:06 schrieb Rich Bowen:
The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a
current RHEL release.
JFTR: I don't hav
>
> I think what a lot of people are concerned about is the rolling-release
> > aspect of this. There will be no definitive versioning of CentOS in the
> > future - all you will be able to say is "fully updated" and it won't be
> > possible to slot a CentOS system in to exactly match a RHEL versio
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 19:52 -0800, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:00 PM Pete Biggs wrote:
>
> > The problem is that we won't know if it will work. When CentOS matched
> > the RHEL point releases we knew that an RPM/driver targeted for RHEL
> > 8.2 has a good chance of working
Il 08/12/20 22:12, Nicolas Kovacs ha scritto:
Le 08/12/2020 à 21:56, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
And, it will likely be sometime mid to late 1st quarter 2021 before
CentOS Stream is in its 'Fully Functional' state with community pull
requests and the RHEL package maintainer doing all the work in Ce
Il 08/12/20 17:04, John Thomas ha scritto:
I'll probably switch to Debian over the new year.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:01 AM Phelps, Matthew
wrote:
I'm exactly planning this today.
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>
I have a technical question on this regarding the official CentOS docker images
found at https://hub.docker.com/_/centos <https://hub.docker.com/_/centos>
Will the image tagged centos:8 follow CentOS Stream eventually, and if so,
starting when? Or is it al
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 22:58 Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 1:04 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Rich Bowen wrote:
> >
> >> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
> >> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
> >> Enter
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:00 PM Pete Biggs wrote:
> The problem is that we won't know if it will work. When CentOS matched
> the RHEL point releases we knew that an RPM/driver targeted for RHEL
> 8.2 has a good chance of working on CentOS 8.2 - but that versioning
> match is lost with Stream. So
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:19 PM Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 17:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
>
> > > "CentOS will become the developer playground"
> >
> > This one is categorically not the case. Even Fedora isn't a dev
>
> It is not the same as Rawhide is all I am saying.
>
> It is based on the current release and it is being modified for some reason.
>
> That modification can be a bugfix from a reported bug, it can be an
> enhancement for a given package or it can be a security update.
>
> Each of these upd
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 7:32 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 5:29 PM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:05 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/8/20 3:40 PM, Jim Bourne wrote:
> >>> On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> I promise you, to the best of my knowledg
On 12/8/20 6:18 PM, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 17:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
>
>>> "CentOS will become the developer playground"
>>
>> This one is categorically not the case. Even Fedora isn't a developer
>> playgro
On 12/8/20 5:29 PM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:05 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/20 3:40 PM, Jim Bourne wrote:
>>> On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do with
this decision. Red Hat is a d
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 17:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > "CentOS will become the developer playground"
>
> This one is categorically not the case. Even Fedora isn't a developer
> playground. Everything landing in CentOS Stream is a
For the record, I don't think this is a good decision because it
changes what CentOS is (its "core mission" in business-speak).
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 2:07 PM Rich Bowen wrote:
>
> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linu
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 11:42:01PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> I too would be interested to know what happens to CentOS 8 Stream once
> focus of RedHat moves to RHEL 9? The life cycle document says the last
> release of RHEL8 will be 8.10, that's a five year road map (since point
> releases seem to
>
> FAQ:"Updates for the CentOS Stream 8 distribution continue through the
> full RHEL support phase."
>
> What does this "full" exactly means? Will C8S be "closed" in May 31,
> 2024 [*] but RHEL8 still supported through Maintenance support mode
> until 2029?
I too would be interested to know
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:05 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 3:40 PM, Jim Bourne wrote:
> > On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >> I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do with
> >> this decision. Red Hat is a distinct unit inside IBM and Red Hat still
> >> h
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:05 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 3:40 PM, Jim Bourne wrote:
> > On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >> I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do with
> >> this decision. Red Hat is a distinct unit inside IBM and Red Hat still
> >> h
Forget about IBM.
We were told way back in 2014, when Red Hat bought CentOS, that CentOS
would remain independent from RedHat. This is clearly bullshit now. So we
were totally misled into adopting the platform with the belief that what we
were getting would stay the same, an unsupported recompile
On 12/8/20 3:40 PM, Jim Bourne wrote:
> On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do with
>> this decision. Red Hat is a distinct unit inside IBM and Red Hat still
>> has a CEO, CFO, etc. Red Hat also maintains a neutral relationsh
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Forgive a bit of cynicism ...
Sure, some cynicism is absolutely warranted. It's a big change.
> "If you want to keep using RHEL for free, you will have to put up with
> making sure that our paying customers get better quality releases
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:13 PM Phelps, Matthew
wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:02 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/20 2:01 PM, cen...@niob.at wrote:
>> > On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> >> On 12/8/20 8:35 AM, Bill Gee wrote:
>> >>> Aside from the the latest shiny - what ar
> A colleague of mine - the most proficient admin I personally know - already
> decided to move to Oracle Linux. And I'm currently considering it as an
> option.
And Larry Ellison is sitting in his office laughing his ass off. Happy guy with
a nice christmas gift from the RH board of director
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On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Rich Bowen wro
On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do with
this decision. Red Hat is a distinct unit inside IBM and Red Hat still
has a CEO, CFO, etc. Red Hat also maintains a neutral relationship with
many IBM competitors. So this was not a
Am 08.12.20 um 21:56 schrieb Johnny Hughes:
On 12/8/20 1:04 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote:
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Rich Bowen wrote:
The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to Cen
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 22:12:50 +0100
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> A colleague of mine - the most proficient admin I personally know - already
> decided to move to Oracle Linux. And I'm currently considering it as an
> option.
This sounds like a reasonable path forward, but I wonder if Oracle will simply
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:02 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 2:01 PM, cen...@niob.at wrote:
> > On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >> On 12/8/20 8:35 AM, Bill Gee wrote:
> >>> Aside from the the latest shiny - what are the advantages of CentOS 8
> >>> Stream? What are the benefits?
Le 08/12/2020 à 21:56, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
> And, it will likely be sometime mid to late 1st quarter 2021 before
> CentOS Stream is in its 'Fully Functional' state with community pull
> requests and the RHEL package maintainer doing all the work in CentOS
> Stream, etc . CentOS Linux 8 will st
> I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do
> with
> this decision. Red Hat is a distinct unit inside IBM and Red Hat
> still
> has a CEO, CFO, etc. Red Hat also maintains a neutral relationship
> with
> many IBM competitors. So this was not an IBM decision.
>
So why is
On 12/8/20 2:01 PM, cen...@niob.at wrote:
> On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 12/8/20 8:35 AM, Bill Gee wrote:
>>> Aside from the the latest shiny - what are the advantages of CentOS 8
>>> Stream? What are the benefits?
>>>
>>> I read through the announcement and FAQ, but they do not
On 12/8/20 1:04 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
>> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
>> Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead
On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/8/20 8:35 AM, Bill Gee wrote:
Aside from the the latest shiny - what are the advantages of CentOS 8 Stream?
What are the benefits?
I read through the announcement and FAQ, but they do not address that question.
Is it just a name change? Is it
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Rich Bowen wrote:
The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next year
we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat Enterprise
Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a current RHEL
release. CentOS Linux 8, as a r
The first thing Oracle wants is for you to sign up for an Oracle
account. Hmm, I'll give Springdale a try. For those with long
memories, remember the DEC RDMS promises prior to take over, and the
aftermath?
On 08/12/2020 15:58, Julio E. Gonzalez wrote:
I am already using Oracle Linux in som
Le 08/12/2020 à 16:54, Marc Balmer via CentOS a écrit :
> This really pisses me off. You published CentOS 8 with a promise to support
> it until May 2029.
>
> Now you betray all users that took you by the mouth by stating it's EOL
> december 31. 2021.
>
> Do you really think that was a smart mov
Le 08/12/2020 à 16:12, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
> Another very good thing
>
> There is no longer a huge delay of a drop of 750 packages at once and a
> delay of more than a month to get a new release.
>
> There will be on delay in stream .. it will be a constantly rolling
> distribution .. updates
To be fair, that was a commitment RH gave. They are now a department
within Big Blue and must dance to their tune. Of course you
could always try holding your breath and awaiting the sell off to Lenovo
in about five years time.
On 08/12/2020 16:25, Lange, Markus wrote:
Hi,
this is really b
Hi,
this is really bad news.
Back in 2014 [1], sadly no one at RH seems to remember...
"Some of the things that are not changing:
- - The CentOS Linux platform isn't changing. The process and methods
built up around the platform however are going to become more open,
more inclusive and transpare
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I'll probably switch to Debian over the new year.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:01 AM Phelps, Matthew
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:58 AM Julio E. Gonzalez
> wrote:
>
> > I am already using Oracle Linux in some servers.
> >
> > Free as CentOS, faster updates than CentOS, and with some extra su
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:58 AM Julio E. Gonzalez
wrote:
> I am already using Oracle Linux in some servers.
>
> Free as CentOS, faster updates than CentOS, and with some extra support,
> BTRFS and a newer kernel, for example.
>
>
>
I expect their usage is about to explode.
I've always feared a g
I am already using Oracle Linux in some servers.
Free as CentOS, faster updates than CentOS, and with some extra support,
BTRFS and a newer kernel, for example.
On 12/8/20 12:15 PM, Pete Biggs wrote:
Red Hat's perspective is "CentOS is ours now; IBM have told us to make
sure it's pulling it
This really pisses me off. You published CentOS 8 with a promise to support it
until May 2029.
Now you betray all users that took you by the mouth by stating it's EOL
december 31. 2021.
Do you really think that was a smart move?
> Am 08.12.2020 um 15:06 schrieb Rich Bowen :
>
> The future of
On 08/12/2020 15:15, Pete Biggs wrote:
So as far as I can see all the RHEL rebuilds are dead now - WhiteBox,
Scientific Linux, now CentOS. Are there any left?
Springdale:
http://springdale.math.ias.edu/
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Forgive a bit of cynicism ...
On Tue, 2020
Forgive a bit of cynicism ...
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 09:06 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
> Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead
On 12/8/20 8:35 AM, Bill Gee wrote:
> Aside from the the latest shiny - what are the advantages of CentOS 8 Stream?
> What are the benefits?
>
> I read through the announcement and FAQ, but they do not address that
> question. Is it just a name change? Is it an attempt to put CentOS on a
> s
Am 08.12.20 um 15:15 schrieb Tom Bishop:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:07 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahe
On 12/8/20 8:35 AM, Bill Gee wrote:
> Aside from the the latest shiny - what are the advantages of CentOS 8 Stream?
> What are the benefits?
>
> I read through the announcement and FAQ, but they do not address that
> question. Is it just a name change? Is it an attempt to put CentOS on a
> s
Aside from the the latest shiny - what are the advantages of CentOS 8 Stream?
What are the benefits?
I read through the announcement and FAQ, but they do not address that question.
Is it just a name change? Is it an attempt to put CentOS on a subscription
model?
--
Bill Gee
On Tuesday,
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:07 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
> Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a
> current RHEL release. CentOS
The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a
current RHEL release. CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end
at the end o
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 13 September 2017 at 11:42, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 09/13/2017 10:28 AM, hw wrote:
Hi,
https://ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-barcode/
says that pst-barcode is included in texlive.
I installed texlive, and it can´t find pst-barcode.sty. Is
On 13 September 2017 at 11:42, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 09/13/2017 10:28 AM, hw wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> https://ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-barcode/
>> says that pst-barcode is included in texlive.
>>
>> I installed texlive, and it can´t find pst-barcode.sty. Is that a
>> b
On 09/13/2017 10:28 AM, hw wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> https://ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-barcode/
> says that pst-barcode is included in texlive.
>
> I installed texlive, and it can´t find pst-barcode.sty. Is that a
> bug in the packaging Centos does, or is texlive in Centos som
Hi,
https://ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-barcode/
says that pst-barcode is included in texlive.
I installed texlive, and it can´t find pst-barcode.sty. Is that a
bug in the packaging Centos does, or is texlive in Centos some
derelict version?
_
On Wed, September 28, 2016 10:40 pm, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 9/28/2016 5:46 PM, Jerry Geis wrote:
>> How do I get a valid certificate for a box that is behind a firewall and
>> does not have a DNS entry?
>>
>> I was looking at letsencrypt.org but currently it looks like a valid DNS
>> entry is n
On 9/28/2016 5:46 PM, Jerry Geis wrote:
How do I get a valid certificate for a box that is behind a firewall and
does not have a DNS entry?
I was looking at letsencrypt.org but currently it looks like a valid DNS
entry is needed, of which I don't have.
There is nothing special about my setup, i
On 09/28/2016 05:46 PM, Jerry Geis wrote:
How do I get a valid certificate for a box that is behind a firewall and
does not have a DNS entry?
I was looking at letsencrypt.org but currently it looks like a valid DNS
entry is needed, of which I don't have.
There is nothing special about my setup,
How do I get a valid certificate for a box that is behind a firewall and
does not have a DNS entry?
I was looking at letsencrypt.org but currently it looks like a valid DNS
entry is needed, of which I don't have.
There is nothing special about my setup, its just a box that is not
directly on the
On Mon, June 20, 2016 13:16, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 06/20/2016 07:47 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> On Sat, June 18, 2016 18:39, Gordon Messmer wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not interested in turning this in to a discussion on
>>> epistemology.
>>> This is based on the experience (the evidence) of some of t
On Wed, June 15, 2016 16:17, Warren Young wrote:
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Александр Кириллов
> wrote:
>>
>> Nowadays it's quite easy to get normal ssl certificates for free. E.g.
>>
>> http://www.startssl.com
>> http://buy.wosign.com/free
>
> Today, I would prefer Let’s Encrypt:
>
> https:
On Mon, June 20, 2016 19:16, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 06/20/2016 07:47 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> Exactly what mindless person or committee of bike-shedders decided
>> that software should be distributed so that copies of it expire?
>
> Expiration is a fundamental aspect of x509 certificates.
On 06/20/2016 07:47 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
On Sat, June 18, 2016 18:39, Gordon Messmer wrote:
I'm not interested in turning this in to a discussion on epistemology.
This is based on the experience (the evidence) of some of the world's
foremost experts in the field (Akamai, Cisco, EFF, Mozill
On Mon, 2016-06-20 at 10:47 -0400, James B. Byrne wrote:
> But hey, what is my time worth in comparison to the security those
> certificates provided? SECURITY that was trivially evaded in the end.
> Exactly what mindless person or committee of bike-shedders decided
> that software sh
On Sat, June 18, 2016 18:39, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 06/18/2016 02:49 PM, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> On Fri, June 17, 2016 21:40, Gordon Messmer wrote:
>>> https://letsencrypt.org/2015/11/09/why-90-days.html
>> With respect citing another person's or people's opinion in support
>> of
>> your own i
On Sat, 2016-06-18 at 19:49 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> Which browser do you use? I still am in a process of finding replacement
> for Firefox (the closest is midori, it doesn't fully fill the bill for me
> though).
There is a Mozilla folk called Palemoon by some Europeans (Sweeds, I
think)
On Sat, June 18, 2016 6:50 pm, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2016-06-18 at 15:39 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
>
>> I'm not interested in turning this in to a discussion on epistemology.
>> This is based on the experience (the evidence) of some of the world's
>> foremost experts in the field (
On Sat, 2016-06-18 at 15:39 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> I'm not interested in turning this in to a discussion on epistemology.
> This is based on the experience (the evidence) of some of the world's
> foremost experts in the field (Akamai, Cisco, EFF, Mozilla, etc).
The same Mozilla Founda
On 06/18/2016 02:49 PM, James B. Byrne wrote:
On Fri, June 17, 2016 21:40, Gordon Messmer wrote:
https://letsencrypt.org/2015/11/09/why-90-days.html
With respect citing another person's or people's opinion in support of
your own is not evidence in the sense I understand the word to mean.
I'm
On Fri, June 17, 2016 11:06, Walter H. wrote:
> On 17.06.2016 16:46, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> On Thu, June 16, 2016 13:53, Walter H. wrote:
>>> On 15.06.2016 16:17, Warren Young wrote:
but it also affects the other public CAs: you canât get a
publicly-trusted cert for a machine witho
On Sat, 2016-06-18 at 08:20 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Sat, June 18, 2016 7:52 am, Always Learning wrote:
> >
> > Your connection is not secure
> >
> > The owner of harte-lyne.ca has configured their website improperly. To
> > protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not co
On 18.06.2016 03:41, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 06/17/2016 07:56 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
On Thu, June 16, 2016 14:09, Gordon Messmer wrote:
I doubt that most users check the dates on SSL certificates,
unless they are familiar enough with TLS to understand that
a shorter validity period is bette
On Sat, June 18, 2016 7:52 am, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2016-06-17 at 15:56 +0100, Michael H wrote:
>
>> On 17/06/16 15:46, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
>> >
>> > We operate a private CA for our domain and have since 2005. We
>> > maintain a public CRL strictly in accordance with our CPS and
On Fri, 2016-06-17 at 15:56 +0100, Michael H wrote:
> On 17/06/16 15:46, James B. Byrne wrote:
> >
> > We operate a private CA for our domain and have since 2005. We
> > maintain a public CRL strictly in accordance with our CPS and have our
> > own OID assigned. Our CPS and CRL together with
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