Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-29 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 14:16 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > You said you were blocking IPs. Yes my systems block IPs on the basis:- Emails -- Block if IP allocated to a data centre or to a commercial email sending organisation. Web --- Hacking attempts - individual IP if a 'home-type' Intern

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Always Learning wrote: > >> > >> > The alternative is to be a willing victim. > >> It's more a question of why you run the service at all. If blocking >> people from reaching it doesn't bother you, why not just shut it down? > > Blocking people ? Data Centre bots

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-29 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 12:16 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > > > If this inconvenience's an innocent web user, I have neither ability to > > detect the inconvenience nor to determine the user's innocence. I > > understand your hotel analog

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > If this inconvenience's an innocent web user, I have neither ability to > detect the inconvenience nor to determine the user's innocence. I > understand your hotel analogue. In England many hotel guests use their > mobile phones or table

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-29 Thread Lamar Owen
On 09/25/2014 12:26 PM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: No packages for EL6 AFAIK, Seamonkey is available in EPEL. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Always Learning
V, Sorry that should be ... I understand your hotel analogy. P. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Always Learning
Hi Valeri, > On Fri, September 26, 2014 8:32 pm, Always Learning wrote: > > Don't use cgi. Have no /cgi directory. Don't load mod_cgi > > > > Bash is patched (updated to new version). Automatically bloke IPs of > > anyone trying to hack Apache. Am I safe ? > You are. But if you run the server

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, September 26, 2014 8:32 pm, Always Learning wrote: > > On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 16:05 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > >> no. mod_cgi launches /bin/sh and passes it the command, even if the >> file doesn't exist. and /bin/sh is linked to bash > > Don't use cgi. Have no /cgi directory. Don't

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 16:05 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > no. mod_cgi launches /bin/sh and passes it the command, even if the > file doesn't exist. and /bin/sh is linked to bash Don't use cgi. Have no /cgi directory. Don't load mod_cgi Bash is patched (updated to new version). Automatica

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, September 26, 2014 6:05 pm, John R Pierce wrote: > On 9/26/2014 3:36 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> On Fri, September 26, 2014 5:13 pm, John R Pierce wrote: >>> >On 9/26/2014 2:51 PM, Always Learning wrote: >>Probably all Windoze >>> > >>> >linux apache web servers with the bash exploit

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-26, John R Pierce wrote: >> On Fri, September 26, 2014 5:13 pm, John R Pierce wrote: >>> > >>> >66.186.2.172 - - [26/Sep/2014:00:49:29 -0700] "GET /cgi-bin/test.sh > > no. mod_cgi launches /bin/sh and passes it the command, even if the > file doesn't exist. and /bin/sh is linked t

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, September 26, 2014 6:05 pm, John R Pierce wrote: > On 9/26/2014 3:36 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> On Fri, September 26, 2014 5:13 pm, John R Pierce wrote: >>> >On 9/26/2014 2:51 PM, Always Learning wrote: >>Probably all Windoze >>> > >>> >linux apache web servers with the bash exploit

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Cliff Pratt
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Keith Keller < kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote: > On 2014-09-26, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Fri, September 26, 2014 5:13 pm, John R Pierce wrote: > >> > >> linux apache web servers with the bash exploit are getting owned en > >> masse today. my (p

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-26, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Fri, September 26, 2014 5:13 pm, John R Pierce wrote: >> >> linux apache web servers with the bash exploit are getting owned en >> masse today. my (patched) internet web server has logged 100s and >> 100s of attempts like... >> >> 66.186.2.172 - - [26/

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/26/2014 3:36 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Fri, September 26, 2014 5:13 pm, John R Pierce wrote: >On 9/26/2014 2:51 PM, Always Learning wrote: >>Probably all Windoze > >linux apache web servers with the bash exploit are getting owned en >masse today. my (patched) internet web server ha

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, September 26, 2014 5:13 pm, John R Pierce wrote: > On 9/26/2014 2:51 PM, Always Learning wrote: >> Probably all Windoze > > linux apache web servers with the bash exploit are getting owned en > masse today. my (patched) internet web server has logged 100s and > 100s of attempts like...

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/26/2014 2:51 PM, Always Learning wrote: Probably all Windoze linux apache web servers with the bash exploit are getting owned en masse today. my (patched) internet web server has logged 100s and 100s of attempts like... 66.186.2.172 - - [26/Sep/2014:00:49:29 -0700] "GET /cgi-bin/te

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 12:22 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > . just based on statistics of compromised machines...) Probably all Windoze :-) Regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, September 26, 2014 1:27 pm, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Valeri Galtsev > wrote: >> >> No, it is not because of that. At least in my case. I started looking >> for >> decent open source browser that to an extent possible follows the rule >> "don't change anything

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > No, it is not because of that. At least in my case. I started looking for > decent open source browser that to an extent possible follows the rule > "don't change anything unless it is absolutely necessary" as far as the > way of user inte

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > So, because you have to check a box to get the menu, you want to look > for a new browser, which could just stop working at the whims of the > upstream guys (like chromium did) when they move on to the latest and > greatest glibc, etc? T

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Александр Кириллов
I hope, "my" government doesn't go into alliance with Russia behind my back ;-) (I'm perfectly OK about Romania, no matter how much more careful I'll be about repositories hosted there compared to the ones hosted, say, in Finland, just based on statistics of compromised machines...) These guy

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread m . roth
Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Fri, September 26, 2014 11:56 am, James B. Byrne wrote: >> >> On Thu, September 25, 2014 12:42, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, I sit (and type) corrected. There was something nagging at me, >>> saying Russia was wrong for Nux. However, I don't foresee aforesaid

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, September 26, 2014 11:56 am, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Thu, September 25, 2014 12:42, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> >> Thanks, I sit (and type) corrected. There was something nagging at me, >> saying Russia was wrong for Nux. However, I don't foresee aforesaid >> manager being happy with a

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread m . roth
James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Thu, September 25, 2014 12:42, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> >> Thanks, I sit (and type) corrected. There was something nagging at me, >> saying Russia was wrong for Nux. However, I don't foresee aforesaid >> manager being happy with an eastern European individual's repo.

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thu, September 25, 2014 12:42, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > Thanks, I sit (and type) corrected. There was something nagging at me, > saying Russia was wrong for Nux. However, I don't foresee aforesaid > manager being happy with an eastern European individual's repo. > You, and your boss, should

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thu, September 25, 2014 10:27, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:09:15AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> developers to follow this: >> >> Don't change anything unless it is absolutely necessary. >> >> (it was excellent attitude to programming I was doing once: this way you >>

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, September 26, 2014 8:21 am, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 09/25/2014 09:42 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Steve Lindemann wrote: >>> On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: >> From: Johan Vermeulen

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 09/25/2014 09:42 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Steve Lindemann wrote: >> On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: > From: Johan Vermeulen >> op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >>> Yup, forgot tha

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, September 25, 2014 7:32 pm, Always Learning wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 18:16 +0200, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: >> >> On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> > >> > Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo >> to my >> > manager, who understandab

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Always Learning
On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 18:16 +0200, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > > On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > > > Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my > > manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US gov't > > agency (non-DoD)

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Always Learning
On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 09:09 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Don't change anything unless it is absolutely necessary. Extremely wise advice. Seems upstream do not always agree :-) -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Jake Shipton
On 25/09/14 18:18, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Jake Shipton wrote: >> >> Guess it's the old "if it ain't American, it ain't right" >> attitude? :-). > > Don't be absurd. How 'bout "can we be sure that no one's inserted > nasties into the code?" How 'bout "who else has looked at and > compared the c

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Sorry, missing footnotes to last email: 1] you'll notice I never mention the organization name - I really am not allowed to speak for my organization, or my company. 2] Partly because I work for a federal contractor mark ___ CentOS mailing lis

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:18 PM, wrote: >>> >> Guess it's the old "if it ain't American, it ain't right" attitude? :-). > > Don't be absurd. How 'bout "can we be sure that no one's inserted nasties > into the code?" How 'bout "who else has looked at and compared the code to > the project source?

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Jake Shipton wrote: > On 25/09/14 17:42, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: >>> On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Tom Bishop wrote: > I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to > Nux and see if we can get it added to his repo. >>>

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Jake Shipton
On 25/09/14 17:42, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: >> On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> Tom Bishop wrote: I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and see if we can get it added to his repo. >>> >>> Maybe we can get it into e

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Александр Кириллов
Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US gov't agency (non-DoD) that we work at li.nux.ro, that's Romania not Russia. Thanks, I sit (and type) corrected. There was something nagging at

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Tom Bishop wrote: >>> I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and >>> see if we can get it added to his repo. >> >> Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to >> my

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
On 09/25/2014 04:38 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: Yes, I still didn't find replacement for firefox... so, anyone who has a any suggestions of decent open source browser, please, let me know. maybe try seamonkey, I've been using it for ages (basically since firefox split from mozilla suite ;-) )

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, September 25, 2014 11:16 am, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > > > On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Tom Bishop wrote: >>> I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and >>> see if we can get it added to his repo. >> >> Maybe we can get it into extras? I m

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Lindemann
On 9/25/2014 9:07 AM, Steve Lindemann wrote: On 9/25/2014 8:42 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Steve Lindemann wrote: On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: From: Johan Vermeulen op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef:

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Tom Bishop wrote: I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and see if we can get it added to his repo. Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my manager, who understandably balked at a Rus

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Tom Bishop
> > Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my > manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US gov't > agency (non-DoD) that we work at > >mark > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@cento

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Tom Bishop wrote: >>> >> I'm in the same fix... But. When I will find open source, acceptable >> browser which I can predict will last and will have the same great >> attitude late netscape or mozilla had, I will start installing it >> simultaneously with firefox, yet will make it default browser,

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, September 25, 2014 10:10 am, Ron Yorston wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>palemoon looks nice > > My concern with Pale Moon is that it's based on the Firefox 24 extended > support release, Sad. If there is no own developers team behind that, it hardly will survive "enterprise level" len

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Ron Yorston
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >palemoon looks nice My concern with Pale Moon is that it's based on the Firefox 24 extended support release, which is no longer supported. Don't know how that'll play out. In the meantime I've added exclude=firefox to my yum configuration and am sticking with Firefox 24.

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Lindemann
On 9/25/2014 8:42 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Steve Lindemann wrote: On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: From: Johan Vermeulen op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no me

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Tom Bishop
>> > > I'm in the same fix... But. When I will find open source, acceptable > browser which I can predict will last and will have the same great > attitude late netscape or mozilla had, I will start installing it > simultaneously with firefox, yet will make it default browser, which users > can swi

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, September 25, 2014 9:42 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Steve Lindemann wrote: >> On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: > From: Johan Vermeulen >> op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >>> Yu

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Steve Lindemann wrote: > On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: From: Johan Vermeulen > op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >> Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus >> It is *completel

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, September 25, 2014 9:13 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: >>> From: Johan Vermeulen op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: > Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus > Then maybe you are stuck

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Lindemann
On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: From: Johan Vermeulen op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exi

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:09:15AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > developers to follow this: > > Don't change anything unless it is absolutely necessary. > > (it was excellent attitude to programming I was doing once: this way you > diminish the chance to break something that works...) Probab

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: >> From: Johan Vermeulen >>> op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus >>> Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exit that. No. 99.44% of the time,

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: > From: Johan Vermeulen > >> op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >>> Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus >>> >>> mark >> >> Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exit that. >> >> grts, Johan > > You can pre

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread John Doe
From: Johan Vermeulen > op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >> Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus >> >> mark > > Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exit that. > > grts, Johan You can press the "Alt" key to show the menu. JD _

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Johan Vermeulen
op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: On 09/25/14 03:09, Johan Vermeulen wrote: op 25-09-14 09:01, Johan Vermeulen schreef: op 25-09-14 02:46, Tom Bishop schreef: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs w

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread mark
On 09/25/14 03:09, Johan Vermeulen wrote: op 25-09-14 09:01, Johan Vermeulen schreef: op 25-09-14 02:46, Tom Bishop schreef: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs were gone. Every one (all couple doze

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Johan Vermeulen
op 25-09-14 09:01, Johan Vermeulen schreef: op 25-09-14 02:46, Tom Bishop schreef: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs were gone. Every one (all couple dozen...) mark, CentOS 6.5 ___

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Johan Vermeulen
op 25-09-14 02:46, Tom Bishop schreef: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs were gone. Every one (all couple dozen...) mark, CentOS 6.5 ___ CentOS

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-24 Thread Tom Bishop
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: > I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* > of my tabs were gone. Every one (all couple dozen...) > > mark, CentOS 6.5 > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org

[CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-24 Thread mark
I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs were gone. Every one (all couple dozen...) mark, CentOS 6.5 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos