> I mean if you go from supplying perl and some perl-scripted functionality, you
> either have to drop the functionality or some engineer has to rewrite the code
> in a different language - something that usually isn't cheap. I've never
> tried
> perl2c - if such a thing exists it probably embeds
On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 17:26 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
> I mean if you go from supplying perl and some perl-scripted
> functionality, you
> either have to drop the functionality or some engineer has to rewrite
> the code
> in a different language
The perl interpreter is already written in C so
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Can you put a realistic price on what the extra resources would cost
these days?
>>> Clearly you've never worked for a large company if you even ask that
>>> question.
>>>
>>> A $1 difference in cost over 100,000 units sold is $100,000 in your
>>> pocket.
>>>
>>>
> On 2/5/2010 5:22 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Les Mikesell
>> wrote:
>>> Can you put a realistic price on what the extra resources would cost
>>> these days?
>>
>> Clearly you've never worked for a large company if you even ask that
>> question.
>>
>> A $1 difference i
On 2/5/2010 5:22 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> Can you put a realistic price on what the extra resources would cost
>> these days?
>
> Clearly you've never worked for a large company if you even ask that question.
>
> A $1 difference in cost over 10
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Can you put a realistic price on what the extra resources would cost
> these days?
Clearly you've never worked for a large company if you even ask that question.
A $1 difference in cost over 100,000 units sold is $100,000 in your pocket.
I r
Les Mikesell wrote:
>> We removed it from the Nortel BCM because the perl installation
>> accounted for more than half the space on our embedded Linux.
>>
>
> Can you put a realistic price on what the extra resources would cost
> these days?
>
when you're running on an embedded single chi
On 2/5/2010 12:09 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:45 PM, wrote:
>> Never had a problem with perl updates breaking anything. I do remember a
>> few years back, when it seemed as though any time I tried to install or
>> upgrade something that was in python, it *ALWAYS* wanted a dif
On 2/5/2010 11:30 AM, Alan McKay wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>
>> Python just seems like something that should be avoided in system
>> management tools. Remember having to do special case things like having
>> to 'yum update python\* yum\*' sometimes to keep the
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:45 PM, wrote:
> Never had a problem with perl updates breaking anything. I do remember a
> few years back, when it seemed as though any time I tried to install or
> upgrade something that was in python, it *ALWAYS* wanted a different
> subrelease, and upgrading that woul
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Les Mikesell
> wrote:
>
>> Python just seems like something that should be avoided in system
>> management tools. Remember having to do special case things like having
>> to 'yum update python\* yum\*' sometimes to keep the rest of an update
>> from breaking?
>
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Python just seems like something that should be avoided in system
> management tools. Remember having to do special case things like having
> to 'yum update python\* yum\*' sometimes to keep the rest of an update
> from breaking?
Yes, I fee
On 2/5/2010 8:44 AM, Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
> Alan McKay wrote:
>>> It depends on what you need to do. If you really have enough machines
>>> or long-running jobs that a shell loop through them isn't practical, you
>>> might want something higher-level like cfengine or puppet, or at least
>>> so
Alan McKay wrote:
>> It depends on what you need to do. If you really have enough machines
>> or long-running jobs that a shell loop through them isn't practical, you
>> might want something higher-level like cfengine or puppet, or at least
>> something running under cron to make them independent.
>
> In (HPC) clustering pdsh is very popular. It's available in .tgz with
> spec-file and rebuilds nicely on c5 with rpmbuild -tb ...
>
> https://computing.llnl.gov/linux/pdsh.html
>
Coming from the HPC world I've been a long time PDSH user. I believe it is
available in rpmforge, so there is
Am Donnerstag, den 04.02.2010, 19:31 +0100 schrieb Alan McKay:
> > It depends on what you need to do. If you really have enough machines
> > or long-running jobs that a shell loop through them isn't practical, you
> > might want something higher-level like cfengine or puppet, or at least
> > somet
On Thursday 04 February 2010, Alan McKay wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> I stumbled upon this while looking for something else
>
> http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/151340
>
> And it is something I could actually really make use of. But right on
> that site they list 3 different ones, and so I'm wonder
On 02/04/2010 06:31 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
> cfengine or puppet (or something else - slackmaster?) are where I want
slackmaster, i dont know about - but are you refering to 'slack' ? its a
fairly easy way to get started, and is essentially a wrapper around
rsync. takes about 2 min to get setup an
On 2/4/2010 12:45 PM, nate wrote:
> Alan McKay wrote:
>
>> I was actually going to start another "configuration management redux"
>> thread as a follow up to a thread I started a few months ago.
>
> As Les mentioned, it's far more common in that situation to use
> ssh key authentication and a for l
I've been using clusterit for several years for multiple small
clusters. It works well
and was easy to install. I believe I got the Fedora source RPM and rebuilt
it for CentOS.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Gavin Carr wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 01:31:39PM -0500, Alan McKay wrote:
>> > I
On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
And it is something I could actually really make use of. But right on
that site they list 3 different ones, and so I'm wondering what all is
out there and what I should use.
the most comprehensive list of such things of which i am aware is here
On 2/4/2010 12:31 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
>> It depends on what you need to do. If you really have enough machines
>> or long-running jobs that a shell loop through them isn't practical, you
>> might want something higher-level like cfengine or puppet, or at least
>> something running under cron to
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 01:31:39PM -0500, Alan McKay wrote:
> > It depends on what you need to do. If you really have enough machines
> > or long-running jobs that a shell loop through them isn't practical, you
> > might want something higher-level like cfengine or puppet, or at least
> > somethin
Alan McKay wrote:
> I was actually going to start another "configuration management redux"
> thread as a follow up to a thread I started a few months ago.
As Les mentioned, it's far more common in that situation to use
ssh key authentication and a for loop, if your ssh key has a pass
phrase use a
> It depends on what you need to do. If you really have enough machines
> or long-running jobs that a shell loop through them isn't practical, you
> might want something higher-level like cfengine or puppet, or at least
> something running under cron to make them independent.
cfengine or puppet (
On 2/4/2010 11:45 AM, Alan McKay wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> I stumbled upon this while looking for something else
>
> http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/151340
>
> And it is something I could actually really make use of. But right on
> that site they list 3 different ones, and so I'm wondering what
Hey folks,
I stumbled upon this while looking for something else
http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/151340
And it is something I could actually really make use of. But right on
that site they list 3 different ones, and so I'm wondering what all is
out there and what I should use.
Is there on
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