Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Lars Hecking
> You may want to try VMware-player if you, (like almost everyone else) > preferred 1.x to 2.x. The later versions of player are more like 1.x, > allowing you to install an operating system from ISO or whatever, and > work quite well with 64 bit CentOS. If you want automation, forget player.

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread John R Pierce
On 02/25/11 8:04 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > Windows-hosted version of Server 2.x didn't have those problems. > I found all versions of VMware Server 2.0.x to be unstable under load on multiple different platforms and essentially unusable. That was when I switched those systems over to VBox _

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/25/2011 11:24 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:11 AM, David Brian Chait wrote: >>> VMware Workstation has no issues with the glibc update; VMware is just not >>> properly supporting VMware Server, has nothing to do with Red Hat (Ubuntu >>> is also listed as a supported OS,

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:11 AM, David Brian Chait wrote: >> VMware Workstation has no issues with the glibc update; VMware is just not >> properly supporting VMware Server, has nothing to do with Red Hat (Ubuntu is >> also listed as a supported OS, yet when you do the glibc update that matches

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread David Brian Chait
> VMware Workstation has no issues with the glibc update; VMware is just not > properly supporting VMware Server, has nothing to do with Red Hat (Ubuntu is > also listed as a supported OS, yet when you do the glibc update that matches > > > the one that causes the issues on RHEL, the same thing

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, February 25, 2011 11:04:23 am Les Mikesell wrote: > RHEL5 was never a 'supported' > platform, so a stable module wasn't included. According to VMware's documentation, RHEL5 was and is a fully supported platform for VMware Server 2.0 (see page 26 of the current 'VMware Server User's

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/25/2011 8:36 AM, Ross Walker wrote: > > Also, VMware could have made their module load across kernel updates without > recompile if they had set their kernel module up to support KABI (kernel ABI) > tracking, but they didn't. That was the other strange thing. RHEL5 was never a 'supported'

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread David Sommerseth
On 25/02/11 14:52, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 2/25/11 4:48 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> > >>> >> Anyway, my point was that the fabled library ABI stability of RHEL >>> >> turned out >>> >> not to work for VMware Server 2.0. But CentOS did come through with >>> >> bug-for-bug compatibility as promis

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Ross Walker
On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 2/25/11 7:33 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:36:28PM -0800, David Brian Chait wrote: >>> >>> I think you need to download the VI3 rather than 4.1 to use 32 bit support, >>> but it does work. I have it in production on

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Ross Walker
On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 02/24/2011 10:47 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> On 2/24/11 8:56 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 03:44:32PM +1300, Machin, Greg wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Rather use ESXi 4.1 and get up and running quickly. If your h

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/25/11 7:33 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:36:28PM -0800, David Brian Chait wrote: >> >> I think you need to download the VI3 rather than 4.1 to use 32 bit support, >> but it does work. I have it in production on some older hardware and it has >> not let me down yet. >

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/25/11 4:48 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > >> Anyway, my point was that the fabled library ABI stability of RHEL turned out >> not to work for VMware Server 2.0. But CentOS did come through with >> bug-for-bug compatibility as promised, causing the same crashing behavior >> after >> the same min

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:36:28PM -0800, David Brian Chait wrote: > > I think you need to download the VI3 rather than 4.1 to use 32 bit support, > but it does work. I have it in production on some older hardware and it has > not let me down yet. I believe David is correct. We had some old ma

[CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Benjamin Franz
On 02/24/2011 06:04 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > > Can someone remind me why VMware server 2.x broke with a RHEL/CentOS 5.x glibc > update? I switched back to 1.x which I like better anyway, but if the reason > for putting up with oldness is to keep that from happening, it didn't work. Ultimately it

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/24/2011 10:47 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 2/24/11 8:56 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 03:44:32PM +1300, Machin, Greg wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> Rather use ESXi 4.1 and get >>> up and running quickly. If your hardware is not on the supported list >>> there are other lists of

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-25 Thread Ian Forde
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 22:47 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > Player isn't good for most of my usage because most of the time I don't want > the > console display at all - I just connect to the guests remotely with > freenx/ssh/vnc when necessary. And I have Server 1.x setups that have run > for >

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-24 Thread David Brian Chait
> Thanks, I did not know that. I could've swarn I had tested it on some > old IBM x306. Will have to take a look into that. > I still like that automation that I get with CentOS, puppet and VirtualBox. > Ben I think you need to download the VI3 rather than 4.1 to use 32 bit support, but it d

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-24 Thread Ben
On 25/02/2011 4:51 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 02/24/11 9:18 PM, Ben wrote: >> I have begun to switch all my hosts without hardware virtualization, so >> can't use ESXi, to VirtualBox. > ESXi only needs hardware virtualization support for 64bit guest VMs. > as long as you can live with 32bit VMs,

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-24 Thread John R Pierce
On 02/24/11 9:18 PM, Ben wrote: > I have begun to switch all my hosts without hardware virtualization, so > can't use ESXi, to VirtualBox. ESXi only needs hardware virtualization support for 64bit guest VMs. as long as you can live with 32bit VMs, you're good with older CPUs. I have it runnin

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-24 Thread David Brian Chait
On 2/24/11 8:56 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 03:44:32PM +1300, Machin, Greg wrote: > > > > >> Rather use ESXi 4.1 and get >> up and running quickly. If your hardware is not on the supported list >> there are other lists of tested hardware where people have it running on >> "

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-24 Thread Ben
On 25/02/2011 1:13 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:04:08PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: >> Can someone remind me why VMware server 2.x broke with a RHEL/CentOS 5.x >> glibc >> update? I switched back to 1.x which I like better anyway, but if the reason >> for putting up with o

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-24 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/24/11 8:56 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 03:44:32PM +1300, Machin, Greg wrote: > > > > >> Rather use ESXi 4.1 and get >> up and running quickly. If your hardware is not on the supported list >> there are other lists of tested hardware where people have it running on >> "U

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-24 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 03:44:32PM +1300, Machin, Greg wrote: > Rather use ESXi 4.1 and get > up and running quickly. If your hardware is not on the supported list > there are other lists of tested hardware where people have it running on > "Unsupported" hardware. > > Player is not a solution

Re: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-24 Thread Machin, Greg
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Scott Robbins Sent: Friday, 25 February 2011 3:14 p.m. To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version) On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:04:08PM -0600, Les Mikese

[CentOS] VMware (was Re: current bind version)

2011-02-24 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:04:08PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > Can someone remind me why VMware server 2.x broke with a RHEL/CentOS 5.x > glibc > update? I switched back to 1.x which I like better anyway, but if the reason > for putting up with oldness is to keep that from happening, it didn't