[CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-18 Thread Scott Silva
on 11-14-2008 1:09 PM Amos Shapira spake the following: > Is there a way to "freeze" a list of installed packages and exact > versions, then tell yum (or any other tool/script) to install exactly > these verions either on the same or another systme? > > I'm asking from perspective of being able to

Re: [CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-16 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/11/16 Ian Forde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Actually, that's the problem that Red Hat Satellite Server can solve. > You can approve packages for deployment. Thus, when provisioning new > servers, they get updates from the approved list. And servers are > grouped by class. For the free version, o

Re: [CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-15 Thread Ian Forde
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 15:08 -0700, Warren Young wrote: > Amos Shapira wrote: > > Is there a way to "freeze" a list of installed packages and exact > > versions, then tell yum (or any other tool/script) to install exactly > > these verions either on the same or another systme? > > There isn't a nee

Re: [CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-15 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/11/16 Nicolas Thierry-Mieg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Amos Shapira wrote: >> >> I'll try to try to find or build something based on "rpm -qa" and "yum". > > no reason to use yum: it's for resolving dependencies, but in your case they > would already be resolved. > Instead you could more simply

Re: [CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-15 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Amos Shapira wrote: I'll try to try to find or build something based on "rpm -qa" and "yum". no reason to use yum: it's for resolving dependencies, but in your case they would already be resolved. Instead you could more simply and reliably wget the files and rpm -U them. __

Re: [CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-15 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/11/15 Warren Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [ long rant in favor of keeping the entire yum cache instead of a list of package versions deleted ] >> move around entire cache backups across continents. > > Continents?? What, now we're worried about protecting against total > continental destructi

Re: [CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-14 Thread Warren Young
Amos Shapira wrote: Assuming I take the approach you suggest and have to restore the cache (with the tested versions) after it's lost in a disaster, is there a way to do that (short of backing it up)? I don't see why this is a big deal. First off, even way out at the end of a RHEL/CentOS rele

Re: [CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-14 Thread Amos Shapira
Looks good. And is there a tool which can read this output and fetch the right packages from the right repositories, or do I have to write my own? Would a script which massages this into an input for "| xargs yum install" be the way to go? Thanks! --Amos On 11/15/08, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg <[EMA

Re: [CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-14 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Amos Shapira wrote: What about disaster recovery? Assuming I take the approach you suggest and have to restore the cache (with the tested versions) after it's lost in a disaster, is there a way to do that (short of backing it up)? I'd rather be able to keep a list of package versions instead of

Re: [CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-14 Thread Amos Shapira
What about disaster recovery? Assuming I take the approach you suggest and have to restore the cache (with the tested versions) after it's lost in a disaster, is there a way to do that (short of backing it up)? I'd rather be able to keep a list of package versions instead of having to move around

Re: [CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-14 Thread Warren Young
Amos Shapira wrote: Is there a way to "freeze" a list of installed packages and exact versions, then tell yum (or any other tool/script) to install exactly these verions either on the same or another systme? There isn't a need for an explicit feature. Just update one server, test it, then cop

Re: [CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-14 Thread Amos Shapira
Is there a way to "freeze" a list of installed packages and exact versions, then tell yum (or any other tool/script) to install exactly these verions either on the same or another systme? I'm asking from perspective of being able to update and test in my test or staging environment then when tests

[CentOS] Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-11 Thread Marc Schwartz
Kevin Kempter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi All; > > I'm awaiting a new linux laptop that will be my primary work machine. I want > to implement a strategy that allows me as easily as possible to revert back > to a former state. My primary concern is a scenario where I apply system > updates