Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

Timothy Murphy wrote: > Rex Dieter wrote: > >> The moral of my story is to prevent issues languishing downstream >> indefinitely, to avoid the kind of comment "this bug has been around >> forever, why is it still a problem and not fixed?", which does no one any >> good, esp when upstreams aren't

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

Timothy Murphy wrote: > You are going to find this difficult to believe, > but I did not actually understand your reference to "upstream" > in response to my query (I was the OP). "Upstream" is literally where the water you're seeing in the river is coming from. For software, it means where the so

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

Rex Dieter wrote: > The moral of my story is to prevent issues languishing downstream > indefinitely, to avoid the kind of comment "this bug has been around > forever, why is it still a problem and not fixed?", which does no one any > good, esp when upstreams aren't made aware of the issues (which

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 24 June 2009 01:41:07 Kevin Kofler wrote: >> I know what distribution packagers do, I am a Fedora KDE packager. And we >> ask users to report their bugs upstream unless there is evidence that >> they're specific to Fedora. The vast majority of bugs which are repor

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Filipe Brandenburger wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 20:41, Kevin Kofler > wrote: > >> I again reiterate: have you tested this on a vanilla installation of > KDE? > >> Don't assume its an upstream bug until you have verified it by getting > the > >> upstream so

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

On 6/23/09 8:39 PM, "Filipe Brandenburger" wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 20:41, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> I again reiterate: have you tested this on a vanilla installation of KDE? >>> Don't assume its an upstream bug until you have verified it by getting the >>> upstream sources and tes

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

On Wednesday 24 June 2009 01:41:07 Kevin Kofler wrote: > I know what distribution packagers do, I am a Fedora KDE packager. And we > ask users to report their bugs upstream unless there is evidence that > they're specific to Fedora. The vast majority of bugs which are reported to > us are NOT speci

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

Hi, On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 20:41, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> I again reiterate: have you tested this on a vanilla installation of KDE? >> Don't assume its an upstream bug until you have verified it by getting the >> upstream sources and testing it. > > this is an upstream bug and needs to be reported

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

Gary Greene wrote: > I again reiterate: have you tested this on a vanilla installation of KDE? No. In fact I haven't personally tested this at all, the OP did. > Don't assume its an upstream bug until you have verified it by getting the > upstream sources and testing it. This demand makes no sen

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

On 6/23/09 2:37 PM, "Kevin Kofler" wrote: > Gary Greene wrote: >> Debian patches the hell out of KDE, and so do most other distros, this bug >> should not be called a "KDE" bug unless you've completely verified with >> vanilla source and have fully analyzed the code paths to assure that it >> isn'

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

Gary Greene wrote: > Debian patches the hell out of KDE, and so do most other distros, this bug > should not be called a "KDE" bug unless you've completely verified with > vanilla source and have fully analyzed the code paths to assure that it > isn't a distribution patch that screwed the pooch. H

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

On Tuesday 23 June 2009 21:56:21 Gary Greene wrote: > Anne, the quoting on this got screwed, I'm not the one with the mail issue, > since I build my own KDE builds and generally pull patches from the PIM > Enterprise branch (I was the konstruct maintainer, so building from source > for me isn't sca

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

[On 6/23/09 7:53 AM, "Rex Dieter" wrote: > Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> Rex Dieter wrote: > But I have worked out that the cause of the problem > is that there exists a kind of ghost folder, "uidvalidity", > which is listed among the folders on the kmail page > but does not in fact

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

Anne, the quoting on this got screwed, I'm not the one with the mail issue, since I build my own KDE builds and generally pull patches from the PIM Enterprise branch (I was the konstruct maintainer, so building from source for me isn't scary). I was commenting on the issue that Timothy was having.

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

On Jun 23, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > But having read the web-page, I still do not really understand. > In my case there is a folder "uidvalidity" listed by kmail, > but there is no file or directory with that name on the dovecot > server. Maybe it's an unrecognized imap respons

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

Filipe Brandenburger wrote: Years? Bugs filed? If so, where? >>> >>> At random, here is one from 2006: >>> > > Timothy, did you read that web page? > > An excerpt: >> I figured out how this bug could be resolved. KMail has introduc

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:53, Rex Dieter wrote: > Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Rex Dieter wrote: >>> Years?  Bugs filed?  If so, where? >> >> At random, here is one from 2006: >> Timothy, did you read that web page? An excerpt: > I figured ou

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

Timothy Murphy wrote: > Rex Dieter wrote: But I have worked out that the cause of the problem is that there exists a kind of ghost folder, "uidvalidity", which is listed among the folders on the kmail page but does not in fact seem to exist in my maildir on the server. >>

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

On Tuesday 23 June 2009 14:12:09 Rex Dieter wrote: > Gary Greene wrote: > > On 6/20/09 5:43 AM, "Timothy Murphy" > > > >> But I have worked out that the cause of the problem > >> is that there exists a kind of ghost folder, "uidvalidity", > >> which is listed among the folders on the kmail page > >

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

Rex Dieter wrote: >>> But I have worked out that the cause of the problem >>> is that there exists a kind of ghost folder, "uidvalidity", >>> which is listed among the folders on the kmail page >>> but does not in fact seem to exist in my maildir on the server. >>> >>> Deleting the folder under km

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

Gary Greene wrote: > On 6/20/09 5:43 AM, "Timothy Murphy" >> But I have worked out that the cause of the problem >> is that there exists a kind of ghost folder, "uidvalidity", >> which is listed among the folders on the kmail page >> but does not in fact seem to exist in my maildir on the server.

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

On 6/22/09 12:31 PM, "Gary Greene" wrote: > On 6/20/09 5:43 AM, "Timothy Murphy" wrote: >> I'm running a dovecot/IMAP server under CentOS-5.3 on my desktop, >> reading the mail with KMail on my laptop. >> >> I have what seems a venerable and well-documented problem/bug; >> when I click on "Check

Re: [CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

On 6/20/09 5:43 AM, "Timothy Murphy" wrote: > I'm running a dovecot/IMAP server under CentOS-5.3 on my desktop, > reading the mail with KMail on my laptop. > > I have what seems a venerable and well-documented problem/bug; > when I click on "Check Mail" I get an error message > "Error while getti

[CentOS] Minor dovecot/KMail problem

I'm running a dovecot/IMAP server under CentOS-5.3 on my desktop, reading the mail with KMail on my laptop. I have what seems a venerable and well-documented problem/bug; when I click on "Check Mail" I get an error message "Error while getting folder information" ... Actually, this doesn't appear