Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-14 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:40 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: > On 14/12/10 02:15, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> Well, yes. But the edge on RHEL 5 is 4 years old,a nd RHEL 6 (end >> eventually CentOS 6) will have been blunted for a year by the time >> it's published. It's a problem if you try to backpor

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-14 Thread Kevin Thorpe
On 13/12/2010 19:03, Eero Volotinen wrote: > 2010/12/13 Gé Weijers: >> On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >>> RHEL is much better about that, although by now the "production" RHEL >>> 5 is 4 years out of date, the "leading edge" RHEL 6 is now one year >>> out of date after the lengthy r

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-14 Thread Mathieu Baudier
> And also take into consideration that RHEL6 is shipped with approx. > 2.000 packages.  And there are over 10.000 packages available for > Fedora.  Such a limited package scope is needed to be able to provide > stability.  And this stability is why so many loves to run > RHEL/CentOS/ScientificLinu

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-14 Thread David Sommerseth
On 14/12/10 02:15, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Gé Weijers wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> >>> RHEL is much better about that, although by now the "production" RHEL >>> 5 is 4 years out of date, the "leading edge" RHEL 6 is now one y

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Christopher Chan
On Tuesday, December 14, 2010 02:28 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Oog... I just looked that up > > > mark "not sure I want to know where no man has cut before"

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Gé Weijers wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> RHEL is much better about that, although by now  the "production" RHEL >> 5 is 4 years out of date, the "leading edge" RHEL 6 is now one year >> out of date after the lengthy release testing

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/12/13 Gé Weijers : > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> RHEL is much better about that, although by now  the "production" RHEL >> 5 is 4 years out of date, the "leading edge" RHEL 6 is now one year >> out of date after the lengthy release testing, and CentOS will always >>

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Gé Weijers
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > RHEL is much better about that, although by now the "production" RHEL > 5 is 4 years out of date, the "leading edge" RHEL 6 is now one year > out of date after the lengthy release testing, and CentOS will always > lag that. I believe "out of date

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday, December 13, 2010 01:03:03 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> >> What does 'enterprise' mean to you? >> > >> > Space. The final frontier... >> >> Hey, that's the question, when you're trying to get new, bigger disks! > > What we need is a working warp drive. These magnet

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 13, 2010 01:03:03 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >> What does 'enterprise' mean to you? > > > > Space. The final frontier... > > Hey, that's the question, when you're trying to get new, bigger disks! What we need is a working warp drive. These magnetic impulse drives are still

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Ray Van Dolson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:55:12PM -0500, Kristopher Kane wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek wrote: >> >> > Hello all. >> > >> > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? >> > >> >> What does 'enterprise' mean to you? > > Space. The fi

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: > >> Anyone who advocates maintaining from source has simply never >> administered more than a handful of machines at a time. >> >> Great way to learn, but impractical for hundreds to thousands of >> machines. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portage_%28softwa

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:55:12PM -0500, Kristopher Kane wrote: > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek wrote: > > > Hello all. > > > > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? > > > > What does 'enterprise' mean to you? Space. The final frontier... _

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Kristopher Kane
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek wrote: > Hello all. > > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? > What does 'enterprise' mean to you? -Kristopher Kane ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/m

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 05:47:53PM +, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: > > > Anyone who advocates maintaining from source has simply never > > administered more than a handful of machines at a time. > > > > Great way to learn, but impractical for hundreds to thousands of > > machines. >

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread lhecking
> Anyone who advocates maintaining from source has simply never > administered more than a handful of machines at a time. > > Great way to learn, but impractical for hundreds to thousands of > machines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portage_%28software%29#Binary_Packages http://www.gentoo.org/

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:22:28PM -0500, Brian Mathis wrote: > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek wrote: > > Hello all. > > > > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? > > > > I have the following situation. I tried to promote CentOS to local > > bank. They have now

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Brian Mathis
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek wrote: > Hello all. > > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? > > I have the following situation. I tried to promote CentOS to local bank. They > have now a couple of Gentoo-based systems and I tried to explain them that > CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 13, 2010, at 5:02 AM, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: >> They are OK with the roll-your-own style of Gentoo? >> >> Especially with it's cutting edge versions, bugs, security holes and the >> only way to overcome them is to upgrade to an even newer version that may >> break compatib

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 13, 2010, at 5:02 AM, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: >> They are OK with the roll-your-own style of Gentoo? >> >> Especially with it's cutting edge versions, bugs, security holes and the >> only way to overcome them is to upgrade to an even newer version that may >> break compatib

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:02 AM, wrote: > >> They are OK with the roll-your-own style of Gentoo? >> >> Especially with it's cutting edge versions, bugs, security holes and the >> only way to overcome them is to upgrade to an even newer version that may >> break compatibility, introduce new bugs

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread lhecking
> They are OK with the roll-your-own style of Gentoo? > > Especially with it's cutting edge versions, bugs, security holes and the only > way to overcome them is to upgrade to an even newer version that may break > compatibility, introduce new bugs, zero-day vulnerabilities, the list goes on >

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-12 Thread Nicholas
Is the the system for a bank need critical?  then pay for RHEL  else install CENTOS Its the mentality of people and lack of exposure to technology that hinders people from moving forward. Recently the MyGOSSCON 2010 (http://mygosscon.oscc.org.my) saw more gove

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-12 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 12, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Zdenek wrote: > Hello all. > > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? I do, but I have it easy because I am the IT management. > I have the following situation. I tried to promote CentOS to local bank. They > have now a couple of Gentoo-b

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-12 Thread Mathieu Baudier
> I have the following situation. I tried to promote CentOS to local bank. They > have now a couple of Gentoo-based systems and I tried to explain them that > CentOS is much better option for enterprises. We deployed a CentOS based virtualized appliance for a (non-critical) application developed

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-12 Thread Negative
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > At Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:45:23 +0100 CentOS mailing list > wrote: > > > > > Hello all. > > > > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? > > > > I have the following situation. I tried to promote CentOS to local bank. >

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-12 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/12/12 Zdenek : > Hello all. > > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? Yes and no. Maybe you should select RHEL for enterprises? -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/cen

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-12 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:45:23 +0100 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > Hello all. > > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? > > I have the following situation. I tried to promote CentOS to local bank. They > have now a couple of Gentoo-based systems and I tried to explai

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Zdenek wrote: > Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? > > I have the following situation. I tried to promote CentOS to local bank. They > have now a couple of Gentoo-based systems and I tried to explain them that > CentOS is much bette

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-12 Thread Luigi Rosa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zdenek said the following on 12/12/10 17:45: > Are there any public resources that can be used as proofs of CentOS stability? Are there about Windows stability? Ciao, luigi - -- / +--[Luigi Rosa]-- \ To iterate is human, to recourse, divine. ---

[CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-12 Thread Zdenek
Hello all. Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? I have the following situation. I tried to promote CentOS to local bank. They have now a couple of Gentoo-based systems and I tried to explain them that CentOS is much better option for enterprises. IT department is int