Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-05 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Scott Silva wrote: > on 2-4-2009 1:43 PM Frank Cox spake the following: >> On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:36:30 -0500 >> Lanny Marcus wrote: >> >>> Also, I am reminded that I need to take our 2 fire extinguishers to >>> the fire station and pay them to discharge/recharge th

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-05 Thread Scott Silva
on 2-5-2009 4:41 AM Brent L. Bates spake the following: > Personally, I find this UPS exploding paranoia rather ridiculous. One > person has one UPS burst into flames and everyone is yelling the sky is > falling. We have no idea what conditions the UPS had been subjected to and to > then jum

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-05 Thread Scott Silva
on 2-4-2009 1:43 PM Frank Cox spake the following: > On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:36:30 -0500 > Lanny Marcus wrote: > >> Also, I am reminded that I need to take our 2 fire extinguishers to >> the fire station and pay them to discharge/recharge them.:-) > > Are you sure you need a full discharge/rec

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-05 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Brent L. Bates wrote: > Personally, I find this UPS exploding paranoia rather ridiculous. One > person has one UPS burst into flames and everyone is yelling the sky is > falling. We have no idea what conditions the UPS had been subjected to and to > then jump

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-05 Thread Brent L. Bates
Personally, I find this UPS exploding paranoia rather ridiculous. One person has one UPS burst into flames and everyone is yelling the sky is falling. We have no idea what conditions the UPS had been subjected to and to then jump to the conclusion that all UPS's are bombs waiting to explode

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Scott Silva >Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:01 PM >To: centos@centos.org >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >Looking again at the incident

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:36:30 -0500 Lanny Marcus wrote: > Also, I am reminded that I need to take our 2 fire extinguishers to > the fire station and pay them to discharge/recharge them.:-) Are you sure you need a full discharge/recharge? I have several in my theatre and they have to be inspec

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Scott Silva wrote: > I just had a Back-UPS of about 1998 vintage burst into flames about 6 >months > ago. Luckily, someone was near it and grabbed a fire extinguisher. It was a > Saturday, and if this person hadn't been in on overtime, who knows what >would > have

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Scott Silva
on 2-4-2009 7:16 AM Sorin Srbu spake the following: >> -Original Message- >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf > Of >> Toby Bluhm >> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:44 PM >> To: CentOS mailing list >>

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Scott Silva
on 2-3-2009 11:57 PM Sorin Srbu spake the following: >> -Original Message- >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >> Of >> Scott Silva >> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:45 PM >> To: centos@centos.org >&

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Toby Bluhm >Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:44 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >Oh, there's lots of bad

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Toby Bluhm
Rainer Duffner wrote: > Sorin Srbu schrieb: >>> -Original Message- >>> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On >>> Behalf Of >>> Scott Silva >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:45 PM >>> To: cen

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Rainer Duffner
Sorin Srbu schrieb: >> -Original Message- >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >> Of >> Scott Silva >> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:45 PM >> To: centos@centos.org >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emerg

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Scott Silva >Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:45 PM >To: centos@centos.org >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >I just had a Back-UPS of about

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Les Mikesell >Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:42 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >> hospital with power-ba

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread John R Pierce
tech wrote: > John R Pierce wrote: > >> all the BackUPs I've ever seen have been simple relay switched units. >> when the power is on, you're getting unfiltered power (except for a MOV >> based surge protector), when the power is out, it switches to the >> "modified square wave" inverter

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread tech
John R Pierce wrote: > all the BackUPs I've ever seen have been simple relay switched units. > when the power is on, you're getting unfiltered power (except for a MOV > based surge protector), when the power is out, it switches to the > "modified square wave" inverter output. John, There a

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Scott Silva
Pierce >>> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:52 PM >>> To: CentOS mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed >>> >>> Sorin Srbu wrote: >>>> I've been buying from the Smart-UPS and Back-UPS range. Those should be

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread John R Pierce
Anne Wilson wrote: > Actually, I have one box attached to a BackUPS that is about 15 years old, > and > has never had a replacement battery. It holds the box through power > variations, and can supply power for a couple of minutes - enough to allow a > shutdown, since that box is never running

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Les Mikesell
Sorin Srbu wrote: > > The voltage has been fairly constant here over the years since I started using > UPS and logging the voltage and stuff, 238V more or less constantly. It rarely > drops below 236V or over 240V. We mainly use the UPS:es to have controlled > shutdowns should the power fail enti

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Anne Wilson
: CentOS mailing list > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > > > >Sorin Srbu wrote: > >> I've been buying from the Smart-UPS and Back-UPS range. Those should be > >> ok, shouldn't they? > > > >SmartUPS, OK. BackUPS, cheap consu

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >John R Pierce >Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:52 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >Sorin Srbu wrote: >> I

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >John R Pierce >Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:49 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >> Oh, didn't know abo

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Les Mikesell >Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:20 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >> I've been buying

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread John R Pierce
I've always felt UPS's should be in pairs, one for each side of each server's redundant PSUs. that way you can take one UPS offline entirely for service, whatever, and the systems can continue to be protected by the other UPS via their 2nd PSU. _

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Dick Roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > Sorin Srbu wrote: Marking words: "used" to be best? Which is the best now then? APC is apparantely not an option as they suck bigtime IMO, so what's? Powerware and APC are the two biggest and most wellknown UPS-manufacturers I know of. >>> APC does make a

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread John R Pierce
Sorin Srbu wrote: > I've been buying from the Smart-UPS and Back-UPS range. Those should be ok, > shouldn't they? SmartUPS, OK. BackUPS, cheap consumer junk. I've had to toss out dozens of various BackUPS units, mostly in the 450-600VA range... They act like they have a dead/weak batte

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread John R Pierce
Sorin Srbu wrote: > Oh, didn't know about Best Power. Is that something like Eatons budget-line > brand or something? > Best Power made the excellent midsized FerrUPS units 10+ years ago. washing machine sized 7kva kinda stuff. built like a tank, very serviceable. Eaton also acquired Sola,

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Sorin Srbu wrote: >> >>> Marking words: "used" to be best? Which is the best now then? APC is >>> apparantely not an option as they suck bigtime IMO, so what's? Powerware and >>> APC are the two biggest and most wellknown UPS-manufacturers I know of. >> APC does make a full line of units. Perhaps

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Les Mikesell >Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:35 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >> Marking words: "use

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Toby Bluhm >Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:28 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >>> Eaton Powerware used

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Sorin Srbu wrote: > > Marking words: "used" to be best? Which is the best now then? APC is > apparantely not an option as they suck bigtime IMO, so what's? Powerware and > APC are the two biggest and most wellknown UPS-manufacturers I know of. APC does make a full line of units. Perhaps you are

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Toby Bluhm
Sorin Srbu wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf > Of >> John R Pierce >> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:49 PM >> To: CentOS mailing list >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency r

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >John R Pierce >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:49 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >Eaton Powerware used to be

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-31 Thread John
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:01 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > > On Saturday 31 Ja

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 31 January 2009 16:29:32 John wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: centos-boun...@centos.org > > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Toby Bluhm > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:05 AM > > To: CentOS mailing list > > Subject

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-31 Thread John
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Toby Bluhm > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:05 AM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > > John wrot

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 22:20:17 Glenn wrote: > At 04:57 PM 1/30/2009, you wrote: > >On Friday 30 January 2009 20:51:53 Glenn wrote: > > > Are you located in U.S., U.K. or Europe? I couldn't tell? > > > >UK > > > >Anne > > Reason I asked is because APC has refurbished UPS for half price with > fr

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Glenn
At 04:57 PM 1/30/2009, you wrote: >On Friday 30 January 2009 20:51:53 Glenn wrote: > > > > Are you located in U.S., U.K. or Europe? I couldn't tell? > > >UK > >Anne Reason I asked is because APC has refurbished UPS for half price with free shipping a lot of the times in the US. I've had very good

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 21:27:12 Lanny Marcus wrote: > > Even if the battery in your APC UPS is fully charged now, I would > assume that it has been through the ringer, with what your village > experienced recently, power wise. I'm inclined to think so, too. Do you find that nut handles all bra

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 20:51:53 Glenn wrote: > > Are you located in U.S., U.K. or Europe? I couldn't tell? > UK Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.or

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 29 January 2009 17:32:00 Les Mikesell wrote: >> Anne Wilson wrote: >> >> Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on >> >> its own? >> >> >> >> If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a pr

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Glenn
At 03:28 PM 1/30/2009, you wrote: >On Friday 30 January 2009 19:33:24 John R Pierce wrote: > > Chris Boyd wrote: > > > On Jan 30, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: > > >> OK, thanks. I'll look around. I guess if they are selling 'standard' > > >> batteries they will have some way of making su

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 19:33:24 John R Pierce wrote: > Chris Boyd wrote: > > On Jan 30, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: > >> OK, thanks. I'll look around. I guess if they are selling 'standard' > >> batteries they will have some way of making sure that what I buy is > >> compatible. Ano

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread John R Pierce
Chris Boyd wrote: > On Jan 30, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: > > >> OK, thanks. I'll look around. I guess if they are selling 'standard' >> batteries they will have some way of making sure that what I buy is >> compatible. Another adventure :-) >> > > There's info on the battery

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Chris Boyd
On Jan 30, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: > OK, thanks. I'll look around. I guess if they are selling 'standard' > batteries they will have some way of making sure that what I buy is > compatible. Another adventure :-) There's info on the battery that will identify it. Voltage (typica

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Scott Silva
on 1-30-2009 5:20 AM jk...@kinz.org spake the following: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:45:11AM +, Michael Simpson wrote: >> now we just need to work out how to get BT to replace the rotten >> copper in the POTS system -used to get 1.4Mbs, now getting a flaky >> 300Kbs down (yet 800 up!) and BT's

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread John R Pierce
Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 30 January 2009 11:02:50 Sorin Srbu wrote: > >> Did you check Eaton Powerware? They are very competitively priced IMO. We >> bought APC's before as well, but I felt the controller software was not as >> smooth as it could've been and the battery replacement-program

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 29 January 2009 17:32:00 Les Mikesell wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > >> Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on > >> its own? > >> > >> If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. > >> If the former, maybe you need to invest in

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 17:17:00 Chris Boyd wrote: > On Jan 30, 2009, at 4:19 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: > > I know I was shocked at the price I had to pay last time I replaced > > the APC > > battery. My favourite vendor sells a lot of Liebert PowerSure UPSs, > > so I > > presume they have had no p

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Scott Silva
on 1-30-2009 12:15 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: > On Thursday 29 January 2009 23:46:12 Lanny Marcus wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Chris Boyd >> wrote: >>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: > You said that the UPS is fully charged. I wonder if you need a UPS >

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread jkinz
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:45:11AM +, Michael Simpson wrote: > > now we just need to work out how to get BT to replace the rotten > copper in the POTS system -used to get 1.4Mbs, now getting a flaky > 300Kbs down (yet 800 up!) and BT's response was to decrease the "fault > report level". Util

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Toby Bluhm
John wrote: . . . >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague. >> >> I just fixed a test box that kept getting something like >> "received INT >> 11 - no one cared" and then locks up. Replaced two caps - I >> yanked them >> from some old, defunct power supplies. > > - > How did you kn

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
iling list > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > > > >> However, in some cases it's cheaper to just get a whole new UPS... 8-/ > > > >I know I was shocked at the price I had to pay last time I replaced the > > APC battery. My favourite vend

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
iling list > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > > > >> Anne, is your motherboard an oldish MSI (Microstar)? > > > >No. It's MSI, but only 12 months old - K9N SLi Platinum > > Heh! All, and I really mean all!, of our MSI-mobos have suff

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Michael Simpson >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:45 AM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >[...snipped...] BT's

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Anne Wilson >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:21 AM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >> Anne, is your motherboa

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Anne Wilson >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:20 AM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >> However, in some cases

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread William L. Maltby
> >Anne Wilson > > >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:15 AM > > >To: CentOS mailing list > > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > > > > > >Technicalities of power supply are not in any way my expertise. Are you > > >sayin

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Michael Simpson
2009 5:37 PM > > >To: centos@centos.org > > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > > > > > >If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just be severely > > > trashed. Journals and files out of sync, etc... If a good fsck didn

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 09:32:27 Sorin Srbu wrote: > >-Original Message- > >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > > Behalf Of Scott Silva > >Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:37 PM > >To: centos@centos.org > >Subject

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
iling list > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague. > > Anne, is your motherboard an oldish MSI (Microstar)? No. It's MSI, but only 12 months old - K9N SLi Platinum

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
iling list > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > > > >Technicalities of power supply are not in any way my expertise. Are you > >saying that it would be wise to change the battery? > > Three, four years is a normal lifespan for a UPS-battery IIRC.

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Anne Wilson >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:15 AM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >Technicalities of power supp

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Toby Bluhm >Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:42 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Anne Wilson >Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:28 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >I do have a UPS, and it'

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Scott Silva >Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:18 PM >To: centos@centos.org >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >Are the failures power relate

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of >Scott Silva >Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:37 PM >To: centos@centos.org >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > >If you had many power failur

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 29 January 2009 23:46:12 Lanny Marcus wrote: > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Chris Boyd wrote: > > On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: > >>> You said that the UPS is fully charged. I wonder if you need a UPS > >>> with larger capacity and if your UPS is working properly.

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread John
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Toby Bluhm > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:42 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed > > Anne Wilson wrote: &

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Scott Silva
on 1-29-2009 4:29 PM Aldo Foot spake the following: > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Les Mikesell > wrote: >> Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a process

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Aldo Foot
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: >>> Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its >>> own? >>> >>> If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If >>> the former, maybe you need to invest in an inex

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Chris Boyd wrote: > On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: >>> You said that the UPS is fully charged. I wonder if you need a UPS >>> with larger capacity and if your UPS is working properly. >> >> I don't think there's any problem with the UPS (APC). > >

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Chris Boyd
On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: >> >> You said that the UPS is fully charged. I wonder if you need a UPS >> with larger capacity and if your UPS is working properly. > > I don't think there's any problem with the UPS (APC). I've seen APC rack mount systems shut down the power out

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Glenn
At 03:44 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: >On Thursday 29 January 2009 20:23:40 Lanny Marcus wrote: > > Assuming that the Diagnostic tests you run on the hard drive and RAM > > are OK, if the box was made by Dell, Compaq/HP, etc., they probably > > have Diagnostics you can run on the mobo/cpu that you can

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 29 January 2009 20:23:40 Lanny Marcus wrote: > Assuming that the Diagnostic tests you run on the hard drive and RAM > are OK, if the box was made by Dell, Compaq/HP, etc., they probably > have Diagnostics you can run on the mobo/cpu that you can Download > from their web site. If not, h

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 29 January 2009 20:23:40 Lanny Marcus wrote: > Anne, the machine I'm using right now ate my lunch big-time, perhaps a > year ago.  It turned out to be the front panel momentary power switch on > the junky consumer-grade case.  The really weird thing is, this box runs > 24x7 and the swit

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On 1/29/09, Anne Wilson wrote: > 2009/1/29 Les Mikesell : >> Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to in

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Robert
Anne Wilson wrote: > 2009/1/29 Les Mikesell : > >> Anne Wilson wrote: >> Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to inve

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
2009/1/29 Les Mikesell : > Anne Wilson wrote: >>> Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its >>> own? >>> >>> If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If >>> the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. >>> >> I do have

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Toby Bluhm
Anne Wilson wrote: . . . >> > I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just > spontaneously rebooting or shutting down. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague. I just fixed a test box that kept getting something like "received INT 11 - no one cared" and then locks up. R

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Scott Silva
on 1-29-2009 9:28 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: >> Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its >> own? >> >> If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If >> the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. >> > I do hav

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Anne Wilson wrote: >> Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its >> own? >> >> If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If >> the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. >> > I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. T

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
> Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its > own? > > If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If > the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. > I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just spontaneo

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Scott Silva
on 1-29-2009 9:02 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: > 2009/1/29 Scott Silva : >> on 1-29-2009 8:30 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: >>> 2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham >>> : On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: > I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham : > On Thursday 29 January 2009 11:37:00 am Scott Silva wrote: > >> >> If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just be severely >> trashed. Journals and files out of sync, etc... If a good fsck didn't fix >> it, you might just be in for a wipe-reinstall, or

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
2009/1/29 Franklin S Werren : > Use Spinrite from www.grc.com > It will work on any file system > I have used it on Windows - Ubuntu Linux - and even an X-Box > Works wonders > Data recovery isn't a problem - I've copied everything off. Still, I've bookmarked that, just in case. It's lucky I

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Franklin S Werren
Use Spinrite from www.grc.com It will work on any file system I have used it on Windows - Ubuntu Linux - and even an X-Box Works wonders Franklin S Werren Scott Silva wrote: > on 1-29-2009 8:30 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: > >> 2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham : >> >>> On Thursday

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
2009/1/29 Scott Silva : > on 1-29-2009 8:30 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: >> 2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham : >>> On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages from smartmontools. Is there any way I can ch

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Alex H. Vandenham
On Thursday 29 January 2009 11:37:00 am Scott Silva wrote: > > If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just be severely > trashed. Journals and files out of sync, etc... If a good fsck didn't fix > it, you might just be in for a wipe-reinstall, or many hours of finding and > fixing co

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Scott Silva
on 1-29-2009 8:30 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: > 2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham : >> On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: >>> I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages >>> from smartmontools. Is there any way I can check that? If it is I >>> don'

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham : > On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: >> I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages >> from smartmontools. Is there any way I can check that? If it is I >> don't want to waste time trying to repair it. > > try smartctl t

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Alex H. Vandenham
On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: > I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages > from smartmontools.  Is there any way I can check that?  If it is I > don't want to waste time trying to repair it. try smartctl to see what the monitors have been find

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Jeff
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: > I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages > from smartmontools. Is there any way I can check that? If it is I > don't want to waste time trying to repair it. Most hdd manufacturers have bootable CD images you can d

[CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
Since repeated power cuts last week I've been a bit worried about the state of my server. Today it spontaneously rebooted - but failed to complete. Now it isn't recognising me as a user, by the look of it, so I've got some questions before I do something that might make things worse. I can boot