Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Michael Simpson
On 9 January 2014 13:35, Leslie S Satenstein wrote: > As I see it, more and more alternatives to Oracle are in the market. > Hadoop, is cutting into Oracle's revenue. > > So, RH needs to concentrate on promoting JBOSS and a version of HADOOP. > Don't worry about Oracle. > > Fedora 20 allows for i

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Stephen Harris
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 03:18:10PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Tell them you can try it out, and if they like the results, they can pay > for a license and support for RHEL, the "real" thing, and that's a *lot* > easier sell. Especially if there's a migration script to convert existing CentOS

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread m . roth
David Miller wrote: > On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:55 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: >> On 01/09/2014 08:34 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: > >> Look at it another way - we are not working with the RHEL teams, we are >> working with the RH open source and standards team ( that has no real >> input into RHEL ) - to expan

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/9/2014 11:53 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > It is same with SuSE and OpenSuSE, right? opensuse is more like fedora -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing lis

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 01/09/2014 08:26 PM, David Miller wrote: > > On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:55 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > >> On 01/09/2014 08:34 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: >>> Is this for real? Oracle are apparently a thorn in the side to RH and >>> thus all the changes to C6 that caused lots of delays .. if this >>> ch

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 1/9/2014 11:26 AM, David Miller wrote: >> At this point I really don't see why RedHat doesn't just offer RHEL + >> updates + extra channels for free and then only charge for support. This >> would put them on a real equal ground with Cano

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/9/2014 11:26 AM, David Miller wrote: > At this point I really don't see why RedHat doesn't just offer RHEL + updates > + extra channels for free and then only charge for support. This would put > them on a real equal ground with Canonical. I suspect doing so would cut heavily into their rev

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread David Miller
On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:55 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 01/09/2014 08:34 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: >> Is this for real? Oracle are apparently a thorn in the side to RH and >> thus all the changes to C6 that caused lots of delays .. if this >> changes as indicated, doesn't that negate all those ch

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Leslie S Satenstein
Satenstein > > From: Karanbir Singh >To: centos@centos.org >Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 7:55 AM >Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat > > >On 01/09/2014 08:34 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: >> Is this for real? Oracle are apparently a tho

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/09/2014 08:34 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: > Is this for real? Oracle are apparently a thorn in the side to RH and > thus all the changes to C6 that caused lots of delays .. if this > changes as indicated, doesn't that negate all those changes and give > Oracle a leg up to getting their clone to

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/09/2014 12:09 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > I'd throw SMEserver, ClearOS, and the old (up to CentOS5) version of > K12LTSP in that bucket too. Maybe someone will roll a new K12LTSP > that comes up working as installed again now. The focus from the project side is going to be creating the infra

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Rob Kampen
On 01/09/2014 12:38 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: hi, On 01/08/2014 02:47 PM, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: One thing that struck me in Karanbir's message was the marketing mumbo-jumbo such as "the next generation of emerging technologies" and "a platform that is easily consumed". Karanbir usually writ

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: >> > the voip setup for home/small users is the best example. if > asterisk@home were done as a part of the centos community, how cool > would that have been? I'd throw SMEserver, ClearOS, and the old (up to CentOS5) version of K12LTSP in that

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi, On 01/08/2014 02:47 PM, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > One thing that struck me in Karanbir's message was the marketing > mumbo-jumbo such as "the next generation of emerging technologies" and > "a platform that is easily consumed". > > Karanbir usually writes better than that, so I suppose that

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-08 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
Sorin Srbu wrote: > My first thought as well. Redhat already has Fedora as a testing > ground. So for Redhat acquiring another free distribution makes me wary, > unnecessarily so maybe... One thing that struck me in Karanbir's message was the marketing mumbo-jumbo such as "the next generation of