Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/9/11 5:13 AM, Markus Falb wrote: > >> I think I could have done it with http, >> at least it linked to my web-server. >> But I agree with you that NFS is much the easier way. > > NFS method requires you to run a nfs server. This is not easy if you are > not running nfs service at your site. Yo

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:04 PM, William Hooper wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> In my case, at least, I would always run a Live CD before installing an OS, >> just to make sure it runs OK. >> So a person might well have a Live USB stick anyway. > > This is a vali

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 9.4.2011 01:42, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I think I could have done it with http, > at least it linked to my web-server. > But I agree with you that NFS is much the easier way. NFS method requires you to run a nfs server. This is not easy if you are not running nfs service at your site. You have

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

William Hooper wrote: >>> Still works - can just copy vmlinuz and initrd.img from the >>> images/pxeboot/ or isolinux/ directories and add a GRUB (or whatever >>> bootloader) stanza to boot them. >> >> So you believe this newbie who is confused by NFS >> is going to follow that advice? > > I didn

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Phil Schaffner wrote: > >>> Forgive me if I've missed it mentioned, but it looks like the option >>> is only being removed from the LiveCD.  Using the netinstall.iso is >>> still available and would be a more efficient way of doing network >>

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Timothy Murphy wrote: > Thanks, it did work this time when I got the file from the above site > (given that it is diskboot.img not bootdisk.img). > The only difference I can see is that previously I took the file > from the CentOS 64-bit DVD ISO (loop-mounted). > > ---

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/8/11 7:12 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > >>> I did try the dd method again, but it didn't work for me. >> >> I still don't understand what is going wrong for you. I just went >> through these motions: >>download the bootdisk.img file from: >> http://mirror.highspeedweb.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Phil Schaffner wrote: >> Forgive me if I've missed it mentioned, but it looks like the option >> is only being removed from the LiveCD. Using the netinstall.iso is >> still available and would be a more efficient way of doing network >> installs anyway (9.5M vs 685M). > > Precisely. In my case,

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Phil Schaffner wrote: > You are welcome to debate that with the LiveCD maintainer, or to roll > your own version including the option, but as a guy who has spent a lot > of time answering the newbies on the forum who got tripped up by it, I > fully support the decision. If you feel that, why not

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Les Mikesell wrote: >> I did try the dd method again, but it didn't work for me. > > I still don't understand what is going wrong for you. I just went > through these motions: > download the bootdisk.img file from: > http://mirror.highspeedweb.net/CentOS/5.5/os/i386/images/ > then > dd if=bo

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Les Mikesell wrote: That makes the assumption that there is an nfs server available. We certainly don't do nfs here. >>> >>> If this isn't your first install, you are a couple of commands away from >>> having one. Faster/easier than burning yet another iso or 7. >> >> That makes the as

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Lamar Owen wrote: >> > USB disks _can_ have partitions (obviously, since you can stick about >> > any drive into a usb adapter), > >> The instructions in > US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Installation_Guide/ >> certainly advise making a partition /dev/sdb1 >>

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/8/2011 4:48 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > >>> That makes the assumption that there is an nfs server available. We >>> certainly don't do nfs here. >> >> If this isn't your first install, you are a couple of commands away from >> having one. Faster/easier than burning yet another iso or 7. > > Tha

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On Friday, April 08, 2011 05:43:03 PM Les Mikesell wrote: > On 4/8/2011 4:26 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > That makes the assumption that there is an nfs server available. We > > certainly don't do nfs here. > > If this isn't your first install, you are a couple of commands away from > having one.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/8/2011 4:26 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Friday, April 08, 2011 04:42:59 PM Les Mikesell wrote: >> Did anyone tell them how easy an nfs install is? > > That makes the assumption that there is an nfs server available. We > certainly don't do nfs here. If this isn't your first install, you are

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On Friday, April 08, 2011 04:42:59 PM Les Mikesell wrote: > Did anyone tell them how easy an nfs install is? That makes the assumption that there is an nfs server available. We certainly don't do nfs here. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on 04/08/2011 04:56 PM: > In a standard install? I'll look, but don't remember that option. It is present, but easy to overlook. Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Phil Schaffner wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on 04/08/2011 04:10 PM: > .. >> What you have to do is tell it no bootloader, then before you reboot at >> the end of the install, use or whatever to get to another screen, >> then... lessee, I forget if it's mounted the install as /mnt/sysimage or >>

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/8/2011 3:35 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote on 04/08/2011 04:29 PM: >> Why force people to burn two disks when they >> would only need one? > > You are welcome to debate that with the LiveCD maintainer, or to roll > your own version including the option, but as a guy who has spe

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on 04/08/2011 04:10 PM: .. > What you have to do is tell it no bootloader, then before you reboot at > the end of the install, use or whatever to get to another screen, > then... lessee, I forget if it's mounted the install as /mnt/sysimage or > not, but mount your /boot on

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Les Mikesell wrote on 04/08/2011 04:29 PM: > Why force people to burn two disks when they > would only need one? You are welcome to debate that with the LiveCD maintainer, or to roll your own version including the option, but as a guy who has spent a lot of time answering the newbies on the foru

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

William Hooper wrote on 04/08/2011 03:50 PM: > Forgive me if I've missed it mentioned, but it looks like the option > is only being removed from the LiveCD. Using the netinstall.iso is > still available and would be a more efficient way of doing network > installs anyway (9.5M vs 685M). Precisely

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/8/2011 3:19 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote: > >> None of that applies to NFS installs against locally downloaded isos - >> which is the fastest/easiest approach to a full set of install choices >> unless it is your first machine and you don't have anything to act as >> the server. > > Agreed. In my

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Les Mikesell wrote on 04/08/2011 02:27 PM: > None of that applies to NFS installs against locally downloaded isos - > which is the fastest/easiest approach to a full set of install choices > unless it is your first machine and you don't have anything to act as > the server. Agreed. In my mind tha

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

William Hooper wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Phil Schaffner wrote: > The issues you saw with grub being installed on the USB stick instead of the HDD are a bigger concern in my book. I wonder if you you have better luck installing GRUB on the HDD MBR, booting

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On Friday, April 08, 2011 02:22:47 PM Timothy Murphy wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > > USB disks _can_ have partitions (obviously, since you can stick about > > any drive into a usb adapter), > The instructions in US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Installation_G

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Phil Schaffner wrote: > >> Because network installs tend to be problematic for all but those with >> local repositories or flawless broadband network connections.  Having it >> present was raising unrealistic expectations of netinstall as a v

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/8/2011 1:22 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> USB disks _can_ have partitions (obviously, since you can stick about >> any drive into a usb adapter), but small ones typically don't and you >> don't need them to boot. The bootdisk.img layout appears to be a vfat >> on the raw disk (no partitionin

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Markus Falb wrote: >>> Maybe you have more luck with that. >>> dd method is not mentioned anymore. >> >> Thanks for that. >> This method did work, although there is an error in the description, >> which slightly confused me. > > You could file a bug in Upstream Vendors bugzilla ;-) I'll try th

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Phil Schaffner wrote: > Because network installs tend to be problematic for all but those with > local repositories or flawless broadband network connections. Having it > present was raising unrealistic expectations of netinstall as a viable > option, and resulting in bad first experiences with C

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/8/2011 7:55 AM, Phil Schaffner wrote: > Timothy Murphy wrote on 04/07/2011 08:47 AM: >> Network Installation from CentOS Live CD will no longer be available. >> (Why not, as a matter of interest?) > > Because network installs tend to be problematic for all but those with > local repositories o

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Les Mikesell wrote: > USB disks _can_ have partitions (obviously, since you can stick about > any drive into a usb adapter), but small ones typically don't and you > don't need them to boot. The bootdisk.img layout appears to be a vfat > on the raw disk (no partitioning) with syslinux configure t

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/8/2011 7:58 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >>> Yes, my memory isn't that great, but it is in the install guide: >>> http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Installation_Guide-en- > US/ch02s04.html#id3098219 > > I did try the dd method again, but it didn't work for me. I still don't understand what is

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/8/2011 8:15 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >> On 4/8/11 5:28 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> It should go to the raw disk device, not a partition and you shouldn't need to format first. >>> >>> The reason I re-formatted it was that fdisk said >>> there was no valid p

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 8.4.2011 14:58, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Markus Falb wrote: >> A more manual way to make usb stick bootable is described instead. >> Maybe you have more luck with that. >> dd method is not mentioned anymore. > > Thanks for that. > This method did work, although there is an error in the descript

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Les Mikesell wrote: > On 4/8/11 5:28 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> >>> It should go to the raw disk device, not a partition and you shouldn't >>> need to format first. >> >> The reason I re-formatted it was that fdisk said >> there was no valid partition table after dd-ing bootdisk.img onto >> /dev/

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Markus Falb wrote: >> Yes, my memory isn't that great, but it is in the install guide: >> http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Installation_Guide-en- US/ch02s04.html#id3098219 I did try the dd method again, but it didn't work for me. > My memory isnt great neither. There is a boot.iso mentioned inc

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Timothy Murphy wrote on 04/07/2011 08:47 AM: > Network Installation from CentOS Live CD will no longer be available. > (Why not, as a matter of interest?) Because network installs tend to be problematic for all but those with local repositories or flawless broadband network connections. Having i

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/8/11 5:28 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> It should go to the raw disk device, not a partition and you shouldn't >> need to >> format first. > > The reason I re-formatted it was that fdisk said > there was no valid partition table after dd-ing bootdisk.img onto /dev/sdb . I thought small usb d

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Tom Grace wrote: > You might also have some luck with "unetbootin" > (http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/), might also be in the CentOS repos. Yes, thanks, that was suggested before, and I have noted it as a possibility. But I'd like to get a more CentOS-centred method working, if I can. -- Tim

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 08/04/11 11:28, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >>> I re-formatted the USB stick under Windows, >>> and tried dd-ing diskboot.img to /dev/sdb1 >>> but the outcome was the same. > > I'll try again, now that I'm sure what you mean. > You might also have some luck with "unetbootin" (ht

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Les Mikesell wrote: >> I tried dd-ing this to /dev/sdb (the USB stick). >> >> [tim@helen dvd]$ sudo cp images/diskboot.img /tmp >> [tim@helen dvd]$ cd /tmp >> [tim@helen tmp]$ sudo dd if=diskboot.img of=/dev/sdb >> 24576+0 records in >> 24576+0 records out >> 12582912 bytes (13 MB) copied, 0.7663

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 7 Apr 2011, at 00:18, Timothy Murphy wrote: > If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS > on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear. I keep a USB CD drive to hand for servers without optical drives. Slightly defeatist but much easier; just used for install

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 8.4.2011 02:54, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 4/7/11 7:28 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Les Mikesell wrote: >> > I assume that the lack of a CD drive on the HP micro-server > is a sign of things to come, > so I would hope there would be an official method of installing CentOS > on such

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/7/11 7:28 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > I assume that the lack of a CD drive on the HP micro-server is a sign of things to come, so I would hope there would be an official method of installing CentOS on such a machine. >>> >>> I think what Les sugge

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Les Mikesell wrote: >>> I assume that the lack of a CD drive on the HP micro-server >>> is a sign of things to come, >>> so I would hope there would be an official method of installing CentOS >>> on such a machine. >>> >> >> I think what Les suggested is one official supported method as outlined >

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Markus Falb wrote: >> I assume that the lack of a CD drive on the HP micro-server >> is a sign of things to come, >> so I would hope there would be an official method of installing CentOS >> on such a machine. >> > > I think what Les suggested is one official supported method as outlined > in th

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/7/2011 10:08 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to > confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install > grub. The thing to watch for with this is "Disk ordering" in the grub setup (only in the

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Les Mikesell wrote: > On 4/7/2011 9:52 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Tom Grace wrote: >>> On 07/04/11 15:40, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install grub. >>> The t

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/7/2011 9:52 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Tom Grace wrote: >> On 07/04/11 15:40, Les Mikesell wrote: >> >>> There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to >>> confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install grub. >> The thing to watch for with this is "D

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Tom Grace wrote: > On 07/04/11 15:40, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to >> confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install grub. > The thing to watch for with this is "Disk ordering" in the grub setup > (only in the graph

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 07/04/11 15:40, Les Mikesell wrote: > There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to > confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install grub. The thing to watch for with this is "Disk ordering" in the grub setup (only in the graphical installer). Generall

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/7/2011 8:14 AM, Markus Falb wrote: >>> I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is >>> in the /images on the CD or DVD isos on a USB drive (you can use a >>> loopback mount to get it if you can't find a place to download it >>> separately), boot from it, pick nfs

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Timothy Murphy wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > >>> If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS >>> on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear. I know if you search this mailinglist's archives, you'll find my post from last year; a quick google found it this way

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 7.4.2011 14:47, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > >>> If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS >>> on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear. >>> >> >> I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is >> in the /images o

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/7/11 7:47 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > >>> If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS >>> on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear. >>> >> >> I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is >> in the /images on

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Les Mikesell wrote: >> If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS >> on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear. >> > > I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is > in the /images on the CD or DVD isos on a USB drive (you can use a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On 4/6/11 6:17 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS > on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear. > I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is in the /images on the CD or DVD isos on a USB drive

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> I've looked quite carefully at my CentOS-5.5 Live CD (on a USB stick), >>> and I don't see a Network Install option anywhere. > >> Try hitting the space bar during the Automatic boot countdown screen. >> That should give you the boot menu with the option to do the networ

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

William Hooper wrote: >> I've looked quite carefully at my CentOS-5.5 Live CD (on a USB stick), >> and I don't see a Network Install option anywhere. > Try hitting the space bar during the Automatic boot countdown screen. > That should give you the boot menu with the option to do the network > ins

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > According to > "There is a "Network Install" option on the Live CD > that is the same as our CentOS-5.5-i386-netinstall ISO". > > I've looked quite carefully at my CentOS-5.5 Live

[CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD & netinstall

According to "There is a "Network Install" option on the Live CD that is the same as our CentOS-5.5-i386-netinstall ISO". I've looked quite carefully at my CentOS-5.5 Live CD (on a USB stick), and I don't see a Network Install option a