Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-17 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: > Greetings, > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Always Learning wrote: >> On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:13 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> yum install gstreamer* >> > > Is yum install vlc* better that gstreamer? > > Ignorant queation: > And whch repos should be in

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-17 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:13 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> > yum install gstreamer* > Is yum install vlc* better that gstreamer? Ignorant queation: And whch repos should be included 1. for gstreamer and 2. for VLC? --

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-11 Thread Christopher Chan
On Monday, July 11, 2011 11:09 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >> On Monday, July 11, 2011 10:03 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >>> Ljubomir The Wise wrote: Short version (I am hungry): Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux >

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-11 Thread m . roth
Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >> On Monday, July 11, 2011 10:03 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >>> Ljubomir The Wise wrote: Short version (I am hungry): Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux administration and usage as a d

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-11 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Monday, July 11, 2011 10:03 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> Ljubomir The Wise wrote: >>> Short version (I am hungry): >>> >>> Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux >>> administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows >>>

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-11 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > Ljubomir The Wise wrote: >> Short version (I am hungry): >> >> Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux >> administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows >> users) says that in order to convert (reluctant) Windows user you have > to

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-11 Thread Christopher Chan
On Monday, July 11, 2011 10:03 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > Ljubomir The Wise wrote: >> Short version (I am hungry): >> >> Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux >> administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows >> users) says that in order to convert (rel

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-11 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
Ljubomir The Wise wrote: > Short version (I am hungry): > > Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux > administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows > users) says that in order to convert (reluctant) Windows user you have to fully > replicate Windows environ

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 05:12 AM, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 02:05:26PM -0700, Craig White wrote: >> >> The reality is that applications are becoming more and more web based >> SAAS and as the costs of specific applications needed on specific >> platforms (ie, Quickbooks) ri

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Christopher Chan wrote: > But seriously, one thing you have to understand is that threads always > drift. People have different takes on what it is that is in the way of > the mass adoption of the Linux desktop. Everybody has their pet app that > would singlehandedly put Linux on the desktop. Li

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 05:50 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > I must be the only one keeping entire/beggining of the conversation in > mind why replying. Either that or I am nutz. > Which one would you have us believe? :p But seriously, one thing you have to understand is that threads always

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 09:52 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Christopher Chan wrote: >> On Sunday, July 10, 2011 03:46 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >>> Also worth mentioning is that there is Kaspersky for Linux Workstations >>> and Servers, and even for the Mac: >>> http://www.kaspersky.com/ap

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Christopher Chan wrote: > On Sunday, July 10, 2011 03:46 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Also worth mentioning is that there is Kaspersky for Linux Workstations >> and Servers, and even for the Mac: >> http://www.kaspersky.com/applications_list >> > > Aw, nobody put in a word for NOD32 from Eset

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 03:46 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Also worth mentioning is that there is Kaspersky for Linux Workstations > and Servers, and even for the Mac: > http://www.kaspersky.com/applications_list > Aw, nobody put in a word for NOD32 from Eset?

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Giles Coochey
On 10/07/2011 11:40, Ron Blizzard wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: The reference to 'porn' was meant to be a light hearted reference to 'your personal stuff', as opposed to 'your work stuff'. Okay, you've made good points. Sorry about over-reacting. I'll eventually

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: > The reference to 'porn' was meant to be a light hearted reference to 'your > personal stuff', as opposed to 'your work stuff'. Okay, you've made good points. Sorry about over-reacting. I'll eventually learn that a CentOS desktop is the exce

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Giles Coochey
On 10/07/2011 11:22, Ron Blizzard wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: Well, do both then, but at double the cost!! The whole point to CEOs and CFOs about going with the Cloud is that they will save money on IT infrastructure and possibly get rid of 'that scruffy guy i

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: > On 10/07/2011 10:40, Ron Blizzard wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Giles Coochey  wrote: >> >> Can your company afford to be without your apps and data for a couple of >> weeks, while some hacker organisation has it? >> >> I thin

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > Hoi Rudi, > > > > CentOS is great as a server OS, but it won't replace our accountant's > > Windows 7 desktop - the amount of technical compatibilies issues we're > > going to sit with is just not worth it. > > > > Don't use a jack hamme

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Giles Coochey
On 10/07/2011 10:40, Ron Blizzard wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: Can your company afford to be without your apps and data for a couple of weeks, while some hacker organisation has it? I think not. But it's not like you can't do both. The Cloud has the benefits of

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: > Actually, I think first major Cloud player to be majorly hacked will be a > double whammy to kill off the 'cloud' mentality: > > At least the following two will occur: > > * Everyone will question the security and privacy of their data in th

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > That is exactly why I intend to create "Desktop" version, regular CentOS > with additional repositories and virtual package(s) pulling necessary > real packages. If launched from main menu it could be done as an add-on > package enhanc

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
John R. Dennison wrote: > Symantec is garbage and has been for many years. Don't care for > Kaspersky from past use, but that was indeed KAV as I've not used > anything else from them. Perhaps I should evaluate their KIS offering. > > I've had absolutely no trouble whatsoever with Avast other th

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Giles Coochey
On 09/07/2011 23:20, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Craig White wrote: The reality is that applications are becoming more and more web based SAAS and as the costs of specific applications needed on specific platforms (ie, Quickbooks) rise, web based SAAS will replace them. The point is that for end

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Ron Blizzard wrote: > On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Always Learning wrote: > >> The truth is my mp3 playing ability was installed about a year ago when >> I was first introduced to Centos and I experienced a very rapid and >> steep learning curve (which I successfully overcame as usual). I do n

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Always Learning wrote: > I used Ami Pro 3 (from 1993) until I totally switched to Centos last > year. I liked Word Pro (never went as far back as Ami Pro) because it was "cleaner" than Office or WordPerfect. At first I tried WordStar for Windows, but it really w

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 16:45 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: > >> Glad to see you've got your tin hat on.  Any more conspiracy theories >> you'd like to share? > > Those with functioning brains should be able to realise the consequences > of

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 4:45 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 10:36:02PM +0100, Always Learning wrote: >> >> You will probably find that all USA anti-virus products have included a >> backdoor for at least the last ~15 years or longer.  Uncle Sam wants to >> see inside your com

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 21:43 -0500, Ron Blizzard wrote: > For me, personally, I went completely to Linux about three years ago. > I never was a big game player and *never* liked M$ Office. I used > WordStar for DOS for years, then went to Lotus SmartSuite before > moving to Linux. I used Ami Pro

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Well, larger and lager fear of malware, trojans and regular viruses is > excellent motivator. Especially when you add need to pay for good AV/IS > solution. My country men are poor and paying even 20 EUR per year for > good AV/IS softwa

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 4:21 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: > While that might be true, the reality of the situation is different. > Until you can provide a seamless drop-in replacement for Windows that > does not require a change in work-flow habits learned over the course > of, for some, many years

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Always Learning wrote: > The truth is my mp3 playing ability was installed about a year ago when > I was first introduced to Centos and I experienced a very rapid and > steep learning curve (which I successfully overcame as usual). I do not > know where the mp3 pla

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Always Learning wrote: > Experience 44 years - it makes me seem old :-( as computer programmer > and the usual collection of other computer posts/tasks/assignments I > truly believe with Centos and Gnome 90% of "ordinary" M$ Windoze users > have what they need.  If

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:00:03AM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > Neah. I am talking on how those free AV's are not worth the time spent > in installing them. Only heavy-hitters like KIS (KAV not so much) > Symantec NIS and one or two others are capable to stop really nasty bug > taking

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
John R. Dennison wrote: > On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:27:52PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Well, larger and lager fear of malware, trojans and regular viruses is >> excellent motivator. Especially when you add need to pay for good AV/IS >> solution. My country men are poor and paying even

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 16:45 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: > Glad to see you've got your tin hat on. Any more conspiracy theories > you'd like to share? Those with functioning brains should be able to realise the consequences of over-surveillance of civilian communities especially in times of p

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 23:43 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > That is why I only install Kaspersky Internet Security on any Windows > PC requesting security software. > > You must remember the wave of German Country and City computer > networks converting to Linux. It was because they have see

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Keith Roberts wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> To: CentOS mailing list >> From: Ljubomir Ljubojevic >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide >> >> Keith Roberts wrote: >>> On Sat, 9 Jul 201

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 10:36:02PM +0100, Always Learning wrote: > > You will probably find that all USA anti-virus products have included a > backdoor for at least the last ~15 years or longer. Uncle Sam wants to > see inside your computer. Google tracks your browsing especially via > Firefox. W

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote: > You will probably find that all USA anti-virus products have included a > backdoor for at least the last ~15 years or longer. Uncle Sam wants to > see inside your computer. Google tracks your browsing especially via > Firefox. Why else would Google give Mozilla USD 50 mill

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:27:52PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > Well, larger and lager fear of malware, trojans and regular viruses is > excellent motivator. Especially when you add need to pay for good AV/IS > solution. My country men are poor and paying even 20 EUR per year for > goo

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Ljubomir Ljubojevic > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide > > Keith Roberts wrote: >> On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> >> ***snip***

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 23:27 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:# > Well, larger and lager fear of malware, trojans and regular viruses is > excellent motivator. Especially when you add need to pay for good > AV/IS solution. My country men are poor and paying even 20 EUR per > year for good AV/IS so

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Keith Roberts wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > ***snip*** > >> Short version (I am hungry): >> >> Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux >> administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows users) says >> that in order to convert (r

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Always Learning wrote: ***snip*** > Dosbox is excellent running pure M$ DOS programmes. > Virtualbox and Wine can also help. A few years ago my neighbour knocked on my door with a DVD or CD in his hand. He said it was a freebie and was supposed to run on his M$ Xbox, but i

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
John R. Dennison wrote: > On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 10:14:28PM +0100, Always Learning wrote: >> Its time for the world to drift away from the M$ Windoze expensive >> nightmare. Centos is a very good alternative. > > While that might be true, the reality of the situation is different. > Until you can

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: ***snip*** > Short version (I am hungry): > > Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux > administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows users) says > that in order to convert (reluctant) Windows user you have to

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 10:14:28PM +0100, Always Learning wrote: > > Its time for the world to drift away from the M$ Windoze expensive > nightmare. Centos is a very good alternative. While that might be true, the reality of the situation is different. Until you can provide a seamless drop-in rep

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Craig White wrote: > The reality is that applications are becoming more and more web based > SAAS and as the costs of specific applications needed on specific > platforms (ie, Quickbooks) rise, web based SAAS will replace them. The > point is that for end users, the OS is eventually going to become

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 22:58 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > But MP3 support in your case came from RPMForge package > (gstreamer-plugins-ugly). I have seen later that you were not aware of > that, but that statement on clean CentOS with only official repos would > be a false one. The tru

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
Hi Ljubomir, > > RPMForge is Dag and friends (uit Belgie). Many including me regard Dag > > enz. as a wonderful and very useful part of the wider Centos project. > Short version (I am hungry): > > Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux > administration and usage as

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 02:05:26PM -0700, Craig White wrote: > > The reality is that applications are becoming more and more web based > SAAS and as the costs of specific applications needed on specific > platforms (ie, Quickbooks) rise, web based SAAS will replace them. The > point is that for en

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 22:22 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Always Learning > wrote: > > May I suggest that all us very grateful users of Centos make 6 > copies of > Centos 6.0 (either i386 or/and X64) and hand then out to >

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
Hoi Rudi, > CentOS is great as a server OS, but it won't replace our accountant's > Windows 7 desktop - the amount of technical compatibilies issues we're > going to sit with is just not worth it. > > Don't use a jack hammer to drive in a nail :) Centos 5.5 works well for my non-computer li

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 22:00 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> This whole thong started from third party repos and @Always Learning >> insisting MP3 is supported from official RHEL/CentOS repos: > > I do not believe I suggested mp3 is supported by ANY repo. > > I di

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 21:09 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> RPMForge is not "the base/official repo", and you are using -ugly- >> package for MP3 >> >> Quote: >> "GStreamer Ugly Plug-ins is a set of plug-ins that have good quality and >> correct functionalit

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 22:00 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > This whole thong started from third party repos and @Always Learning > insisting MP3 is supported from official RHEL/CentOS repos: I do not believe I suggested mp3 is supported by ANY repo. I did mention ... > > One of the most

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote: > Hi Ljubomir, > >>> If MP3 music 'works' (meaning it successfully plays on Centos/Gnome) why >>> would additional codecs be required ? > >> Does it? It was not my experience on either CentOS or Fedora. MP3 codecs >> are proprietary, and are not distributed by Red Hat dist

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 21:09 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > RPMForge is not "the base/official repo", and you are using -ugly- > package for MP3 > > Quote: > "GStreamer Ugly Plug-ins is a set of plug-ins that have good quality and > correct functionality, but distributing them might

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
Hi Ljubomir, > > If MP3 music 'works' (meaning it successfully plays on Centos/Gnome) why > > would additional codecs be required ? > Does it? It was not my experience on either CentOS or Fedora. MP3 codecs > are proprietary, and are not distributed by Red Hat distro's (RHEL and > Fedora) I ha

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Keith Roberts wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> There is "Autopatcher" software, free. It downloads all updates from M$ >> site you might need and then you start the process of silent >> installation of patches. It can take 3-4 hours to update everithing (IE, >> Adobe, .Net

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > May I suggest that all us very grateful users of Centos make 6 copies of > Centos 6.0 (either i386 or/and X64) and hand then out to friends, > colleagues or strangers (unknown members of the public) who might be > interested in trying Ce

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, July 09, 2011 03:55:43 PM Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Lamar Owen wrote: > > It's not free, but Fluendo has a zero-cost MP3 decoder for the gstreamer > > framework. www.fluendo.com > > But I assume it is still not part of the official repository since it is > not open source which m

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Ljubomir Ljubojevic > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide > > Keith Roberts wrote: >> I'm *very* tempted to start again with a fresh install, and >> forget

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Joseph L. Casale wrote: >> I plan on creating CentOS 6.0 Desktop off-spin, changing only release >> package to add priorities and enable Plus and Extras repositories > > Let me know how that Extra repo addition goes:) Ups. I am getting tired of replying tonight so... well I had in my mind that

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
b.j. mcclure wrote: >> RPMForge is not "the base/official repo", and you are using -ugly- >> package for MP3 > Gee, I think I mentioned that in the first line of my post. > >> Quote: >> "GStreamer Ugly Plug-ins is a set of plug-ins that have good quality and >> correct functionality, but dist

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Lamar Owen wrote: > On Saturday, July 09, 2011 02:25:12 PM Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Most but not all. Windows users have only mp3 music, especially if they >> have illegal copies like >90% of people in South East Europe. For those >> you need non-free codecs. > > It's not free, but Fluendo

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/09/2011 08:31 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > I plan on creating CentOS 6.0 Desktop off-spin, changing only release > package to add priorities and enable Plus and Extras repositories, and > then add few selected third party repositories and/or hosting some extra > packages not available via

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread b.j. mcclure
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 21:09 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > B.J. McClure wrote: > > Here is my setup which includes a few packages from rpmforge. Same > > setup on a dozen desktops with various hardware. All play mp3. > > > > ~]$ rpm -qa | grep gstreamer > > gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.11-1.el6.r

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>I plan on creating CentOS 6.0 Desktop off-spin, changing only release >package to add priorities and enable Plus and Extras repositories Let me know how that Extra repo addition goes:) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/m

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:18 +0200, Giles Coochey wrote: > >> I do like Linux over other operating systems, but I wouldn't wish it >> on any of my non-techie friends... >> >> CentOS is what I primarily work on for Server Labs, not usually >> desktop environments anyway. >

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Keith Roberts wrote: > I get all my extra codes from here: > > rpm -ivh > http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/mplayer-codecs-20061022-1.i386.rpm > > rpm -ivh > http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/mplayer-codecs-extra-20061022-1.i386.rpm > > I can play most audio and v

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, July 09, 2011 02:25:12 PM Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Most but not all. Windows users have only mp3 music, especially if they > have illegal copies like >90% of people in South East Europe. For those > you need non-free codecs. It's not free, but Fluendo has a zero-cost MP3 decoder

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
B.J. McClure wrote: > Here is my setup which includes a few packages from rpmforge. Same > setup on a dozen desktops with various hardware. All play mp3. > > ~]$ rpm -qa | grep gstreamer > gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.11-1.el6.rf.x86_64 > phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.6.2-17.el6.x86_64 > gstreamer-plugins

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread B.J. McClure
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:42 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Always Learning wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> Most but not all. Windows users have only mp3 music, especially if they > >> have illegal copies like >90% of people in South East Europe. F

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Keith Roberts wrote: > I'm *very* tempted to start again with a fresh install, and > forget the updates - they don't do much anyway! There is "Autopatcher" software, free. It downloads all updates from M$ site you might need and then you start the process of silent installation of patches. It c

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Most but not all. Windows users have only mp3 music, especially if they >> have illegal copies like >90% of people in South East Europe. For those >> you need non-free codecs. > > If MP3 music 'works' (mean

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Always Learning wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Always Learning > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide > > > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Always Learning wrote: >>>

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Giles Coochey wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Giles Coochey > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide > > On 09/07/2011 20:13, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> I already have several friends lined up for installation. But y

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Always Learning wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:13 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> But you should also be prepared to help them with install and primary > >> setup, like adding third party repositories for audio/video code

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Giles Coochey wrote: > On 09/07/2011 20:13, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> I already have several friends lined up for installation. But you >> should also be prepared to help them with install and primary setup, >> like adding third party repositories for audio/video codecs and >> similar. Ljubo

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:13 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> But you should also be prepared to help them with install and primary >> setup, like adding third party repositories for audio/video codecs >> and similar. > > One of the most useful things I discovered was:

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:18 +0200, Giles Coochey wrote: > I do like Linux over other operating systems, but I wouldn't wish it > on any of my non-techie friends... > > CentOS is what I primarily work on for Server Labs, not usually > desktop environments anyway. One of my friends, a lady, not t

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Giles Coochey
On 09/07/2011 20:13, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: I already have several friends lined up for installation. But you should also be prepared to help them with install and primary setup, like adding third party repositories for audio/video codecs and similar. Ljubomir And the next ten years or f

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:13 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > But you should also be prepared to help them with install and primary > setup, like adding third party repositories for audio/video codecs > and similar. One of the most useful things I discovered was:- yum install gstreamer* w

Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote: > May I suggest that all us very grateful users of Centos make 6 copies of > Centos 6.0 (either i386 or/and X64) and hand then out to friends, > colleagues or strangers (unknown members of the public) who might be > interested in trying Centos ? I already have several frie

[CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-09 Thread Always Learning
Saturday, 9 July 2011 in England. This afternoon I was very enthusiastically telling staff in a large US owned stationary and computers chain store (with often too high prices), Staples, about the joys and benefits of using Linux, specifically Centos, over M$ Windoze. May I suggest that all us v