On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Joseph L. Casale
wrote:
>>Remember that windows integration website ( don't remember the name
>>but related to nLite and ryanvm) shutdown by Microsoft - it made a
>>great deal of news because they had scripts to take out annoyances
>>such as balloons popping up in
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Joseph L. Casale
wrote:
>>I called them and explained to them that I couldn't get it to boot --
>>they gave me instructions on reinstalling
>
> So Windows is garbage because one support tech is an idiot? There are
> no idiots in the Linux world?
Support techs usua
ken wrote:
> Okay, here's one. Maybe someone here can figure it out.
> Upgrading from 4.5 to 4.5. From a 4.6 ISO I copied all the RPMs into a
> directory... let's call it c:/install :). Now the oracle dba has
> strict parameters on what versions can be installed and which can't.
> The rpms in c:
>I wonder what those opinions are.
That would just start a useless flame..
>One of the main reasons *I* am no fan
>of MS is their clear subversion of standards for their own ends.
Well, they do some stupid things. No Linux vendor ever did?[1]
>Exchange, e.g., has a *horrible* IMAP implementatio
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 at 11:47am, Joseph L. Casale wrote
> This useless thread will never end, FOSS guys have their sh!t in a knot
> over MS for reason of which I have my own opinions.
I wonder what those opinions are. One of the main reasons *I* am no fan
of MS is their clear subversion of st
>I called them and explained to them that I couldn't get it to boot --
>they gave me instructions on reinstalling
So Windows is garbage because one support tech is an idiot? There are
no idiots in the Linux world?
>The KSOD "event" occurred after an automatic Windows update (which
>isn't all that
>Remember that windows integration website ( don't remember the name
>but related to nLite and ryanvm) shutdown by Microsoft - it made a
>great deal of news because they had scripts to take out annoyances
>such as balloons popping up in the taskbar. MS lawyers had them
>disbanded
For a good reaso
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Joseph L. Casale
wrote:
>>which is about as useful as Microsoft Windows support... is it broken?
>>"reinstall windows"
>
> FFS, this attitude amongst opensource guys that MS is the devil and are
> trying to murder your family or sabotage your life is such BS.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Joseph L. Casale
wrote:
>>which is about as useful as Microsoft Windows support... is it broken?
>>"reinstall windows"
>
> FFS, this attitude amongst opensource guys that MS is the devil and are
> trying to murder your family or sabotage your life is such BS.
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
>> Maybe today. How long has it been that you could start something on a
>> windows box and expect it to still be running a year later? People
>> runing unix/linux have expected and achieved that for decades.
>
> A long time:)
> Windows _is_ reliable, what isn't reliable
War is a failure of the imagination.
--William Blake
On 10/19/2009 06:29 PM Keith Keller wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 08:29:59AM +1030, Ian Blackwell wrote:
>> My experience has been good and I have no negative feelings about their
>> support offering. We had a critical issue once
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 08:29:59AM +1030, Ian Blackwell wrote:
> My experience has been good and I have no negative feelings about their
> support offering. We had a critical issue once on a production server
> with 250 users, and that they solved for us very quickly. Other lower
> priority issue
ken wrote:
> On 10/18/2009 08:17 AM Kwan Lowe wrote:
>
>>> I'm pretty sure most corporations will continue to pay to use Red Hat.
>>> It's pretty tough to go the head of IT and tell them you want to use
>>> an OS without a corporate support license. Support is a security
>>> blanket, if nothing
>Maybe today. How long has it been that you could start something on a
>windows box and expect it to still be running a year later? People
>runing unix/linux have expected and achieved that for decades.
A long time:)
Windows _is_ reliable, what isn't reliable is the myriad of cheap sh!t
hardware
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
>> which is about as useful as Microsoft Windows support... is it broken?
>> "reinstall windows"
>
> FFS, this attitude amongst opensource guys that MS is the devil and are
> trying to murder your family or sabotage your life is such BS.
The people with the the attitu
>which is about as useful as Microsoft Windows support... is it broken?
>"reinstall windows"
FFS, this attitude amongst opensource guys that MS is the devil and are
trying to murder your family or sabotage your life is such BS.
Take the Tin Foil Hat off and settle down, MS support is easily
Clint Dilks wrote:
> My Experience has been that its the difference between installing system
> and setting up systems for production use. In New Zealand at least it
> seems that if you can have a system where everything is installed in the
> standard way with a default configuration then you c
Niki Kovacs wrote:
> Clint Dilks a écrit :
>
>
>> My Experience has been that its the difference between installing system
>> and setting up systems for production use. In New Zealand at least it
>> seems that if you can have a system where everything is installed in the
>> standard way with
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:50 AM, ken wrote:
> In the couple of months I've had the need to contact Redhat support on
> just one issue and their "support" has been terrible, so far completely
> useless and a waste of time.
>..
I've opened the lowest-severity cases and generally can express th
Clint Dilks a écrit :
> My Experience has been that its the difference between installing system
> and setting up systems for production use. In New Zealand at least it
> seems that if you can have a system where everything is installed in the
> standard way with a default configuration then y
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 09:12:01AM +1300, Clint Dilks wrote:
> Rainer Duffner wrote:
> > Amos Shapira schrieb:
> >
> >> 2009/10/19 ken :
> >>
> >>
> >>> In the couple of months I've had the need to contact Redhat support on
> >>> just one issue and their "support" has been terrible, so f
Rainer Duffner wrote:
> Amos Shapira schrieb:
>
>> 2009/10/19 ken :
>>
>>
>>> In the couple of months I've had the need to contact Redhat support on
>>> just one issue and their "support" has been terrible, so far completely
>>> useless and a waste of time. I don't know what Redhat char
Amos Shapira schrieb:
> 2009/10/19 ken :
>
>> In the couple of months I've had the need to contact Redhat support on
>> just one issue and their "support" has been terrible, so far completely
>> useless and a waste of time. I don't know what Redhat charges us for
>>
>
> The only guy I pers
2009/10/19 ken :
> In the couple of months I've had the need to contact Redhat support on
> just one issue and their "support" has been terrible, so far completely
> useless and a waste of time. I don't know what Redhat charges us for
The only guy I personally know who went with RedHat "because t
On 10/18/2009 08:17 AM Kwan Lowe wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure most corporations will continue to pay to use Red Hat.
>> It's pretty tough to go the head of IT and tell them you want to use
>> an OS without a corporate support license. Support is a security
>> blanket, if nothing else -- and it's a pla
> I'm pretty sure most corporations will continue to pay to use Red Hat.
> It's pretty tough to go the head of IT and tell them you want to use
> an OS without a corporate support license. Support is a security
> blanket, if nothing else -- and it's a place to lay blame if something
> goes wrong. (
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Ian Blackwell wrote:
>
> Ron Blizzard wrote:
>> I wonder if Red Hat has ever considered limited, paid support options
>> for CentOS?
>>
> I think that would be brand cannibalisation and self-defeating. To
> charge a lower support fee for the same product with a di
Ron Blizzard wrote:
> I wonder if Red Hat has ever considered limited, paid support options
> for CentOS?
>
I think that would be brand cannibalisation and self-defeating. To
charge a lower support fee for the same product with a different name
would surely only devalue their prime product and
Interesting column at CNET...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10376762-16.html
~~
"Novell has been positioning itself as the Avis of Linux, a distant
but gaining Red Hat competitor that "tries harder." Like Oracle,
Novell argues that it can give customers Red Hat value at a lower
price.
"There
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