Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-06 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > If the laptop uses the (old!) APM interface, xapm will work.  If the > laptop uses the (newer, current) ACPI interface, I have written a little > utility that displays the battery state.  Visit > http://www.deepsoft.com/OddsAndEnds and scrol

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-06 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Kwan Lowe wrote: > Hello all: >   Does anyone know of a tool/project that will allow me to read the > battery condition (not the charge status) on a Dell laptop battery? > Under XP there is a utility that warns that the battery is still > holding a charge but that th

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-06 Thread Jake Shipton
On 06/08/09 16:21, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Johnny Hughes wrote: > >> Anne Wilson wrote: >> >> >>> My laptop is four years old, and yes the battery is aging. When I bought >>> the >>> laptop there were instructions that if a laptop is used mainly on mains, you >>> should run it on batt

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Johnny Hughes wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > >> My laptop is four years old, and yes the battery is aging. When I bought >> the >> laptop there were instructions that if a laptop is used mainly on mains, you >> should run it on battery, say once a month or so, until you are down to 10%. >>

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Robert Heller wrote: > At Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:43:36 -0400 CentOS mailing list > wrote: > > >> Hello all: >>Does anyone know of a tool/project that will allow me to read the >> battery condition (not the charge status) on a Dell laptop battery? >> Under XP there is a utility that warns that

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Kwan Lowe wrote: > Hello all: >   Does anyone know of a tool/project that will allow me to read the > battery condition (not the charge status) on a Dell laptop battery? > Under XP there is a utility that warns that the battery is still > holding a charge but that th

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread Johnny Hughes
Anne Wilson wrote: >> > My laptop is four years old, and yes the battery is aging. When I bought the > laptop there were instructions that if a laptop is used mainly on mains, you > should run it on battery, say once a month or so, until you are down to 10%. > It was claimed that the periodic

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 05 August 2009 18:38:12 Kwan Lowe wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Blake Hudson wrote: > > How old is your laptop? This may be a case of expectations not meeting > > reality. As the Wiki article linked previously mentions, LiION batteries > > deteriorate over time and with us

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread John R Pierce
RedShift wrote: > That's usually a symptom of an individual cell that has failed. You could > open up the batterypack and start replacing the individual cells, but I'd > recommend just getting a new battery or even a new laptop... > *EXTREMELY* dangerous to do that with Lithium-ion packs. _

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread RedShift
Kwan Lowe wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Blake Hudson wrote: > >> How old is your laptop? This may be a case of expectations not meeting >> reality. As the Wiki article linked previously mentions, LiION batteries >> deteriorate over time and with use (as do all batteries). In my >> exp

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread John R Pierce
cornel panceac wrote: > > The laptop is about 18 months old, so the battery was nearing its end > but I'd hoped for at least another 6 months of useful time (more than > 10 minutes). The battery is in worse condition than three identical > batteries in the other 3 laptops purchased

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread cornel panceac
2009/8/5 Kwan Lowe > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Blake Hudson wrote: > > > > > How old is your laptop? This may be a case of expectations not meeting > > reality. As the Wiki article linked previously mentions, LiION batteries > > deteriorate over time and with use (as do all batteries). In

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Blake Hudson wrote: > > How old is your laptop?  This may be a case of expectations not meeting > reality. As the Wiki article linked previously mentions, LiION batteries > deteriorate over time and with use (as do all batteries). In my > experience, a typical lapt

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread John R Pierce
Kwan Lowe wrote: > Also, not sure if this is possible, but I would like to control how > the laptop charges the battery. I tend to have the laptop plugged in > most of the time and this constant charging state is apparently very > bad for battery lifetime. So a charge/drain cycle is supposedly > b

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:43:36 -0400 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > Hello all: >Does anyone know of a tool/project that will allow me to read the > battery condition (not the charge status) on a Dell laptop battery? > Under XP there is a utility that warns that the battery is still > holding a

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread Blake Hudson
Original Message Subject: Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell From: Kwan Lowe To: CentOS mailing list Date: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:14:46 AM > The times I have removed it from the mains the battery held out > for only about 10 minutes before dying. &

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Blake Hudson wrote: > Actually, it's the 100% charge state that is bad for LiIon. But a > charge/drain cycle will likely wear the battery out even faster - LiIon > batteries wear model is based on usage time. A 90% charge is ideal for > long term storage - or for som

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread RedShift
Kwan Lowe wrote: > Hello all: >Does anyone know of a tool/project that will allow me to read the > battery condition (not the charge status) on a Dell laptop battery? > Under XP there is a utility that warns that the battery is still > holding a charge but that the battery is degraded and shoul

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 09:43 -0400, Kwan Lowe wrote: > Hello all: >Does anyone know of a tool/project that will allow me to read the > battery condition (not the charge status) on a Dell laptop battery? > Under XP there is a utility that warns that the battery is still > holding a charge but tha

Re: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread Blake Hudson
most of the time. As far as software controls, I'm not familiar - but one thing that works in any OS is to simply remove the battery when on AC power. -Blake Original Message Subject: [CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell From: Kwan Lowe To: centos@centos.org Date:

[CentOS] Battery condition tools CentOS/Dell

2009-08-05 Thread Kwan Lowe
Hello all: Does anyone know of a tool/project that will allow me to read the battery condition (not the charge status) on a Dell laptop battery? Under XP there is a utility that warns that the battery is still holding a charge but that the battery is degraded and should be replaced. Also, not s