Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread John R Pierce
Les Mikesell wrote: > On 4/13/2010 2:29 PM, Seth Bardash wrote: > >> Just finished building a new server for inhouse use. 12.8TB >> >> Needed a nfs and samba server which could store 10TB and be reliable. >> Also wanted to replace out DHCP server and our internal DNS server. >> So needed to ru

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread m . roth
> They weren't supposed to be consumer drives. The box was provided by the > vendor of a disk-disk-tape backup system. > > They are Western Digital Enterprise RE2-GP drives. > > I wouldn't purchase them again, thanks for asking... Dunno 'bout them, but I *really* don't like Seagate Barracudas. Thr

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread nate
Eero Volotinen wrote: > err. you can get hitachi sms 100 with sata drives for about 9000e > including 3 year maintenance. Yes, and you get what you pay for with that.. As I mentioned earlier myself I won't go back to crap storage after seeing the light.. Even Hitachi AMS 2k series doesn't compa

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/4/13 nate : > Joseph L. Casale wrote: >>>Unless you have a good storage system.. >>> >>>a blog entry I wrote last year: >>>http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/11/24/81000-raid-arrays/ >>> >>>Another one where I ripped into Equallogic's claims: >>>http://www.techopsguys.com/2010/03/26/enterprise-eq

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread nate
Joseph L. Casale wrote: >>Unless you have a good storage system.. >> >>a blog entry I wrote last year: >>http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/11/24/81000-raid-arrays/ >> >>Another one where I ripped into Equallogic's claims: >>http://www.techopsguys.com/2010/03/26/enterprise-equallogic/ > > Lol, Nate...

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Seth Bardash
On 4/13/2010 1:38 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 4/13/2010 2:29 PM, Seth Bardash wrote: >> Just finished building a new server for inhouse use. 12.8TB >> >> Needed a nfs and samba server which could store 10TB and be reliable. >> Also wanted to replace out DHCP server and our internal DNS server. >

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>Unless you have a good storage system.. > >a blog entry I wrote last year: >http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/11/24/81000-raid-arrays/ > >Another one where I ripped into Equallogic's claims: >http://www.techopsguys.com/2010/03/26/enterprise-equallogic/ Lol, Nate... The op was looking at spending a

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Alan Hodgson
On Tuesday 13 April 2010, Drew Weaver wrote: > Those drives are likely fading out of the array because they aren't meant > to be in arrays in the first place, Adaptec has told us that if you use > consumer drives with their cards you are operating at your own risk. > Every hard drive dies. It's j

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/13/2010 2:29 PM, Seth Bardash wrote: > Just finished building a new server for inhouse use. 12.8TB > > Needed a nfs and samba server which could store 10TB and be reliable. > Also wanted to replace out DHCP server and our internal DNS server. > So needed to run dnsmasq plus ntp for time serv

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Don Krause
re operating at your own risk. > > -Drew > > > -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf > Of Don Krause > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:20 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] 12-15 T

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Seth Bardash
Just finished building a new server for inhouse use. 12.8TB Needed a nfs and samba server which could store 10TB and be reliable. Also wanted to replace out DHCP server and our internal DNS server. So needed to run dnsmasq plus ntp for time serving. This machine replace 3 older units. We used

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread James A. Peltier
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Boris Epstein wrote: > Hello listmates, > > I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under > ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc? > > Thanks. > > Boris. Smaller volumes is best, but really it depends on your I/O type as well.

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Drew Weaver
s.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Don Krause Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:20 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:57 AM, nate wrote: > John R Pierce wrote: > >> well, IF your controller totally scream

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Don Krause
On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:57 AM, nate wrote: > John R Pierce wrote: > >> well, IF your controller totally screams and can rebuild the drives at >> wire speeds with full overlap, you'll be reading 7 * 2TB of data at >> around 100MB/sec average and writing the XOR of that to the 8th drive in >> a 8 s

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread nate
John R Pierce wrote: > well, IF your controller totally screams and can rebuild the drives at > wire speeds with full overlap, you'll be reading 7 * 2TB of data at > around 100MB/sec average and writing the XOR of that to the 8th drive in > a 8 spindle raid5 (14tb total). just reading one drive

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread John R Pierce
Boris Epstein wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Joseph L. Casale > wrote: > >>> I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under >>> ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc? >>> >> This comes up often:) >> Things to keep in mind when usi

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/4/13 Boris Epstein : > Hello listmates, > > I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under > ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc? how about hitachi SMS 100 ? it is about that size and cost effective iscsi solution? -- Eero

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread nate
Joseph L. Casale wrote: > Rebuild times especially on busy arrays with large discs take lots of > time... Unless you have a good storage system.. a blog entry I wrote last year: http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/11/24/81000-raid-arrays/ Another one where I ripped into Equallogic's claims: http://

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Boris Epstein
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote: >>I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under >>ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc? > > This comes up often:) > Things to keep in mind when using large discs if you suffer a failure, > whi

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under >ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc? This comes up often:) Things to keep in mind when using large discs if you suffer a failure, while rebuilding in a degraded state it's not impossible or unlikely t

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Ryan Manikowski
On 4/13/2010 1:19 PM, David Miller wrote: > > Ryan's hardware recommendations are good. But I wouldn't run a RAID5 > volume that large, software or hardware. It's just too risky as > rebuilds will take days and the chances of hitting a non recoverable > read error would be near 100% on a volume

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread David Miller
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Ryan Manikowski wrote: > On 4/13/2010 1:05 PM, Boris Epstein wrote: > > Hello listmates, > > I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under > ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc? > > Thanks. > > Boris. > __

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Boris Epstein
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Ryan Manikowski wrote: > On 4/13/2010 1:05 PM, Boris Epstein wrote: > > Hello listmates, > > I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under > ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc? > > Thanks. > > Boris. >

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Ryan Manikowski
On 4/13/2010 1:05 PM, Boris Epstein wrote: > Hello listmates, > > I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under > ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc? > > Thanks. > > Boris. > ___ > CentOS mailing list > C

[CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Boris Epstein
Hello listmates, I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc? Thanks. Boris. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/cent