Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Keith Keller
On 2018-10-16, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 05:54:29AM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming w= > rote: > > Troll bait removed. > > Congrats, folks. You fell for it. > > This was also troll-posted to fedora-users within seconds of this post. It was also troll-posted to ubun

Re: [CentOS] C 7 installation annoyances

2018-10-16 Thread Ian Mortimer
On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 11:05 +0100, Nux! wrote: > The EL7 partitioner is a complete disaster and I regularly bitch > about it on twitter and irc. > You could try to convince it with kickstart and bypass the GUI > altogether. I agree and also use kickstart but sometimes, for a one-off install, I fi

Re: [CentOS] C 7 installation annoyances

2018-10-16 Thread David C. Miller
- Original Message - > From: "mark" > To: "CentOS mailing list" > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:36:38 PM > Subject: Re: [CentOS] C 7 installation annoyances > Gordon Messmer wrote: >> On 10/16/18 1:24 PM, mark wrote: >> >>> Gordon Messmer wrote: >>> As best I recall, there's no

Re: [CentOS] C 7 installation annoyances

2018-10-16 Thread mark
Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 10/16/18 1:24 PM, mark wrote: > >> Gordon Messmer wrote: >> >>> As best I recall, there's no support in the UI for LVM volumes with >>> RAID level. (And I don't see any such option in the kickstart >>> documentation, which also suggests that it won't be present in the >>

Re: [CentOS] C 7 installation annoyances

2018-10-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/16/18 1:24 PM, mark wrote: Gordon Messmer wrote: As best I recall, there's no support in the UI for LVM volumes with RAID level. (And I don't see any such option in the kickstart documentation, which also suggests that it won't be present in the UI.) The supported configuration is to crea

Re: [CentOS] C 7 installation annoyances

2018-10-16 Thread mark
Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 10/15/18, mark wrote: > >> In the disk partitioner, I can't >> 1) choose to make the LVM with root and swap be on a RAID 1. Is there >> some way to do that, rather than two separate partitions RAIDed? > > As best I recall, there's no support in the UI for LVM volumes wit

Re: [CentOS] C 7 installation annoyances

2018-10-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/16/18 5:54 AM, Young, Gregory wrote: As for the use of software RAID. Don't. They are useless, particularly with Linux. The trend seems to be moving away from supporting software RAID in Linux in general, and in particular, RHEL/CentOS 7.5 had to hard drop support for HBE (Hybrid) RAID c

Re: [CentOS] C 7 installation annoyances

2018-10-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/15/18, mark wrote: > In the disk partitioner, I can't > 1) choose to make the LVM with root and swap be on a RAID 1. Is there > some way to do that, rather than two separate partitions RAIDed? As best I recall, there's no support in the UI for LVM volumes with RAID level. (And I

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Japheth Cleaver
On 10/16/2018 10:27 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 09:25:15AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: Also, it is likely that at some point systemd-free Linux distribution(s) may fade away. There was already a move away from SysV init before systemd was introduced, heck RHEL6/CentOS

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 09:25:15AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Hoping to not offend proponents of systemd/firewalld... Perhaps if you weren't spreading misinformation, we wouldn't be offended? > Linux kernel is already containing chunks of code related to > systemd/firewalld and friends. One

Re: [CentOS] C 7 installation annoyances

2018-10-16 Thread Mark Milhollan
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018, Nux! wrote: >The EL7 partitioner is a complete disaster and I regularly bitch about >it on twitter and irc. Aye. It's annoying that the text mode installer can't manipulate partitioning at all -- they lost that when they made the installer "better". If it weren't for tha

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread John R. Dennison
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 05:54:29AM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Troll bait removed. Congrats, folks. You fell for it. This was also troll-posted to fedora-users within seconds of this post. John -- A man who

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 10/16/18 7:51 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote: Systemd is implemented in all the major distros, if you want to find ones that don't search for non-systemd. Hoping to not offend proponents of systemd/firewalld... Linux kernel is already containing chunks of code related to systemd/firewalld a

Re: [CentOS] C 7 installation annoyances

2018-10-16 Thread Young, Gregory
*** This response is my personal opinion and may not reflect that of my employer. *** It seems recent updates to Anaconda and in particular Blivet in the CentOS 7 .iso are restricting things rather than expanding the options. We have a scenario where we are doing a CentOS 6 to CentOS 7 upgrade

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Leroy Tennison
Systemd is implemented in all the major distros, if you want to find ones that don't search for non-systemd. Leroy Tennison Network Information/Cyber Security Specialist E: le...@datavoiceint.com 2220 Bush Dr McKinney, Texas 75070 www.datavoiceint.com TThis message has been sent on behalf of a c

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Re: [CentOS] Frefox update from firefox-60.2.0-1.el7.centos.x86_64 to 60.2.1-1.el7.centos.x86_64 lost master password

2018-10-16 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 10/15/2018 11:40 PM, Simon Matter wrote: >> On 10/12/2018 08:24 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote: >>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 5:34 AM Rob Kampen >>> wrote: >>> Hi list, Did an update to firefox last night and rebooted over night. Today I find firefox started without asking for

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 10/16/18 1:54 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Good afternoon from Singapore, What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros? Is systemd implemented in all the latest Linux distros? Please advise. Thank you. My advice is to go and read up on the ori

Re: [CentOS] C 7 installation annoyances

2018-10-16 Thread Nux!
The EL7 partitioner is a complete disaster and I regularly bitch about it on twitter and irc. You could try to convince it with kickstart and bypass the GUI altogether. Another option is to boot in a Live CD and do you partitioning from there either manually or via Gparted and hope these changes

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-16 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 05:54 +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Good afternoon from Singapore, > > What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros? > > Is systemd implemented in all the latest Linux distros? > > Please advise. Thank you. > I really thin