>
> http://php.net/eol.php says that PHP 5.5 and 5.4 are EOL, but a freshly
> installed Centos 7 box, then fully upgraded, gives me PHP 5.4.16-42.el7.
> What do people do about maintaining current versions of software on a
> variety of machines?
If you need more up to date versions of PHP then th
On 2017-11-02, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> On Thu, November 2, 2017 4:43 pm, Keith Keller wrote:
>>
>> There are Nagios plugins that can check the status of LSI controllers,
>> arrays, and drives. The plugin is nice even if you don't use Nagios;
>> it'd be pretty easy to write a short shell wrapper
On 2/11/17 4:50 pm, Pete Biggs wrote:
Yes, those versions are EOL, but RedHat spends vast amounts of money
back porting security (and bug) fixes from later versions into the EOL
versions so that they remain a viable option for the life of that
particular version of the distro - that's what the '-
On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 06:34:06PM -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:
> On 11/02/2017 10:41 AM, Fred Smith wrote:
> >I'm looking to replace my (old, creaky) netbook (Acer Aspire One D255e,
> >a screaming dual core 1.6 GHz Atom, and a whole 2 gigs of RAM) with
> >something faster but not too large. Sometime
On 11/02/2017 10:41 AM, Fred Smith wrote:
I'm looking to replace my (old, creaky) netbook (Acer Aspire One D255e,
a screaming dual core 1.6 GHz Atom, and a whole 2 gigs of RAM) with
something faster but not too large. Sometimes (usually) the netbook is
painfully slow.
Something like a hi-res 14
On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 09:16:48PM -0400, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
> On Thursday 02 November 2017, Fred Smith
> wrote:
>
> > mostly portable email and browsing.
>
> For that, almost anything will do, of course.
only if it actually works for Linux/C7.
My netbook used to be good for that too, b
On Thursday 02 November 2017, Fred Smith
wrote:
> mostly portable email and browsing.
For that, almost anything will do, of course.
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On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 02:09:04PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
> > Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >
> >> Not intending to contradict (if that ends up as pain, it will be
> >> your pain anyway ;-) but I would go higher with specs if you intend
> >> to use Linux on it. Linux t
On Thu, November 2, 2017 4:43 pm, Keith Keller wrote:
> On 2017-11-02, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> If you have not Dell server hardware my choice of [hardware] RAID cards
>> would be:
>>
>> Areca
>> LSI (or whoever owns that line these days - Intel was the last one, I
>> recollect)
>>
>> With LSI
On 11/2/2017 2:35 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
John R Pierce wrote:
On 11/2/2017 2:18 PM,m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
We have a fair number of SAS 3.5" drives, and yes, 10k or 15k speeds.
those are internally 2.5" disks in a 3.5" frame. you can't spin a 3.5"
disk much faster than 7200 rpm without
On 11/2/2017 7:20 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote:
it's just a pity they're not compatible with Linux so I can't monitor or
manage them while the servers are running. The only way I know I have
problems is by watching the LEDS
I have a couple python scripts I've used for monitoring LSI/Avago
"Megarai
On 2017-11-02, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> If you have not Dell server hardware my choice of [hardware] RAID cards
> would be:
>
> Areca
> LSI (or whoever owns that line these days - Intel was the last one, I
> recollect)
>
> With LSI beware that they have really nasty command line client, and do
>
John R Pierce wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 2:18 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> We have a fair number of SAS 3.5" drives, and yes, 10k or 15k speeds.
>
> those are internally 2.5" disks in a 3.5" frame. you can't spin a 3.5"
> disk much faster than 7200 rpm without it coming apart.
>
Sorry, that's incorr
On 11/2/2017 2:18 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
We have a fair number of SAS 3.5" drives, and yes, 10k or 15k speeds.
those are internally 2.5" disks in a 3.5" frame. you can't spin a 3.5"
disk much faster than 7200 rpm without it coming apart.
--
john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cru
John R Pierce wrote:
> On 11/2/2017 9:21 AM, hw wrote:
>> Richard Zimmerman wrote:
>>> hw wrote:
Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4
or 8 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're
*much* more expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >sma
Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> On Thu, November 2, 2017 2:41 pm, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
>> Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>>> And you are talking about 8 years old system on what would be called
>>> decent hardware about the same 8 years back, right?
>>
>> The hardware is 6 years old and, at the time, Te
On 11/2/2017 9:21 AM, hw wrote:
Richard Zimmerman wrote:
hw wrote:
Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4
or 8 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're
*much* more expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >smaller disk space.
For the price of a 1TB
On 11/2/2017 8:35 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote:
I'm very happy with my Dell Precision 5520 "developer edition". It
shipped with Ubuntu and runs Fedora pretty much flawlessly. I haven't
tried CentOS, but Dell claims that RHEL support on their spec sheet, so
I would expect it to work well.
Dell also ha
On Thu, November 2, 2017 2:41 pm, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
> Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>> And you are talking about 8 years old system on what would be called
>> decent hardware about the same 8 years back, right?
>
> The hardware is 6 years old and, at the time, Tech Report called it
> "the best
And I agree too, running Kubuntu 14.04 LTS on an HP Pavilion dv7 is acceptable,
running Windows 7 was dog slow - hard drive crashed and we lost the Windoze
license, sad story, all I could do was install Linux and go on instead of
dual-booting when I needed Windoze - such a shame :-) :-) :-)
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Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> And you are talking about 8 years old system on what would be called
> decent hardware about the same 8 years back, right?
The hardware is 6 years old and, at the time, Tech Report called it
"the best netbook we've ever tested". So it was quite good (for a
netbook) at t
On Thu, November 2, 2017 1:03 pm, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
> Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>> Not intending to contradict (if that ends up as pain, it will be
>> your pain anyway ;-) but I would go higher with specs if you intend
>> to use Linux on it. Linux tends to grow its demands for resources
>> p
Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
> Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>> Not intending to contradict (if that ends up as pain, it will be
>> your pain anyway ;-) but I would go higher with specs if you intend
>> to use Linux on it. Linux tends to grow its demands for resources
>> pretty much exponentially (same as W
On 11/01/2017 03:06 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 11/01/2017 07:55 AM, Scott Gennari wrote:
/etc/xen/scripts/network-bridge-pcl
#/bin/sh
dir=$(dirname "$0")
"$dir/network-bridge" "$@" vifnum=1 netdev=eth2 bridge=xen-dmz2
"$dir/network-bridge" "$@" vifnum=3 netdev=eth0 bridge=xen-dmz1
Do you
Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> Not intending to contradict (if that ends up as pain, it will be
> your pain anyway ;-) but I would go higher with specs if you intend
> to use Linux on it. Linux tends to grow its demands for resources
> pretty much exponentially (same as Windows does, only from lower
> s
Richard Zimmerman wrote:
>>Most servers can fit only 2.5" disks these days. I keep wondering what
>> everyone is doing about storage.
>
> The DL20 gen9 I bought was setup LFF (3.5")
>
> The DL380 gen9 could be either SFF (2.5) or LFF. I had to buy SFF for our
> new server due I was told to spec /
On 11/02/2017 01:42 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
I'm looking to replace my (old, creaky) netbook (Acer Aspire One D255e,
a screaming dual core 1.6 GHz Atom, and a whole 2 gigs of RAM) with
something faster but not too large. Sometimes (usually) the netbook is
painfully slow.
Something like a hi-res 14
On Thu, November 2, 2017 12:41 pm, Fred Smith wrote:
> I'm looking to replace my (old, creaky) netbook (Acer Aspire One D255e,
> a screaming dual core 1.6 GHz Atom, and a whole 2 gigs of RAM) with
> something faster but not too large. Sometimes (usually) the netbook is
> painfully slow.
>
> Someth
Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> On Thu, November 2, 2017 11:21 am, hw wrote:
>> Richard Zimmerman wrote:
>>> hw wrote:
Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or
8
3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much*
more expensive than the
hw wrote:
> Richard Zimmerman wrote:
>> hw wrote:
>>> Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8
>>> 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much*
>>> more expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >smaller disk space. For the
>>> price of a 1TB 2.5",
hw wrote:
> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> hw wrote:
>>> Richard Zimmerman wrote:
DO NOT buy the newer HPE DL20 gen9 or ML10 gen9 servers then
(especially
if using CentOS 6.x)
>>>
>> And I do *not* want to buy from HP, because their
>> support is nothing like good.
>
> Indeed, I wouldn´
I'm looking to replace my (old, creaky) netbook (Acer Aspire One D255e,
a screaming dual core 1.6 GHz Atom, and a whole 2 gigs of RAM) with
something faster but not too large. Sometimes (usually) the netbook is
painfully slow.
Something like a hi-res 14 (or 15) inch screen (full HD), minimum of 4
>Most servers can fit only 2.5" disks these days. I keep wondering what
>everyone is doing about storage.
The DL20 gen9 I bought was setup LFF (3.5")
The DL380 gen9 could be either SFF (2.5) or LFF. I had to buy SFF for our new
server due I was told to spec / build it exact to vendor recommend
On Thu, November 2, 2017 11:18 am, hw wrote:
> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> hw wrote:
>>> Richard Zimmerman wrote:
DO NOT buy the newer HPE DL20 gen9 or ML10 gen9 servers then
(especially
if using CentOS 6.x)
>>>
>>> What would you suggest as alternative, something from Dell?
>>
>> Ye
On Thu, November 2, 2017 11:21 am, hw wrote:
> Richard Zimmerman wrote:
>> hw wrote:
>>> Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8
>>> 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much*
>>> more expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >smaller disk spac
On 2 November 2017 at 12:21, hw wrote:
> Richard Zimmerman wrote:
>>
>> hw wrote:
>>>
>>> Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8
>>> 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much* more
>>> expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >smaller disk spa
Richard Zimmerman wrote:
hw wrote:
Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8 3.5" drives be enough (DO
NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much* more expensive than the 3.5" drives, and
>smaller disk space. For the price of a 1TB 2.5", I can get at least a 4TB W
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
hw wrote:
Richard Zimmerman wrote:
DO NOT buy the newer HPE DL20 gen9 or ML10 gen9 servers then (especially
if using CentOS 6.x)
What would you suggest as alternative, something from Dell?
Yep, Dell's are good.
That´s good to hear.
And I do *not* want to buy from
Anybody care to chime in with a comment or hint on the laptop situation
and-or their experiences?
I'm very happy with my Dell Precision 5520 "developer edition". It
shipped with Ubuntu and runs Fedora pretty much flawlessly. I haven't
tried CentOS, but Dell claims that RHEL support on their sp
Richard Zimmerman wrote:
> hw wrote:
>>Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8
>> 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much*
>> more expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >smaller disk space. For the
>> price of a 1TB 2.5", I can get at least
I can help a little here... Yes, dropping NPAPI is a huge problem. FireFox ESR
is available for Linux x32 and x64.
Solved my problems using Lantronix Spider IP/KVM device until Java updates,
then refuses to run it yet again :(
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/
Hopes this
Good to know about the HPE and Dell "gotchas", thanks to those who posted.
I can speak to SuperMicro (11 systems, mostly X9 and X10). Hardware seems to
be fine, management utilities (IPMI - like iLO) are more basic. The real
heartburn right now is that the browsers for Linux have pretty much d
hw wrote:
>Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8 3.5"
>drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much* more
>expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >smaller disk space. For the price of a
>1TB 2.5", I can get at least a 4TB WD Red.
I will second M
Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> On Thu, November 2, 2017 8:29 am, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm looking into getting HP laptops for our department running CentOS 7.
> To be fair I must mention here that I love HP printers, and the whole
> attitude of HP towards printers they make. Decent HP
Gary Stainburn wrote:
> On Thursday 02 November 2017 14:10:25 Bowie Bailey wrote:
> By using H/W RAID, it's literally just a case of removing the dead drive
> and inserting the replacement. I've got a number of IBM and DELL boxes
> like this.
> it's just a pity they're not compatible with Linux so
Richard Zimmerman wrote:
> Honestly, I'm leaning against Dell because their stuff just doesn't seem
> to be built to last. We have 1 T620, 2 R620 servers. So far just past the
> 5 year mark, 3 dead hard drives, 2 power supplies. That is with the
> machines mostly TURNED OFF. (Failed IT project aft
Once upon a time, Gary Stainburn said:
> I've used MDADM before on previous servers, but have found that this setup
> isn't hot swap. Ultimately if I had to replace a drive it involved a lot of
> effort, especially the first drive.
I use mdadm RAID in a bunch of places; it isn't automated, but
Sorin Srbu wrote:
>
> I'm looking into getting HP laptops for our department running CentOS 7.
>
> Last time I checked this was some five or so years ago, and when I look at
> https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops, nothing much seems to have
> happened since.
>
> At that time, I had to give up Cen
hw wrote:
> Richard Zimmerman wrote:
>> DO NOT buy the newer HPE DL20 gen9 or ML10 gen9 servers then (especially
>> if using CentOS 6.x)
>
> What would you suggest as alternative, something from Dell?
Yep, Dell's are good. And I do *not* want to buy from HP, because their
support is nothing like g
On Thu, November 2, 2017 8:29 am, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm looking into getting HP laptops for our department running CentOS 7.
I usually recommend against HP laptops. I had Compaq quite some time ago
(the last was bought out by HP shortly after I got my laptop), and I have
seen a b
On Thursday 02 November 2017 14:10:25 Bowie Bailey wrote:
> If you want raid 5 or 6, then you should get a hardware controller. For
> raid 1, mdadm should work just fine. I would suggest trying it before
> buying a raid controller. If it works for you, you save a few hundred
> dollars and you hav
On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 01:29:53PM +, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm looking into getting HP laptops for our department running CentOS 7.
At daily work, we have elitebook 840g2 and 840g3, works out of the box with C7.
(on the g3, the FN/light shortcuts are not working). ymmv.
Cheers
On 11/2/2017 8:04 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote:
I'm just about to build a new server and I'm looking for recommendations on
what hardware to use.
I'm happy with either a brand name, or building my own, but would like a
hardware RAID controller to run a pair of disks as RAID1 that is actually
compati
On Thursday 02 November 2017 14:04:11 Gary Stainburn wrote:
> On Thursday 02 November 2017 13:54:41 Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > Thanks.
> > Would you know what chipset that particular wifi-dongle is running?
> >
> > A wifi-dongle may work, but I'm thinking it's not really desirable to go
> > that way.
>
On Thursday 02 November 2017 13:54:41 Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Thanks.
> Would you know what chipset that particular wifi-dongle is running?
>
> A wifi-dongle may work, but I'm thinking it's not really desirable to go
> that way.
> I'm figuring the users will loose that dongle sooner than later! :-)
Th
> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gary
> Stainburn
> Sent: den 2 november 2017 14:48
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?
>
> I've got a HP Envy laptop and I'm fairly happy with it. The internal WiFi
> d
I've got a HP Envy laptop and I'm fairly happy with it. The internal WiFi
doesn't work with Centos but a £5 WiFi dongle sorted that. Oddly, it still
stops working once the battery drops below 50% ish.
Mine is dual boot with Win8 which is pants. The biggest problem is that
whenever I do much wit
I just put a call into AT&T Office 365 asking them to explain the spoof warning
thing...
To answer your question
At the moment, no I can't. I like HPE stuff, we bought a DL380 gen9 say five
months ago and totally happy with it. In fairness, its running Server 2012 r2
too but I didn't run i
Hello all,
I'm looking into getting HP laptops for our department running CentOS 7.
Last time I checked this was some five or so years ago, and when I look at
https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops, nothing much seems to have happened
since.
At that time, I had to give up CentOS on laptops, as b
Richard Zimmerman wrote:
DO NOT buy the newer HPE DL20 gen9 or ML10 gen9 servers then (especially if
using CentOS 6.x)
What would you suggest as alternative, something from Dell?
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DO NOT buy the newer HPE DL20 gen9 or ML10 gen9 servers then (especially if
using CentOS 6.x)
I don't use hardware raid (mdadm for the win!) so cannot speak to that.
DL20, bought it on a stock 'B' sale. Great price. Works well on Windows. HPE
doesn't sell hard drive trays, etc. You pretty much
On Wed, November 1, 2017 10:51, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
> I'm running NoScript because otherwise Firefox freezes up a lot.
> Recently I've had difficulty accessing a site.
> I suspect the reason is that it uses redirection in a way that
> frustrates my efforts to give it permission.
> To test th
Gary Stainburn wrote:
I'm just about to build a new server and I'm looking for recommendations on
what hardware to use.
I'm happy with either a brand name, or building my own, but would like a
hardware RAID controller to run a pair of disks as RAID1 that is actually
compatible with and manageabl
Hello, what is the purpose of this server?
On Thursday, November 2, 2017, Gary Stainburn wrote:
> I'm just about to build a new server and I'm looking for recommendations
on
> what hardware to use.
>
> I'm happy with either a brand name, or building my own, but would like a
> hardware RAID contro
I'm just about to build a new server and I'm looking for recommendations on
what hardware to use.
I'm happy with either a brand name, or building my own, but would like a
hardware RAID controller to run a pair of disks as RAID1 that is actually
compatible with and manageable through Linux.
A
>
> http://php.net/eol.php says that PHP 5.5 and 5.4 are EOL, but a
> freshly installed Centos 7 box, then fully upgraded, gives me PHP
> 5.4.16-42.el7. What do people do about maintaining current versions
> of software on a variety of machines? We have some users who manage
> their own machines,
Hi everyone,
http://php.net/eol.php says that PHP 5.5 and 5.4 are EOL, but a freshly
installed Centos 7 box, then fully upgraded, gives me PHP 5.4.16-42.el7. What
do people do about maintaining current versions of software on a variety of
machines? We have some users who manage their own machi
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