Re: [CentOS] UC /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Cliff Pratt
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 09.12.2011 00:53, schrieb Cliff Pratt: >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 08.12.2011 22:04, schrieb Les Mikesell: On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am

Re: [CentOS] ZFS magic (was: Backup Redux)

2011-12-08 Thread Mikael Fridh
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Vreme: 12/08/2011 08:31 PM, Alan McKay piše: [...] >> wondering if anyone has some recommended reading that is concise and to the >> point, and will give me a good intro. > > I read this when got interested: > http://www.funtoo.org/wiki

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Mikael Fridh
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:38 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 12/08/11 11:26 AM, Mikael Fridh wrote: >> For more redundancy and performance, add more ZFS boxes, do >> replication between them. > > what zfs replication is that?  last I heard, the only supported > replication was physical block replicat

Re: [CentOS] UC /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.12.2011 00:53, schrieb Cliff Pratt: > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 08.12.2011 22:04, schrieb Les Mikesell: >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Reindl Harald >>> wrote: Am 08.12.2011 21:08, schrieb Cliff Pratt: > It's a good idea NOT to p

Re: [CentOS] UC /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Cliff Pratt
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 08.12.2011 21:08, schrieb Cliff Pratt: >> It's a good idea NOT to put stuff in /etc/crontab and NOT to change >> the existing members of /etc/cron.d. It is a good idea NOT to change >> root's crontab. Any of these may get overwritten by

Re: [CentOS] UC /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Cliff Pratt
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 08.12.2011 22:04, schrieb Les Mikesell: >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> Am 08.12.2011 21:08, schrieb Cliff Pratt: It's a good idea NOT to put stuff in /etc/crontab and NOT to change the existi

Re: [CentOS] UC /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >>> fedora did not overwrite any crontab from FC5 to F15 now because >>> rpm-packages mark such configurations so the new versions get installed >>> as .rpmnew >> >> Which means the changes those versions would like to have made won't >> take

Re: [CentOS] UC /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.12.2011 22:04, schrieb Les Mikesell: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 08.12.2011 21:08, schrieb Cliff Pratt: >>> It's a good idea NOT to put stuff in /etc/crontab and NOT to change >>> the existing members of /etc/cron.d. It is a good idea NOT to change >>> r

Re: [CentOS] UC /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 08.12.2011 21:08, schrieb Cliff Pratt: >> It's a good idea NOT to put stuff in /etc/crontab and NOT to change >> the existing members of /etc/cron.d. It is a good idea NOT to change >> root's crontab. Any of these may get overwritten by m

Re: [CentOS] Help to install horde

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM, wrote: > > I've always been able to ssh -X to a server, and then run firefox -no-remote, so that it runs ON THAT SERVER, NOT on my workstation. All of a sudden, I can't. Is that clearer? AFAIK, my manager hasn't put any new security in place

Re: [CentOS] Help to install horde

2011-12-08 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:48 PM, wrote: >> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> I've always been able to ssh -X to a server, and then run firefox >>> -no-remote, so that it runs ON THAT SERVER, NOT on my workstation. All >>> of a sudden, I can't. Is that clearer? AFAIK, my manage

Re: [CentOS] UC /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.12.2011 21:08, schrieb Cliff Pratt: > It's a good idea NOT to put stuff in /etc/crontab and NOT to change > the existing members of /etc/cron.d. It is a good idea NOT to change > root's crontab. Any of these may get overwritten by maintenance. /etc/crontab will NEVER get overwritten to mak

Re: [CentOS] ZFS magic (was: Backup Redux)

2011-12-08 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 12/08/2011 08:31 PM, Alan McKay piše: >> My non-tape solution of choice is definitely rsync => box with ZFS, >> snapshot however often you'd like. => forever incrementals. >> >> For more redundancy and performance, add more ZFS boxes, do >> replication between them. >> >> > > Not sure whet

Re: [CentOS] UC /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Cliff Pratt
It's a good idea NOT to put stuff in /etc/crontab and NOT to change the existing members of /etc/cron.d. It is a good idea NOT to change root's crontab. Any of these may get overwritten by maintenance. We generally put cron stuff in a locally named and created member in /etc/cron.d. Cheers, Clif

Re: [CentOS] /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Cliff Pratt
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Cliff Pratt wrote: >> You can put a crontab file in there. Just don't alter any of the >> others. Crond automatically runs everything in /etc/cron.d, in >> /etc/crontab, and in user crontabs. >> > > That's wha

Re: [CentOS] Help to install horde

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:48 PM, wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> >> I've always been able to ssh -X to a server, and then run firefox >> -no-remote, so that it runs ON THAT SERVER, NOT on my workstation. All of >> a sudden, I can't. Is that clearer? AFAIK, my manager hasn't put any new >> sec

Re: [CentOS] Help to install horde

2011-12-08 Thread m . roth
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > James B. Byrne wrote: >> >> On Wed, December 7, 2011 17:06, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> firefox -no-remote & >>> >>> >>> Now, this is aggravating: I went to test it, and all our >>> servers just got the current update last Friday, to eith

Re: [CentOS] Help to install horde

2011-12-08 Thread m . roth
James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Wed, December 7, 2011 17:06, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> >>> firefox -no-remote & >> >> >> Now, this is aggravating: I went to test it, and all our >> servers just got the current update last Friday, to either 5.7 >> or 6.x, and on *both* 5.7

Re: [CentOS] ZFS magic (was: Backup Redux)

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Alan McKay wrote: >> My non-tape solution of choice is definitely rsync => box with ZFS, >> snapshot however often you'd like. => forever incrementals. >> >> For more redundancy and performance, add more ZFS boxes, do >> replication between them. >> >> > > Not sure

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/08/11 11:26 AM, Mikael Fridh wrote: > For more redundancy and performance, add more ZFS boxes, do > replication between them. what zfs replication is that? last I heard, the only supported replication was physical block replication of the underlying device(s) (avs in solaris cluster, drbd

Re: [CentOS] Help to install horde

2011-12-08 Thread James B. Byrne
O > > The web server is probably only bound to the localhost > interface as a security measure. > > You could launch a remote firefox as mroth suggested, but > I would use ssh port forwarding instead: > > ssh "your_server" -L8080:localhost:80 > > Then you can open a browser with the url: > http://

[CentOS] ZFS magic (was: Backup Redux)

2011-12-08 Thread Alan McKay
> My non-tape solution of choice is definitely rsync => box with ZFS, > snapshot however often you'd like. => forever incrementals. > > For more redundancy and performance, add more ZFS boxes, do > replication between them. > > Not sure whether ZFS now makes this OT - if so, sorry for not putting

Re: [CentOS] Help to install horde

2011-12-08 Thread James B. Byrne
On Wed, December 7, 2011 17:10, John R Pierce wrote: > On 12/07/11 1:58 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> ssh -X yourserver >> firefox -no-remote& >> *Then* http://127.0.0.1/horde, >> orhttp://localhost/horde, whatever. > > if that doesn't work, `yum install xauth`, then log out > and log in again >

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Mikael Fridh
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alan McKay wrote: > Hey folks, > > I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, > and here is what I found : > - amanda > - bacula > - BackupPC > - FreeNAS > > Here is my situation : we have pretty much all Sun hardware with a Sun > Sto

Re: [CentOS] Help to install horde

2011-12-08 Thread James B. Byrne
On Wed, December 7, 2011 17:06, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >> firefox -no-remote & > > > Now, this is aggravating: I went to test it, and all our > servers just got > the current update last Friday, to either 5.7 or 6.x, and > on *both* 5.7 > and 6, when I try to run fir

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Rob Kampen wrote: > > > I use backuppc, but find that in order to restore one has to be or know the > admin user password. > There appears to be no way to open this up to users to directly see and > restore from the file tree that it manages. You can delegate

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Alan McKay
> I use backuppc, but find that in order to restore one has to be or know > the admin user password. > There appears to be no way to open this up to users to directly see and > restore from the file tree that it manages. > > Huh? No. Users can do their own restores from the web interface with

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Rob Kampen
Les Mikesell wrote: On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:31 AM, wrote: I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, and here is what I found : - amanda - bacula - BackupPC - FreeNAS You missed rsync. Rsync is another one-off approach where you have to roll

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Alan McKay
Anyone have any experience with this, which just came to my attention http://www.arkeia.com/en/solutions/open-source-solutions -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael Pollan, author of "In Defense of Food" ___ CentO

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:00 AM, wrote: > I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, and here is what I found : - amanda - bacula - BackupPC - FreeNAS >>> >>> You missed rsync. >> >> Rsync is another one-off approach where you hav

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:31 AM, wrote: >> >>> I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for >>> backups, >>> and here is what I found : >>> - amanda >>> - bacula >>> - BackupPC >>> - FreeNAS >> >> You missed rsync. > > Rsync is another one-off approach w

Re: [CentOS] Help to install horde

2011-12-08 Thread Weplica
Thanks for all, but I have change apache config to alowed my IP. Quoting Mitch Patenaude : > On 12/7/11 1:46 PM, "Weplica" wrote: >> [...] >> And I do that: >> If Apache is running, you must now configure this installation of >> Horde by visiting: >> http://127.0.0.1/horde/ >> and then naviga

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:31 AM, wrote: > >> I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, >> and here is what I found : >> - amanda >> - bacula >> - BackupPC >> - FreeNAS > > You missed rsync. Rsync is another one-off approach where you have to roll your own command

Re: [CentOS] Incorrect evince password request

2011-12-08 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote: > I am against it because it adds clutter that I don't want ... also, if I > ever need to build anything on a machine with multi-lib it is very hard > to control what the auto config/compile tools do. > > Then there are sometimes issues with the way RH does

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread m . roth
Alan McKay wrote: > Hey folks, > > I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, > and here is what I found : > - amanda > - bacula > - BackupPC > - FreeNAS You missed rsync. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@ce

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Alan McKay
> > I'm pretty sure I saw a note on the networker list that 7.6 SP3 works > with update 27, update 29, and java 7. > > Well we don't have a support contract - is it a free upgrade? -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael Pollan, author of "In Defense of Foo

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Philippe Naudin wrote: >> >> If you want mostly-online backups with perhaps an occasional tar >> archive, it will be hard to beat backuppc because of it's storage >> pooling and ability to run over rsync or smb with no remote agents. >> For all-tape, I'd probably go

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Philippe Naudin
Le jeu 08 déc 2011 09:43:21 CET, Les Mikesell a écrit: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Alan McKay wrote: > > > > Here is my situation : we have pretty much all Sun hardware with a Sun > > StorageTek SL24 tape unit backing it all up.  OSes are a combination of > > RHEL and CentOS.  The software

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Craig White
On Dec 8, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Alan McKay wrote: >> >> Here is my situation : we have pretty much all Sun hardware with a Sun >> StorageTek SL24 tape unit backing it all up. OSes are a combination of >> RHEL and CentOS. The software we are us

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Alan McKay wrote: > > Here is my situation : we have pretty much all Sun hardware with a Sun > StorageTek SL24 tape unit backing it all up.  OSes are a combination of > RHEL and CentOS.  The software we are using is EMC > >    NetWorker Management Console version 3.

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Lars Hecking
> NetWorker Management Console version 3.5.1.Build.269 > based on NetWorker version 7.5.1.Build.269 > > The pickle we are in right now is that this software is Java based, and > stops working at a very specific release of JRE (1.6.26 or something like > that). We still have some machine

[CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Alan McKay
Hey folks, I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, and here is what I found : - amanda - bacula - BackupPC - FreeNAS Here is my situation : we have pretty much all Sun hardware with a Sun StorageTek SL24 tape unit backing it all up. OSes are a combination of RH

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread m . roth
Coming into this late Scott Robbins wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 01:38:04PM +, Karanbir Singh wrote: >> On 12/08/2011 08:11 AM, Jeff Gordon wrote: >> > Hi, Folks -- >> > >> > I'm setting up an Acer Aspire 5250 as a Christmas gift, CentOS 6 >> > netinstall insists on trying to configure

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 01:38:04PM +, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 12/08/2011 08:11 AM, Jeff Gordon wrote: > > Hi, Folks -- > > > > I'm setting up an Acer Aspire 5250 as a Christmas gift, CentOS 6 netinstall > > insists on trying to configure wlan0 but I'm using a wired DSL connection, > > conse

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/08/2011 08:11 AM, Jeff Gordon wrote: > Hi, Folks -- > > I'm setting up an Acer Aspire 5250 as a Christmas gift, CentOS 6 netinstall > insists on trying to configure wlan0 but I'm using a wired DSL connection, > consequently netinstall fails and only offers the option to Retry. how do you kn

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/08/2011 09:28 AM, Bert Koerperich wrote: > Hi Jeff, > then sorry for this :) > I have to admit that I up to now only installed other linux-distribs and > there has been always a way to open a console via alt-f1, or f2 etc pp. you can do that on CentOS as well! its on VC#2, but only once sta

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 12/08/2011 10:38 AM, Jeff Gordon piše: > Hi, John -- > > Thanks. :-) Looks like it'd be Fn + F3 on this one, but I suspect they set > it up to work that way with Windows. There's no light to be seen anywhere, > and pressing it made no difference to CentoOS netinstall. > Netinstall will no

Re: [CentOS] /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.12.2011 09:30, schrieb Fajar Priyanto: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Cliff Pratt wrote: >> You can put a crontab file in there. Just don't alter any of the >> others. Crond automatically runs everything in /etc/cron.d, in >> /etc/crontab, and in user crontabs. >> > That's what I though

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 12/08/2011 10:13 AM, Jeff Gordon piše: > Hi, Bert -- > > Thanks. :-) Doesn't seem to be an opportunity or way to open a console > before this problem comes up, with netinstall. I just scanned to see if > there might be a kernel parameter for it; doesn't seem to be. > > -- Jeff -- > Jeff

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Re: [CentOS] UC /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Rushton Martin
>From man 8 cron Cron searches /var/spool/cron for crontab files which are named after accounts ... Cron also searches for /etc/crontab and the files in the directory, which are in a different format (see crontab(5) ). So cron itself knows about /etc/cron.d and

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Jeff Gordon
Hi, John -- Thanks. :-) Looks like it'd be Fn + F3 on this one, but I suspect they set it up to work that way with Windows. There's no light to be seen anywhere, and pressing it made no difference to CentoOS netinstall. -- Jeff -- On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 12:58:08AM -0800, John R Pierce wrote:

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Tom De Vylder
Hi Jeff, You can use Alt + F3 or Alt + F4 once you're inside the installer to open a console. If you disable the wlan0 interface before the network part of the installer you should be ok. Regards, Tom On 08 Dec 2011, at 10:13, Jeff Gordon wrote: > Hi, Bert -- > > Thanks. :-) Doesn't seem t

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Bert Koerperich
On 12/08/2011 10:13 AM, Jeff Gordon wrote: > Hi, Bert -- > > Thanks. :-) Doesn't seem to be an opportunity or way to open a console > before this problem comes up, with netinstall. I just scanned to see if > there might be a kernel parameter for it; doesn't seem to be. > > -- Jeff -- > > On Thu

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Jeff Gordon
Hi, Bert -- Thanks. :-) Doesn't seem to be an opportunity or way to open a console before this problem comes up, with netinstall. I just scanned to see if there might be a kernel parameter for it; doesn't seem to be. -- Jeff -- On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 09:53:42AM +0100, Bert Koerperich wrote:

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/08/11 12:52 AM, Jeff Gordon wrote: > Thanks. :-) I removed two screws that seemed to be holding a cover in place > over the HD-and-memory compartment, but the cover remained pretty tightly in > place anyway. Dunno what I'm missing -- but if there's a switch in this > laptop > I'd figure it

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Bert Koerperich
On 12/08/2011 09:34 AM, Fabien Archambault wrote: > On 12/08/2011 09:11 AM, Jeff Gordon wrote: >> Hi, Folks -- >> >> I'm setting up an Acer Aspire 5250 as a Christmas gift, CentOS 6 netinstall >> insists on trying to configure wlan0 but I'm using a wired DSL connection, >> consequently netinstall f

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Jeff Gordon
Hi, Fabien -- Thanks. :-) I removed two screws that seemed to be holding a cover in place over the HD-and-memory compartment, but the cover remained pretty tightly in place anyway. Dunno what I'm missing -- but if there's a switch in this laptop I'd figure it must be in there. (?) Now what...

Re: [CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Fabien Archambault
On 12/08/2011 09:11 AM, Jeff Gordon wrote: > Hi, Folks -- > > I'm setting up an Acer Aspire 5250 as a Christmas gift, CentOS 6 netinstall > insists on trying to configure wlan0 but I'm using a wired DSL connection, > consequently netinstall fails and only offers the option to Retry. > > How can I g

Re: [CentOS] /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Cliff Pratt wrote: > You can put a crontab file in there. Just don't alter any of the > others. Crond automatically runs everything in /etc/cron.d, in > /etc/crontab, and in user crontabs. > That's what I thought, but /etc/crontab only mention this: # run-parts 01

Re: [CentOS] /etc/cron.d

2011-12-08 Thread Cliff Pratt
You can put a crontab file in there. Just don't alter any of the others. Crond automatically runs everything in /etc/cron.d, in /etc/crontab, and in user crontabs. Cheers, Cliff On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > Hi all, > Who takes care of cronjob in /etc/cron.d ? > Should

[CentOS] Netinstall wants to use wlan0

2011-12-08 Thread Jeff Gordon
Hi, Folks -- I'm setting up an Acer Aspire 5250 as a Christmas gift, CentOS 6 netinstall insists on trying to configure wlan0 but I'm using a wired DSL connection, consequently netinstall fails and only offers the option to Retry. How can I get it to bypass the wlan0 idea and go straight to eth0.