RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-27 Thread Bob Taylor
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 15:27 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: [big snip] > I'd be interested in seeing a complete /var/log/yum.log file > and the date of the last successful yum update. I have attached both yum.log files. Possible dates of interest are: Oct 10 09:14:15 Installed: kernel.i686 2.6.

[CentOS] perl error on CentOS

2008-02-27 Thread Rogelio
when i type 'perl perlscript.pl, I get the following error Can't locate version.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5

Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-27 Thread Bob Taylor
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 12:19 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 06:29 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > > > > If we can nail down something that changed /etc/rpm/platform it would be > > > good, as that file

RE: [CentOS] proliant ml370

2008-02-27 Thread Robert - elists
Oops. I made a mistake on that last link for a Compaq smartstart cd I apologize This is better, and please notice the wrap http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?prodName Id=344318&lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=18964&prodSeriesId=345557&taskId=135 as an example, to get

RE: [CentOS] proliant ml370

2008-02-27 Thread Robert - elists
Also Here is an actual download link for smart start cd http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lan g=en&cc=US&swItem=MTX-370430439b0e4f4dbaef91ce39 otherwise you will only find pay links you will have to choose an old old opsys to get a 5.5 link, like windows

RE: [CentOS] proliant ml370

2008-02-27 Thread Robert - elists
> > hi all, > > i just inherit a server: > > Compaq ProLiant ML370 Generation 2 Server with Smart Array 5300 > Controller with 6x18.2GB hard drives. > > i want to install centos 5 on it with hardware raid 1. any idea how? it > also has a build-in and add-on ethernet cards. how do i know whic

Re: [CentOS] smokeping on CentOS questions

2008-02-27 Thread John R Pierce
I rm'd the sym link and put that (exactly) along with order deny, allow deny from all allow from all I still cannot get in. Is this an Apache issue? (I suppose that I don't understand how these directory definitions work very well) yes, it is an apache issue. try adding this (inside the

Re: [CentOS] smokeping on CentOS questions

2008-02-27 Thread Garrick Staples
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 09:54:22PM -0800, John R Pierce alleged: > /etc/httpd/conf.d/smokering.conf: >Alias /smokering/ /usr/local/smokering/htdocs/ > >AllowOverride All >Options MultiViews All > Don't you need to get rid of the trailing slashes in the Alias? Tha

Re: [CentOS] smokeping on CentOS questions

2008-02-27 Thread Rogelio
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:54 PM, John R Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When I go to "www.mybox.com/smokeping > > ", all I get is a list of files, not > > the webpage I would expect to get. > > > > What might I be doing wrong? > > > apache isn't real fond of s

RE: [CentOS] how to uninstall

2008-02-27 Thread scaglietti amore
thank u i will try that when i get home > > scaglietti amore wrote:> > > > > > hello guys> > > > i have centos5.1, and > > my subject is :> > > > when i install a package without the rpm tool cause > > its not rpm > > package like configure , make , make install> > > > how can > > i uninsta

Re: [CentOS] how to uninstall

2008-02-27 Thread John R Pierce
scaglietti amore wrote: hello guys i have centos5.1, and my subject is : when i install a package without the rpm tool cause its not rpm package like configure , make , make install how can i uninstall it later ? if there's an 'uninstall' target in the Makefile, then... cd project

Re: [CentOS] smokeping on CentOS questions

2008-02-27 Thread John R Pierce
Rogelio wrote: I'm having some problems getting CentOS to serve up my Smokeping pages (http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/) However, I'm having problems getting the pages to serve up correctly. Here is a quick run down of what I've done. (1) wget and untar to /usr/local/smokeping (2) chown -R ro

[CentOS] MRTG question on CentOS

2008-02-27 Thread Rogelio
I'm trying to get MRTG up and running on CentOS, but the displayed http page says that I don't have permission to access /mrtg/ on the server. Here are my commands yum install mrtg vim /etc/httpd/conf.d/mrtg.conf /etc/init.d/httpd restart cfgmaker --global 'WorkDir: /var/www/mrtg' --global 'Optio

[CentOS] how to uninstall

2008-02-27 Thread scaglietti amore
hello guys i have centos5.1, and my subject is : when i install a package without the rpm tool cause its not rpm package like configure , make , make install how can i uninstall it later ? thank u all for ur time _ Expres

Re: [CentOS] smokeping on CentOS questions

2008-02-27 Thread Barry Brimer
I'm having some problems getting CentOS to serve up my Smokeping pages ( http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/) However, I'm having problems getting the pages to serve up correctly. Here is a quick run down of what I've done. (1) wget and untar to /usr/local/smokeping (2) chown -R root:root /usr/loca

[CentOS] smokeping on CentOS questions

2008-02-27 Thread Rogelio
I'm having some problems getting CentOS to serve up my Smokeping pages ( http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/) However, I'm having problems getting the pages to serve up correctly. Here is a quick run down of what I've done. (1) wget and untar to /usr/local/smokeping (2) chown -R root:root /usr/local

RE: [CentOS] Networking problems with fresh install

2008-02-27 Thread Joseph L. Casale
> I just did a fresh install of centos 5.0 from cd, followed by yum > update > which installed 399 packages. No failures or errors that I can see. > > I have three nics in the box, but am only setting up one at the moment. > > The box can ping others in my network, but if I try ssh, telnet, ftp, >

[CentOS] Networking problems with fresh install

2008-02-27 Thread Chuck Campbell
I just did a fresh install of centos 5.0 from cd, followed by yum update which installed 399 packages. No failures or errors that I can see. I have three nics in the box, but am only setting up one at the moment. The box can ping others in my network, but if I try ssh, telnet, ftp, etc I get thi

Re: [CentOS] Re: Gnumeric

2008-02-27 Thread Primorec
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 2/27/2008 4:38 PM Scott Silva spake the following: > > > on 2/27/2008 4:31 PM Primorec spake the following: > >> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Karanbir Singh > >> > > >> wrote: > >>> Primorec wrote: > [EMAIL P

[CentOS] Re: Gnumeric

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Silva
on 2/27/2008 4:38 PM Scott Silva spake the following: on 2/27/2008 4:31 PM Primorec spake the following: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: Primorec wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]# yum install gnumeric Parsing package install arguments Nothing to do Here I am now. I do not

[CentOS] Re: Gnumeric

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Silva
on 2/27/2008 4:31 PM Primorec spake the following: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: Primorec wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]# yum install gnumeric Parsing package install arguments Nothing to do Here I am now. I do not know how to procede from here. What arch are you runnin

Re: [CentOS] Re: Gnumeric

2008-02-27 Thread Primorec
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Primorec wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]# yum install gnumeric > > > Parsing package install arguments > > Nothing to do > > > > Here I am now. I do not know how to procede from here. > > What arch are you running ? Is

Re: [CentOS] Re: Gnumeric

2008-02-27 Thread Karanbir Singh
Primorec wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]# yum install gnumeric Parsing package install arguments Nothing to do Here I am now. I do not know how to procede from here. What arch are you running ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [CentOS] Re: Gnumeric

2008-02-27 Thread Primorec
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 2/27/2008 2:24 PM Primorec spake the following: > > > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 2:02 PM, Karanbir Singh > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

RE: [CentOS] proliant ml370

2008-02-27 Thread Joseph L. Casale
> hi all, > > i just inherit a server: > > Compaq ProLiant ML370 Generation 2 Server with Smart Array 5300 > Controller with 6x18.2GB hard drives. > > i want to install centos 5 on it with hardware raid 1. any idea how? > it > also has a build-in and add-on ethernet cards. how do i know which one

[CentOS] Re: NFSroot is acting strange in CentOS5

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Silva
on 2/27/2008 3:34 PM vincenzo romero spake the following: I haven't done it since kernel 2.2 days so my knowledge is old and rusty, like me. LOL! .. :) Have you looked on any of the distros set up for this like k12LTSP? Maybe they have a more current set of docs. well, I found the iss

Re: [CentOS] Re: NFSroot is acting strange in CentOS5

2008-02-27 Thread vincenzo romero
> I haven't done it since kernel 2.2 days so my knowledge is old and rusty, > like me. > LOL! .. :) > Have you looked on any of the distros set up for this like k12LTSP? > Maybe they have a more current set of docs. > well, I found the issue - this was a problem in the 2.6.18 kernel; and a f

[CentOS] Re: NFSroot is acting strange in CentOS5

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Silva
on 2/27/2008 2:53 PM vincenzo romero spake the following: Thanks for your reply Scott. I haven't done this in a long time but do your workstation kernels have root nfs in them? config_root_nfs This could be obsolete these days. Yes, at least with Centos5 and fedora6 (2.6.18 kernels are w

[CentOS] Re: Gnumeric

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Silva
on 2/27/2008 2:24 PM Primorec spake the following: On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 2:02 PM, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there a yum repository that has them or a yum repository for >

Re: [CentOS] Re: NFSroot is acting strange in CentOS5

2008-02-27 Thread vincenzo romero
Thanks for your reply Scott. > I haven't done this in a long time but do your workstation kernels have root > nfs in them? > config_root_nfs > This could be obsolete these days. > Yes, at least with Centos5 and fedora6 (2.6.18 kernels are what I am testing with on both distros), i have config

Re: [CentOS] Gnumeric

2008-02-27 Thread Primorec
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 2:02 PM, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Is there a yum repository that has them or a yum repository for > > gnumeric? > > > > I have a snapshot of gnumeric in my Misc repository ( for i386 only so > far, x86_64 and ppc coming soon )

Re: [CentOS] OT: Thunderbird2 for 64 bits

2008-02-27 Thread nate
Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: >> In 64-bit mode I wouldn't be surprised if the same usage would >> come out to 500MB+ memory usage. > > Again why? Because 64-bit apps in general use more memory SSH 64-bit: root 4193 0.0 0.0 21932 1272 ?Ss Jan29 1:00 /usr/sbin/sshd SSH 32-bit: ro

Re: [CentOS] OT: Thunderbird2 for 64 bits

2008-02-27 Thread Simon Jolle sjolle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/22/2008 04:46 PM, nate wrote: > carlopmart wrote: > > I'd suggest sticking to 32-bit. Thunderbird is already a memory pig, > using 64-bit version would only make it worse. Why? > My Thunderbird has been running for about 18 hours and is using

Re: [CentOS] bash - safely pass untrusted strings?

2008-02-27 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Garrick Staples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'name=val >$name' is a weird case that I can't explain. It is not related to > 'name=val command' because there is no command. It acts like two statements > when syntacticaly it is one. It think it is a bug. Avo

Re: [CentOS] Xen or VMWARE on CentOS 5

2008-02-27 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Matt Shields wrote: I've never tried this, but someone was telling me that it might be possible to serve up ASP and ASP.net with Apache and mono. I don't know if this is true, but might be worth checking out. Yes, it is true, but mono or even chilliasp isn't the same as native ASP.Net,

RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-27 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Bob Taylor wrote: > On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 06:29 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > Bob Taylor wrote: > > [snip] > > > > OK! Thanks Johnny. You just confirmed a bug here. Now I will, as time > > > allows, see if I can discover why /etc/rpm/platform is incorrect. Since > > > the file is in an rpm dire

RE: [CentOS] Xen or VMWARE on CentOS 5

2008-02-27 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > David Mackintosh wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 08:03:09AM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > > > >> Ern jura wrote: > >> > >>> Does anyone out there have a comprehensive tutorial on installing VMware > >>> and > >>> successfully managing virtual machines with either xen

Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-27 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 06:29 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > > If we can nail down something that changed /etc/rpm/platform it would be > > good, as that file should never change. > > Thanks again Johnny for the info. Th

Re: [CentOS] Xen or VMWARE on CentOS 5

2008-02-27 Thread Matt Shields
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Rudi Ahlers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David Mackintosh wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 08:03:09AM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > > > >> Ern jura wrote: > >> > >>> Does anyone out there have a comprehensive tutorial on installing VMware > >>> and > >>> s

Re: [CentOS] Xen or VMWARE on CentOS 5

2008-02-27 Thread Les Mikesell
Rudi Ahlers wrote: With VMware you can copy your disk images over to a Windows or Mac host and run them with no changes (Mac version isn't free, though). This is pretty much what I do. I also keep stock "reference" images for each OS I support and copy from the reference image every t

Re: [CentOS] Xen or VMWARE on CentOS 5

2008-02-27 Thread Rudi Ahlers
David Mackintosh wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 08:03:09AM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: Ern jura wrote: Does anyone out there have a comprehensive tutorial on installing VMware and successfully managing virtual machines with either xen or vmware? VMware is pretty simple: download

[CentOS] Re: NFSroot is acting strange in CentOS5

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Silva
on 2/26/2008 5:31 PM vincenzo romero spake the following: Hello all, I have observed a problem with a diskless PXE client I am attempting to configure. PXE/NFS/DHCP/TFTPd server is running CentOS5.1 and the Diskless workstation's root and kernel was extracted from a CentOS5.1 (custom kernel due

Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-27 Thread Bob Taylor
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 06:29 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: [snip] > > OK! Thanks Johnny. You just confirmed a bug here. Now I will, as time > > allows, see if I can discover why /etc/rpm/platform is incorrect. Since > > the file is in an rpm directory, shall I look at rpm? I prom

[CentOS] proliant ml370

2008-02-27 Thread Hiep Nguyen
hi all, i just inherit a server: Compaq ProLiant ML370 Generation 2 Server with Smart Array 5300 Controller with 6x18.2GB hard drives. i want to install centos 5 on it with hardware raid 1. any idea how? it also has a build-in and add-on ethernet cards. how do i know which one is which to

Re: [CentOS] bash - safely pass untrusted strings?

2008-02-27 Thread Garrick Staples
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:46:13AM -0600, Les Mikesell alleged: > Stephen Harris wrote: > > >>Yes, but I'm looking for what happens before and after. Why does > >>unset foo > >>foo=bar >$foo > >>do something you might expect, but > >>unset foo > >>foo=bar echo $foo >$foo > >>doesn't? > > > >What

Re: [CentOS] bash - safely pass untrusted strings?

2008-02-27 Thread Les Mikesell
Stephen Harris wrote: Yes, but I'm looking for what happens before and after. Why does unset foo foo=bar >$foo do something you might expect, but unset foo foo=bar echo $foo >$foo doesn't? What would you expect the last to do? "foo=bar echo $foo" only sets "foo" inside the scope of the "echo

Re: [CentOS] Xen or VMWARE on CentOS 5

2008-02-27 Thread David Mackintosh
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 08:03:09AM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > Ern jura wrote: > >Does anyone out there have a comprehensive tutorial on installing VMware > >and > >successfully managing virtual machines with either xen or vmware? > > VMware is pretty simple: download the server rpm, install it,

RE: [CentOS] Pointer to simple mail server setup?

2008-02-27 Thread Jonathan Dade
I would look at www.howtoforge.com then have a look for a redhat / centos mail server. You'll find a few there. Good luck Jonathan Dade       T. + 44 (0) 870 382 5529 MSN. [EMAIL PROTECTED]   M.+ 44 (0) 7912 407 901 Skype. jondade   F  +44 (0) 870 382 5520   www.jetnexus.com   jetNEXUS - 'We m

Re: [CentOS] put command is not working in tftp server

2008-02-27 Thread ankush grover
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Lorenzo Quatrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nate ha scritto: > > > ankush grover wrote: > > > >> Please let me know if you need any further inputs. > > > > I'm not sure if it applies to all tftp servers but for > > the most part the file your uploading must

Re: [CentOS] put command is not working in tftp server

2008-02-27 Thread Lorenzo Quatrini
nate ha scritto: ankush grover wrote: Please let me know if you need any further inputs. I'm not sure if it applies to all tftp servers but for the most part the file your uploading must already exist and be world writable. touch /tftpboot/filename chmod 666 /tftpboot/filename then upload f

Re: [CentOS] bash - safely pass untrusted strings?

2008-02-27 Thread Jacques B.
Here's a little script that I have to play around with positional parameters. I'm pretty certain I did not author this one but got it either off the web or ina book. I added a line of comment in it but I don't believe I made any other contributions to it. Jacques B. #!/bin/bash # arglist.sh #

Re: [CentOS] put command is not working in tftp server

2008-02-27 Thread nate
ankush grover wrote: > Please let me know if you need any further inputs. I'm not sure if it applies to all tftp servers but for the most part the file your uploading must already exist and be world writable. touch /tftpboot/filename chmod 666 /tftpboot/filename then upload filename (assuming

Re: [CentOS] Pointer to simple mail server setup?

2008-02-27 Thread centos
Steve, The easiest way is to use SME Server which is based on CentOS. Have a look at: http://wiki.contribs.org/Main_Page Rob - Original Message - From: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CentOS Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: [CentOS] Pointer to

[CentOS] put command is not working in tftp server

2008-02-27 Thread ankush grover
Hi Friends, I am trying to configure a tftp server on Centos 5.0. get command is working fine but not the put command. I searched on the google and tried few things like 777 on /tftpboot, changing ownership to nobody on /tftpboot and also in /etc/xinetd.d/tftp, adding -c as server_args but still

Re: [CentOS] bash - safely pass untrusted strings?

2008-02-27 Thread Stephen Harris
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:16:27PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > Yes, but I'm looking for what happens before and after. Why does > unset foo > foo=bar >$foo > do something you might expect, but > unset foo > foo=bar echo $foo >$foo > doesn't? What would you expect the last to do? "foo=bar echo

RE: [CentOS] Xen or VMWARE on CentOS 5

2008-02-27 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > > > > I'm not a big fan of Redhat's version of Xen and use the Xen 3.2 > > packages from xen.org as it has better management features through > > 'xm'. You will need to compile your own for 64-bit though as they only > > provide 32-bit binaries by

Re: [CentOS] Xen or VMWARE on CentOS 5

2008-02-27 Thread Les Mikesell
Ern jura wrote: Does anyone out there have a comprehensive tutorial on installing VMware and successfully managing virtual machines with either xen or vmware? VMware is pretty simple: download the server rpm, install it, run the vmware-config.pl setup script to set the options and install your

Re: [CentOS] Xen or VMWARE on CentOS 5

2008-02-27 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Ross S. W. Walker wrote: I'm not a big fan of Redhat's version of Xen and use the Xen 3.2 packages from xen.org as it has better management features through 'xm'. You will need to compile your own for 64-bit though as they only provide 32-bit binaries by default and if you want to run Xen a

Re: [CentOS] Xen or VMWARE on CentOS 5

2008-02-27 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
I'm not a big fan of Redhat's version of Xen and use the Xen 3.2 packages from xen.org as it has better management features through 'xm'. You will need to compile your own for 64-bit though as they only provide 32-bit binaries by default and if you want to run Xen as a hosting server you really

Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-27 Thread Johnny Hughes
Bob Taylor wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 16:09 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: [snip] Would anaconda even allow C5 to install on such a class cpu? no ... and we have no i386 kernel ... no idea how that file got changed, but the only code to make it happen would be a pentium classic processor. C

[CentOS] Xen or VMWARE on CentOS 5

2008-02-27 Thread Ern jura
Does anyone out there have a comprehensive tutorial on installing VMware and successfully managing virtual machines with either xen or vmware? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Huge mailq

2008-02-27 Thread Christopher Chan
Benjamin Smith wrote: On Monday 25 February 2008, Christopher Chan wrote: Hmm...it will still build. To really fix it, you need to do one more step: rpm -e --nodeps sendmail Now that is a permanent solution. Like a hand grenade is a "solution". Not likely to help him much, tho. =/ Doesn't e

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 36, Issue 14

2008-02-27 Thread centos-announce-request
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Re: [CentOS] bash - safely pass untrusted strings?

2008-02-27 Thread Garrick Staples
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:16:27PM -0600, Les Mikesell alleged: > Yes, but I'm looking for what happens before and after. Why does > unset foo > foo=bar >$foo This is interesting. I would have guessed a syntax error. I was surprised when it worked. This is a special case because there isn't a