Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-16 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
I guess I'll take the silence as a no to my previous question, though as a programmer I was never good at taking social queues haha. I feel like the same could be said for this entire project, especially with wayland right around the corner, but people still like their niches. We should keep in

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-16 Thread Christopher Turkel
I don’t care about dtbuilder, but dtmail is not very useful. On Thursday, January 16, 2020, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel < cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > I guess I'll take the silence as a no to my previous question, though as a > programmer I was never good at taking social que

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-16 Thread Vladimir Nikishkin
How much job would be implementing support for Wayland in Motif? Christopher Turkel 於 2020年1月17日 週五 09:18 寫道: > I don’t care about dtbuilder, but dtmail is not very useful. > > On Thursday, January 16, 2020, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel < > cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >> I g

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-16 Thread Jon Trulson
On 1/16/20 5:44 PM, Chase wrote: > I guess I'll take the silence as a no to my previous question, though > as a programmer I was never good at taking social queues haha. > What question? > I feel like the same could be said for this entire project, especially > with wayland right around the corne

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-16 Thread Jon Trulson
Probably just use Xwayland :) -jon On 1/16/20 6:27 PM, Vladimir Nikishkin wrote: > How much job would be implementing support for Wayland in Motif? > > Christopher Turkel > 於 2020年1月17日 週五 09:18 寫道: > > I don’t care about dtbuilder, but dtmail is not

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-16 Thread Matthew R. Trower
DtAppBuilder is a bit weird, and not my niche to comment on.  As for DtMail...If it had IMAP support I'd be using it today.  It's actually always irked me that I can't.  It has some rough edges, but those can also be smoothed.  It doesn't do HTML mail, but not everyone even wants HTML mail.I haven

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-16 Thread Brian Cole
It wouldn't just be wayland support in motif. Even if we had wayland+motif working *now*, it would only help with applications. CDE is fundamentally a X11 window manager, and X11 window managers are a tiny part of the equivalent in wayland. Wayland, for... better or worse... has "compositors" in

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-16 Thread Jon Trulson
On 1/16/20 7:34 PM, Brian Cole wrote: > It wouldn't just be wayland support in motif. Even if we had > wayland+motif working /now/, it would only help with applications. CDE > is fundamentally a X11 window manager, and X11 window managers are a > tiny part of the equivalent in wayland. Wayland, for

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-16 Thread Jon Trulson
On 1/16/20 7:24 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: > DtAppBuilder is a bit weird, and not my niche to comment on.  As for > DtMail... > > If it had IMAP support I'd be using it today.  It's actually always > irked me that I can't.  It has some rough edges, but those can also be > smoothed.  It doesn't do

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-16 Thread Jill Veldhuis
dtmail does indeed support IMAP, and I've had it running with my home dovecot server without issue. It's certainly a primitive MUA but I don't really understand the sheer level of *hate* I keep seeing for it. Seems like getting it up to a fundamentally "usable" level would only take two things