Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2016-06-13 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis
I added a wiki page and linked to that with a note from the "Linux Build" page. Antonis. On 13/06/2016 01:39 μμ, Martin Etteldorf wrote: > Hello Antonis, > > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Antonis Tsolomitis > wrote: >> For example, I see patches sent through the list >> that are spec

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2016-06-13 Thread Martin Etteldorf
Hello Antonis, On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > For example, I see patches sent through the list > that are specific to OpenBSD, or to Solaris etc. > So CDE does not get patched with a "common denominator" attitude. > It does things differently on different platform

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2016-06-13 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis
I understand your argument and the difficulties to fix it, but I do not understand "the rules". For example, I see patches sent through the list that are specific to OpenBSD, or to Solaris etc. So CDE does not get patched with a "common denominator" attitude. It does things differently on differ

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2016-06-13 Thread Martin Etteldorf
Hello Antonis, On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > so a reasonable question is whether there must be a patch or not. I don't think a patch would be a good idea, unless it covers all possible platforms and device instances. But how can we tell what device someone is actu

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2016-06-13 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis
Hello Martin, thanks, I will do what you suggest, and obviously the problem will be solved. However commands such as setfacl -m "u:user:rw-" /dev/snd/* start looking very ..."internal/mysterious". Many users may feel comfortable with chmod but ...setfacl . god, it looks bad... so a reason

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2016-06-13 Thread Martin Etteldorf
Hello Antonis, On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > > On (at least) Ubuntu the login process (both lightdm and console) > modifies the access rights to /dev/snd/* > so that the sound devices accept sound streams with user permissions. > > But this does not work with dtlog

[cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2016-06-13 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis
On (at least) Ubuntu the login process (both lightdm and console) modifies the access rights to /dev/snd/* so that the sound devices accept sound streams with user permissions. But this does not work with dtlogin When you login with dtlogin the sound devices do not get user rights. So the sound

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound (startover)

2014-02-26 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis
Στις 27/02/2014 04:35 πμ, ο/η Jon Trulson έγραψε: > On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Isaac Dunham wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 09:12:28AM +0200, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: >>> >>> OK, I think the discussion went to the wrong direction. The question >>> is : >>> >>> Lets say we have a Linux box with pulse

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound (startover)

2014-02-26 Thread Jon Trulson
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Isaac Dunham wrote: On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 09:12:28AM +0200, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: OK, I think the discussion went to the wrong direction. The question is : Lets say we have a Linux box with pulseaudio configured and running. How can one login with dtlogin and start

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-24 Thread Robert Tomsick
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 09:41:11PM +0200, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > > > > > > You are probably correct. But this means that one would not use pulse at > > all. (Pulse is already in the audio group > > so using pulse does not need to add users to that group). What you > > suggest is a solutio

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound (startover)

2014-02-24 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 09:12:28AM +0200, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > > OK, I think the discussion went to the wrong direction. The question is : > > Lets say we have a Linux box with pulseaudio configured and running. How > can one login with dtlogin > and start pulseaudio correctly as a user so

[cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound (startover)

2014-02-23 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis
OK, I think the discussion went to the wrong direction. The question is : Lets say we have a Linux box with pulseaudio configured and running. How can one login with dtlogin and start pulseaudio correctly as a user so that the sound will work. After I login with dtogin I can run /usr/bin/pulsea

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-23 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 09:41:11PM +0200, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > > > > > Στις 23/02/2014 07:09 μμ, ο/η Johannes von Rotz έγραψε: > > On 02/21/2014 09:50 AM, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > >> OK. You are right. But do you see what should be done and how? > > Good evening. > > > > Just for the

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-23 Thread Pascal Stumpf
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 16:12:04 -0700 (MST), Jon Trulson wrote: > On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, Johannes von Rotz wrote: > > > On 02/23/2014 08:41 PM, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > >> You are probably correct. But this means that one would not use pulse at > >> all. (Pulse is already in the audio group > >> so

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-23 Thread Jon Trulson
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, Johannes von Rotz wrote: On 02/23/2014 08:41 PM, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: You are probably correct. But this means that one would not use pulse at all. (Pulse is already in the audio group so using pulse does not need to add users to that group). What you suggest is a solu

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-23 Thread Johannes von Rotz
On 02/23/2014 08:41 PM, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > You are probably correct. But this means that one would not use pulse at > all. (Pulse is already in the audio group > so using pulse does not need to add users to that group). What you > suggest is a solution for me and thank you for this. > But

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-23 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis
Στις 23/02/2014 07:09 μμ, ο/η Johannes von Rotz έγραψε: > On 02/21/2014 09:50 AM, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: >> OK. You are right. But do you see what should be done and how? > Good evening. > > Just for the record: I had a similar problem under CentOS 6.4 (Hm, I > guess I should update this box

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-23 Thread Johannes von Rotz
On 02/21/2014 09:50 AM, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > OK. You are right. But do you see what should be done and how? Good evening. Just for the record: I had a similar problem under CentOS 6.4 (Hm, I guess I should update this box more often). When logging into CDE via dtlogin, sound would not work

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-22 Thread ibid . ag
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:50:25AM +0200, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > 21/02/2014 09:48 , ??/?? ibid...@gmail.com : > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:07:38AM +0200, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > >>> -If pulse is a system daemon, is pulse configured to autostart > >>>

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-21 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis
Στις 21/02/2014 09:48 πμ, ο/η ibid...@gmail.com έγραψε: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:07:38AM +0200, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: >>> Questions: >>> -When does lightdm start pulse? On start, or on login? >>> (If you stop lightdm from VT1 without logging in, is pulse started?) >> Lightdm starts pulse fo

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-20 Thread ibid . ag
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:07:38AM +0200, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > > > > > Questions: > > -When does lightdm start pulse? On start, or on login? > > (If you stop lightdm from VT1 without logging in, is pulse started?) > > Lightdm starts pulse for its own use (at least) and indeed when lightdm

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-19 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis
> > Questions: > -When does lightdm start pulse? On start, or on login? > (If you stop lightdm from VT1 without logging in, is pulse started?) Lightdm starts pulse for its own use (at least) and indeed when lightdm runs, pulse runs with lightdm authority. So one could assume that this is irreleva

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-17 Thread ibid . ag
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:05:12AM +0200, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > > If CDE starts through dtlogin immediately after reboot the sound does > not work. > This is because dtlogin has no instructions to start the pulse system. > > But what is the proper way to start the pulse system for the user?

[cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-16 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis
If CDE starts through dtlogin immediately after reboot the sound does not work. This is because dtlogin has no instructions to start the pulse system. But what is the proper way to start the pulse system for the user? If we login to CDE with lightdm then stop lightdm, start dtlogin and login CDE