Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Can't build CDE on OpenBSD 5.9 ("Unassociated shell command" error with programs/dtlogin)

2016-05-28 Thread Isaac Dunham
efiles. Therefore, historical practice was restored. Strictly speaking, CDE makefiles need not be interpreted as per POSIX (I don't think we use .POSIX:), but this is a question of compatability, and that's the rationale. Hope this helps, Isaac Dunham (PS: I'm just here briefly.)

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Some plans and some questions

2016-04-29 Thread Isaac Dunham
ayer done as a widget, which can be used for 'HTML5'-style video support in XmHTML, and then XmHTML hooked up to libcurl to create a web browser. I realize that this would not be a high-feature browser, having no JS/CSS, and only limited HTML, but IMHO the main reasons to use something ne

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Getting away from ksh

2015-11-27 Thread Isaac Dunham
27;s still maintained. The AT&T Research page is the real homepage, as far as development goes. (www2.research.att.com/~astopen/download) The package is ast-ksh. However,

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] OpenBSD 5.7 AMD64 fails to compile

2015-06-16 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 03:54:09PM -0600, Jon Trulson wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jun 2015, Isaac Dunham wrote: > > >While this change is functionally equivalent to the original code > >(apart from the detail that it's actually valid), I wonder if we > >should try to update

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] OpenBSD 5.7 AMD64 fails to compile

2015-06-15 Thread Isaac Dunham
free(language); While this change is functionally equivalent to the original code (apart from the detail that it's actually valid), I wonder if we should try to update to matc

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] programs/dtappintegrate: make PATH include /bin.

2015-06-14 Thread Isaac Dunham
Without this, we fail without the /usr merge because 'date' is unavailable. --- cde/programs/dtappintegrate/dtappintegrate.src | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/cde/programs/dtappintegrate/dtappintegrate.src b/cde/programs/dtappintegrate/dtappintegrate.src index

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Working on CDE integration for Ida (can anyone test?)

2015-06-14 Thread Isaac Dunham
ly fairly quick to apply good patches. ;-) > I haven't tested the desktop registration step yet. I assume that > /usr/local/share/ida is the intended application root for ida from the > make -n. Assuming PREFIX=/usr/local, that is correct. > On 12/06/2015 05:00, Isaac Dunham wro

[cdesktopenv-devel] Working on CDE integration for Ida (can anyone test?)

2015-06-11 Thread Isaac Dunham
quot;date". To make it work without using the /usr merge, you will need to find the line that sets PATH and add ":/bin" at the end. Patch pending. Thanks, Isaac Dunham [1] https://www.kraxel.org/cgit/fbida/ ida-dt.tgz Description: application/gtar-compressed >From 8faddd2bb94fb8ef

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] LTSP5

2015-06-06 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 03:54:45PM +0300, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > > On 05/06/2015 08:01 πμ, Isaac Dunham wrote: > >On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 02:20:56PM +0300, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > >> I compiled the latest CDE version (with latest motif) on LTSP5,

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] LTSP5

2015-06-04 Thread Isaac Dunham
idunham/cdesktopenv if I'm remembering right. Sorry for the terseness, but I've been away from CDE for a while. HTH, Isaac Dunham -- ___ cdesktopenv-de

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [LINUX] HasTIRPCLib should be documented, but...

2015-05-14 Thread Isaac Dunham
gt; of inetd. Looks like I need to install and learn how to configure inetd > for CDE (pointers welcome). Install openbsd-inetd or similar, and the post-install script adds the correct configuration. HTH, Isaac Dunham --

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Where to add new filetypes?

2015-03-08 Thread Isaac Dunham
be used in CDE to > support Openoffice files. If you are interested to use them, I may add a tgz > file to my homepage. I haven't been using OO/LO recently, though if I had I'd be interested. Thank you, Isaac Dunham cde-data.tgz Description: application/gtar-compressed --

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Where to add new filetypes?

2015-03-07 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 05:19:02PM -0700, Jon Trulson wrote: > On Sat, 7 Mar 2015, Isaac Dunham wrote: > > >I'd like to add a bunch of new filetypes. > >Should I add them to datatypes.dt, or would using a new file be preferable? > > > >(I'd like to

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] contrib/rc/linux/dtlogin: Make the init script work.

2015-03-07 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 05:12:12PM -0700, Jon Trulson wrote: > On Sat, 7 Mar 2015, Isaac Dunham wrote: > > > Hi, could you resubmit in gt format-patch format? > > Thanks. > -jon If git send-email screws up, how do I do that? I set up git send-email just for this. Should

[cdesktopenv-devel] Where to add new filetypes?

2015-03-07 Thread Isaac Dunham
PNG files in a config file for an image viewer seems rather lame.) Thanks, Isaac -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Medi

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] contrib/rc/linux/dtlogin: Make the init script work.

2015-03-07 Thread Isaac Dunham
* insserv requires a shebang line * the rc script can hang if a daemon is started in the foreground * "pgrep dtlogin" apparently can match the init script, if it is started with "service dtlogin start" or similar. * reduce code duplication --- cde/contrib/rc/linux/dtlogin | 51 ++

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Problems with build on NetBSD

2015-01-30 Thread Isaac Dunham
t;. With a sed supporting -i (NetBSD sed did last I knew), here's the command: sed -e 's:^\(#define.*\)/usr/X11R7/:\1X11ProjectRoot/:g' \ -i cdesktopenv/cde/config/cf/NetBSD.cf The point here is to make X11ProjectRoot adjust *everything*. Hope this helps, Isaac Dunham --

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Problems with build on NetBSD

2015-01-29 Thread Isaac Dunham
ly) installed in /usr/pkgsrc; *all* packages it builds are installed with prefix=/usr/pkg. @Stephan: When preparing for the build (making the "imports" link), does s/X11R7/pkg/ do enough, or do you need more changes? HTH, Isaac Dunham

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] GDE, the GNU Desktop Environment (Was: Re: OS X and Autotools)

2014-11-22 Thread Isaac Dunham
ans: try to avoid autotools. It's | a huge frickin mess that is virtually impossible to trace/debug/fix | if it goes nuts (and it goes nuts way too often). The evidence would seem to be pretty clear that autotools does *not* make it easier to port software to obscure platforms in net: while

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] GDE, the GNU Desktop Environment (Was: Re: OS X and Autotools)

2014-11-21 Thread Isaac Dunham
e C code: what I wrote for my pleasure is out there regardless whether someone else provides source code, and the risk of careless violation of the license is of more concern to me. If someone grabs a copy of a binary without a license, then shares it with someone else, I don&#

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Rewriting CDE's build system to use GNU Autotools

2014-11-16 Thread Isaac Dunham
r hand, CDE 2.1 did support some UNIX98 (maybe even earlier) systems, which hypothetically should still build. So I'd guess that assuming UNIX95 or later versions of POSIX, or checking for something known to be missing on at least one supported platform, is a good guideline.

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] cde : ready for prime time?

2014-11-06 Thread Isaac Dunham
he OpenSolaris support is rather experimental. I'm not sure if it's been merged yet, and someone recently reported an FTBFS. But it's a question of porting it. I get the impression that building with Xprint disabled in Motif is rather experimental, and libXp is still needed. &

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Dtlogo.pm

2014-09-08 Thread Isaac Dunham
words, AIX CDE got an AIX-specific logo, CDE for IRIX got the SGI cube, etc. The logical application of this is that packagers could use the distribution/OS logo instead of Dtlogo.pm; Debian would use the swirl, Fedora the hat, etc. Thanks, Isaac Dunham -

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] desktop2dt v4

2014-03-20 Thread Isaac Dunham
falls back to the C locale (which I have gotten the impression is what it does), desktop2dt should skip desktop files that cannot be localized (in the case of Greek, if neither GenericName[el] nor Comment[el] are present). Thanks, Isaac Dunham ---

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] desktop2dt: script to convert desktop files to dt action databases

2014-03-10 Thread Isaac Dunham
which *might* be a better approach. But I'm afraid I haven't looked at the documentation on how to add icons for new categories...what's a good place to find documentation on that? Thanks, Isaac Dunham -- Learn G

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound (startover)

2014-02-24 Thread Isaac Dunham
t it would take changing the pulse configuration and that pulse is running because it's started with higher than user privileges. HTH, Isaac Dunham -- Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin & sound

2014-02-23 Thread Isaac Dunham
rtAudio (a cross-platform, MIT-licensed audio library) as two other choices that would make sense. (Again: I do not think CDE should do anything with audio; I don't think sound themes are useful, daemons belong in system or user configuration, and audio players and mixers will probably be bette

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtwm and icons bug

2014-02-23 Thread Isaac Dunham
con? But the icon of firefox > when minimized is 16x16. I note that EWMH allows scaling an icon from _NET_WM_ICON... TWM has a similar issue, for which the workaround was to use ForceIcons. HTH, Isaac Dunham -- Managing

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] sound control

2014-01-07 Thread Isaac Dunham
e commands above, and then s/Sun/XF86/. I see something about "SAC" (Solaris Audio Control), as well as sdtaudioctl (the latter is Sun's program, the former is a FOSS alternative.) And apparently there was once another program known as audiocontrol, which shipped with HP/UX and older S

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Add -quiet option to dtlogin.

2013-09-23 Thread Isaac Dunham
This should shut up the console spamming, for those who use VT1. Default behavior is not changed. --- cde/doc/C/guides/man/man1_dt/login.sgm | 10 +- cde/programs/dtlogin/dm.c |2 ++ cde/programs/dtlogin/dm.h |1 + cde/programs/dtlogin/resource.c

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH 1/2] dtlogin: use proper path to getty and /usr/local/bin in path on Linux

2013-09-23 Thread Isaac Dunham
--- cde/programs/dtlogin/config/Xconfig.src |4 +--- cde/programs/dtlogin/dm.c |2 ++ 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/cde/programs/dtlogin/config/Xconfig.src b/cde/programs/dtlogin/config/Xconfig.src index 57f0ec9..ad6ba47 100644 --- a/cde/prog

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] use /sbin/getty and /usr/local/bin/ on linux

2013-09-23 Thread Isaac
much easier to review and apply > patches. OK. I presume the default output is satisfactory? > >Also, /usr/local/bin is used on Linux as well as BSD. So add it to the > >default path. > > > >Thanks, > >Isaac Dunham > > > >PS: Copying policy: > >

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Crash in ttsession starting CDE on Ubuntu 12.04

2013-05-04 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:48:36 + cdesktopenv-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 11:52:34 +, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Isaac Dunham wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 12:36:19 + > > > > &

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Crash in ttsession starting CDE on Ubuntu 12.04

2013-04-10 Thread Isaac Dunham
lled yet. If this code is returned from tt_open() it means > ttsession could not be started, which generally means ToolTalk is not > installed on this system. > " > *** [331] -- Isaac Dunham -- Pr

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] porting on Autotools initiative

2013-02-04 Thread Isaac Dunham
gs: No current X11 has these, but probably some older systems do. Are they here by accretion? It seems to me that one could easily write a script that checks for a few tools and libraries,then writes a new site.def (I think that's the file...); in fact, I wrote a script that gets all opti

[cdesktopenv-devel] porting on Autotools initiative

2013-02-03 Thread Isaac Dunham
doesn't properly handle certain things (for example, they exported an AIX misfeature so they broke static linking in most build systems...) [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=140837 -- Isaac Dunham ---

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] BSD licensed contributions?

2012-11-27 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:53:59 -0500 (EST) Robert Tomsick wrote: > > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Isaac Dunham wrote: > > > FYI: 3-clause BSD is MIT + "Binary distributions must include this > > copyright notice in accompanying documentation" (clause 2). 2-clause

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] BSD licensed contributions?

2012-11-27 Thread Isaac Dunham
eventually, but we can't right now. If you want to contribute, please do so under terms that will not impede *that* conversion." > but I just wanted to double check. > > Thanks, > Rob -- Isaac Dunham ---

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] freeze on Lucid

2012-11-27 Thread Isaac Dunham
> > Since everything seems to have compiled except documentation, I went > ahead installing CDE. > > Back to lightdm and I login to CDE. Desktop starts (it goes past the > dthello) > and starts the panel, the help viewer and in a couple of seconds it crashes. > It freezes. > > Is it possible it

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin init script changes

2012-11-24 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:11:24 -0700 (MST) Jon Trulson wrote: > On Mon, 5 Nov 2012, Isaac Dunham wrote: > > > I've been poking at the dtlogin initscript on and off. > > I found a few rough edges: > > 1: dtlogin must be started in the background, and certainly should

[cdesktopenv-devel] dtlogin init script changes

2012-11-05 Thread Isaac Dunham
on rpcbind (if rpcbind hasn't started, ttsession goes to 100%) This script as I have it is not quite ideal, but it works better than the current one. -- Isaac Dunham dtlogin Description: Binary data -- LogMeIn Centra

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] DTWM and Xinerama

2012-10-30 Thread Isaac Dunham
(0x3b42b000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x3b4a3000) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x3b4ac000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x3b4b1000) libexpat.so.1 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x3b4c5000) That said, it *might* be relatively

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Motif 2.3.4 - it's official

2012-10-25 Thread Isaac Dunham
one contacted IST? Or have the bugs regarding internationalization (mainly affecting Nedit users) been fixed? I'm asking these here, because the "proper" place (the Motif mailing list) appears not to exist, and some people are involved in both projects. Thanks, Isaac Dunham -

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Usability problems

2012-10-15 Thread Isaac Dunham
ease, digital clock! Maybe can we get > > smaller icons in the Panel? > > dtwm can be extensively configured and you can probably get smaller > icons or other stuff. No idea about the clock (I'm fine with analog > one). I prefer analog myself. But you mig

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] cdesktopenv-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 22

2012-09-27 Thread Isaac Dunham
ring why Linux choose -b&h-lucidabright- > which is a serif font. > .. FYI: Debian Squeeze with sun-java6-fonts uses -lucida-lucida*. -- Isaac Dunham -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do w

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] BSD > BSD|linux: Add /usr/local/bin to the default PATH on login

2012-09-17 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:14:03 + Marcin Cieslak wrote: > On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, Isaac Dunham wrote: > > > Though it might be better to exploit /etc/profile... > > Is dtlogin sourcing /etc/profile at all? > > //Marcin No, but I'm thinking that it might be go

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] BSD > BSD|linux: Add /usr/local/bin to the default PATH on login

2012-09-17 Thread Isaac Dunham
k wrote: > > Applied. > -- > Jon Trulson Ahem! The FHS requires /usr/local/bin on Linux also. Though it might be better to exploit /etc/profile... Thanks, Isaac Dunham diff --git a/cde/programs/dtlogin/config/Xconfig.src b/cde/programs/dtlogin/config/Xconfig.src index 16cbe4b..cd6f8b4

[cdesktopenv-devel] imake: config files not installed, updating source

2012-09-07 Thread Isaac
$TOPDIR/config/cf should be most of what's needed... Also, would there be any objections to replacing the current CDE imake.c with X.org's imake.c? As far as I can tell, there are no special features preventing this. Thanks, Is

[cdesktopenv-devel] "unable to compile dtterm.ti "

2012-08-15 Thread Isaac
the same as KEY_HELP "/usr/dt/config/dtterm.ti", line 1, terminal 'dtterm': exit_attribute_mode differs from sgr(0) exit_attribute_mode="\e[0m" sgr(0)="\e[0m\^O" "/usr/dt/config/dtterm.ti", line 1, &

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] dtbuilder broken

2012-08-12 Thread Isaac
will default to black.Warning: Cannot find > > callback list in XtAddCallback Warning: Cannot find callback list > > in XtAddCallback Warning: Cannot find callback list in XtAddCallback > > ... > > ... > > ... > > > > And it comes up in all black. Likewise...u