Re: Early Programming Books

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 5:43 PM, ben via cctech wrote: > > ... > 1965 to 1985 generated most of the new computing languages,operating > systems and ideas. Sadly most of it seems lost source code wise. > Ben. I might push the start of that back to 1955, but apart from that I agree you have a go

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On 2021-06-22 3:10 p.m., r.stricklin via cctech wrote: On Jun 22, 2021, at 12:40 PM, ben via cctech wrote: Lisp is evaluated, not compiled from what little I have read. If I could read the papers (for free) I could know more. So… have I got this right? 1. You admit directly you have onl

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> On Jun 22, 2021, at 12:40 PM, ben via cctech wrote: > Lisp is evaluated, not compiled from what little I have read. > If I could read the papers (for free) I could know more. So… have I got this right? 1. You admit directly you have only a little knowledge on the topic. 2. You choose to st

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lf Of Chuck Guzis via cctech Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 12:34 PM To: Paul Birkel via cctech Subject: Re: Early Programming Books Aside from the very general Algol report and the Iverson book on APL, I have to admit that most of my programming knowledge came out of manufacturer's manuals, specif

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? -Original Message- From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul Koning via cctech Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 5:06 PM To: Norman Jaffe; General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Early Programming Books > On Jun 20, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Norman Jaff

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Thank you Michael, for both the pointer and the scan :-}. From: Michael Mulhern [mailto:mich...@jongleur.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 11:22 PM To: Paul Birkel; General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Early Programming Books I recently scanned my copy of "Electronic Comp

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Sounds very promising, thank you for the tip. -Original Message- From: dave.g4...@gmail.com [mailto:dave.g4...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 4:01 PM To: 'Paul Birkel'; 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: Early Programming Books Paul, What ab

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, 2021 3:31 PM To: Paul Birkel; General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Early Programming Books Paul, I have been compiling a library of such. Ioks here, if you are traveling north swing by to review the books on hand. The one that comes to mind is Thinking Machunrs by Berkeley but here

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> On Jun 20, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Norman Jaffe via cctech > wrote: > > Basically, pre-1960, there couldn't be a 'general book on programming', since > every system was a unique environment - the only languages that could even be > remotely considered to be common were ALGOL 60 and FORTRAN II..

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something that was would cause massive problems on other systems...] > > From: "General Discussion, On-Topic Posts Only" > To: "General Discussion, On-Topic Posts Only" > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 9:34:18 AM > Subject: Re: Early Programming Books >

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A few years later, but Iverson's A Programming Language (1962) was written before APL was actually implemented and is all about a symbolic mathematical notation for expressing operations. From the preface via Wikipedia: "Applied mathematics is largely concerned with the design and analysis of expl

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On 2021-Jun-20, at 7:38 PM, ben via cctech wrote: > On 2021-06-20 8:13 p.m., Toby Thain via cctech wrote: > >> Tried the Shunting Yard algorithm? But watch out, it was invented by a >> quiche eater... > > The problem needs backtracking to generate correct code. Stack or > muilti-register machine

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On Sun, 2021-06-20 at 04:43 -0400, Paul Birkel via cctech wrote: > I know of two early computer (in the stored program sense) programming > books. Not about early EARLY programming, but I have some books (manuals) that are yours if you send me a PDF of a shipping label for a 10"x12" 1lb 2oz envelo

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I recently scanned my copy of "Electronic Computers: Principles and Applications" by TE. Ivall (1956) and there is a chapter on "Programming Digital Computers". It is more of a general overview, rather than any machine specifics. https://archive.org/details/electronic-computers/page/183/mode/2up

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On 2021-06-20 8:13 p.m., Toby Thain via cctech wrote: Tried the Shunting Yard algorithm? But watch out, it was invented by a quiche eater... The problem needs backtracking to generate correct code. Stack or muilti-register machines don't have this problem with temporaries. Ben.

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On 2021-06-20 10:06 p.m., ben via cctech wrote: > On 2021-06-20 6:57 a.m., Toby Thain via cctech wrote: >> On 2021-06-20 1:39 p.m., Paul Birkel via cctech wrote: >>> Dave; >>> >>> I'm much more curious about programming books that were *not* machine >>> specific. >>> That is, about "general princip

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On 2021-06-20 6:57 a.m., Toby Thain via cctech wrote: On 2021-06-20 1:39 p.m., Paul Birkel via cctech wrote: Dave; I'm much more curious about programming books that were *not* machine specific. That is, about "general principles" of designing/preparing software for execution. Not sure if it'

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1955: An Introduction to Automatic Computers (Ned Chapin ) I have the second edition — copyright 1963. Chapter 8 is “Elements of Programming” with a fully-worked out assembly language example for a hypothetical machi

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2021, Bill Degnan via cctech wrote: Paul, I have been compiling a library of such. Ioks here, if you are traveling north swing by to review the books on hand. The one that comes to mind is Thinking Machunrs by Berkeley but here on the patio at my parents house I dont know the date

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> -Original Message- > From: Paul Birkel > Sent: 20 June 2021 13:40 > To: dave.g4...@gmail.com; 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' > > Subject: RE: Early Programming Books > > Dave; > > I'm much more curious about programming books that we

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Paul, I have been compiling a library of such. Ioks here, if you are traveling north swing by to review the books on hand. The one that comes to mind is Thinking Machunrs by Berkeley but here on the patio at my parents house I dont know the date. Harvard press put out some early computing books b

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Very good question! Bill On Sun, Jun 20, 2021, 4:44 AM Paul Birkel via cctech wrote: > I know of two early computer (in the stored program sense) programming > books. > > > > 1951: Preparation of Programs for an Electronic Digital Computer > (Wilkes, Wheeler, & Gill) > > 1957: Digital Co

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Going back to the time around 1960, I'd like to venture the opinion that most data processing of the time was performed with unit-record equipment. That is, sorters, reproducing punches, interpreters, accounting machines, etc., none of which were programmed by "software", but by wiring plugboards o

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ot;General Discussion, On-Topic Posts Only" Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 9:34:18 AM Subject: Re: Early Programming Books Aside from the very general Algol report and the Iverson book on APL, I have to admit that most of my programming knowledge came out of manufacturer's manuals, sp

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Aside from the very general Algol report and the Iverson book on APL, I have to admit that most of my programming knowledge came out of manufacturer's manuals, specific to a maker's systems. The APL book was, at the time, pretty much useless for writing any sort of serious code until you got hold

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[mailto:dave.g4...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 10:51 AM To: 'Paul Birkel'; 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: Early Programming Books Paul, I assumed that was the case, but the inclusion of the Wilkes book confused me. I think there really is a spectrum

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Of Norman Jaffe via cctech Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 10:26 AM To: General Discussion, On-Topic Posts Only Subject: Re: Early Programming Books I have two books on ALGOL 60 from 1962 - A Guide to ALGOL Programming, Daniel D. McCracken A Primer Of ALGOL 60 Programming, E.W. Dijkstra For APL, the

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://www.essex.ac.uk/people/lavin12900/simon-lavington he has done a lot of research on early computing, and might know more.) > -Original Message- > From: Paul Birkel > Sent: 20 June 2021 13:40 > To: dave.g4...@gmail.com; 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' > > Subject:

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anual, J. McCarthy et al. From: "General Discussion, On-Topic Posts Only" To: "Paul Birkel" , "General Discussion, On-Topic Posts Only" , "dave g4ugm" Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 5:57:08 AM Subject: Re: Early Programming Books On 2021-06-20 1:3

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g4...@gmail.com [mailto:dave.g4...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 6:57 AM > To: 'Paul Birkel'; 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: Early Programming Books > > Paul, > What about machine specific manuals, so for example the Manchester MK

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x27;; 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: Early Programming Books Paul, What about machine specific manuals, so for example the Manchester MK1 programming manual, the second edition of which is archived here:- https://web.archive.org/web/20090526192456/http://www.compute

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Paul, What about machine specific manuals, so for example the Manchester MK1 programming manual, the second edition of which is archived here:- https://web.archive.org/web/20090526192456/http://www.computer50.org/kgill/m ark1/progman.html In fact I expect that first book refers specifically to ED