[ccp4bb] Comparing conformations using LSQKAB

2011-04-04 Thread Sandro Renato Dias
Dear all, I´m doing some comparissons of main chain conformations using LSQKAB and I would like to know from you how can I quantify a delta atom result. For instance, when I compare two identicals main chains I have the following result: 0.0011C A 1C A 0.0012N A

Re: [ccp4bb] Comparing conformations using LSQKAB

2011-04-04 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - I usually work in confunction with the graphics, so you can look at the regions which differ. I start with the rms difference. If that is > 2, I think there are significant changes. So then you have to decide what Q you are asking, and why. Is it that you want to use a model for Molecul

Re: [ccp4bb] metal binds?

2011-04-04 Thread vincent Chaptal
Hi, we recently published a method that could be just what you need, and easy to implement. It detects covalent modifications of cysteines, and mercury, gold and some platinums target cysteines... have a look at this paper. feel free to contact me if you want more information. vincent Fluor

[ccp4bb] CCP4MG Version 2.5.0

2011-04-04 Thread Stuart McNicholas
Dear All, Version 2.5.0 of the CCP4 Molecular Graphics Program (CCP4MG) has just been placed on the downloads page: http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/MG/download/ This version includes many bug fixes and improvements over 2.4.3, including: ### General bug fixes * Fix very serious Vista/Windows 7 crash

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 23:17 -0500, Jacob Keller wrote: > While the b cutoff is still be tricky, I assume we could eventually > come to consensus on some reasonable cutoff (2 sigma from the mean?) Not likely - the distribution of ADPs is not normal, so you can't easily convert Z-scores to probabil

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-04 Thread Quyen Hoang
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Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Dale, Set the occupancy of a marker atom to -99.99. > This will unambiguously mark the atom as an imaginary one. This > will, of course, break every program that reads PDB format files, may be not every -:) phenix.model_vs_data works just fine with http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/files/1BQU.pdb h

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Jacob Keller
> Not likely - the distribution of ADPs is not normal, so you can't easily > convert Z-scores to probabilities. Could it be that they are not normal because of all of the outlier, huge-b-factor sidechains? If every exposed sidechain without real density gets a b-factor of 150, wouldn't that make a

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear James, You make a very good point. So far we only discussed the option of removing alls side chain atoms except for CB. What if only a few side chain atoms are outside the density? Should we just remove those? If we use the argument that we should remove the atoms we cannot see, then sur

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Robbie Joosten
Nice one Pavel. PDB_REDO actually runs on these files but it's not pretty. I updated my stripper program to remove all atoms with occ<0.00 instead of 0.00 Cheers, Robbie Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 07:26:23 -0700 From: pafon...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chain

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Robbie, I updated my stripper program to remove all atoms with occ<0.00 instead of > 0.00 > - I used to do it in the past in phenix.model_vs_data but then I found it too boring since it was silently swallowing the problem cases -:) so I reverted it back to the "naive mode" when it takes what'

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 09:38 -0500, Jacob Keller wrote: > Could it be that they are not normal because of all of the outlier, > huge-b-factor sidechains? That is part of it > If every exposed sidechain without real > density gets a b-factor of 150, wouldn't that make a sizeable and > illegitimate

[ccp4bb] ICSG 2011 May 10-14, 2011, Toronto

2011-04-04 Thread Thomas C. Terwilliger
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Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Jacob Keller
I like your IMGATM proposal, but wouldn't it also potentially break some of the programs? Also--and this is a problem with deleting only sidechain atoms in general--it seems that many, myself included, might totally miss that an apparent "alanine" is really a trunco-lysine. What I like is that it d

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
It's nice to see that this discussion pops up every two years or so with exactly the same arguments :) My vote (as always) is for leaving the atoms of disordered side chains in with high B values, the B values are part of the models. Its up to the popular Biologist's visualization software

[ccp4bb] how to Collecting Data from Long Unit Cell Axes ?

2011-04-04 Thread dengzq1987
hello all, does anyone have the experience of Collecting Data from Long Unit Cell Axes ? I have a crystal that diffracts to about 4 A. in some direction the spots overlap. we can't use the data to index .we think it is because that there is a long unit cell axes. so is there any method to sol

Re: [ccp4bb] how to Collecting Data from Long Unit Cell Axes ?

2011-04-04 Thread Poul Nissen
Deng, You need a good synchrotron source with a low point spread detector, but not least a careful consideration in crystal mounting so that your crystal rotates apprx around the long axis during data collection to optimise the separation of reflections on the detector besides checking that

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Jacob, The PDB header has a record for missing atoms. Coot has an option to find them and any decent validation software will warn about incomplete residues. There are PDBREPORT entries for every PDB file with a list of incomplete residues. If a user makes a very small effort, he doesn't hav