Re: [ccp4bb] pointless problem

2011-11-18 Thread Phil Evans
Pointless will do the best it can with whatever data you give it, but if it is already merged then it can only check for under-merging, or for reindexing The normal use is for unmerged data as output by an integration program such as Mosflm or XDS, as a prelude for scaling with Aimless or Scala.

Re: [ccp4bb] pointless problem

2011-11-17 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Eleanor, Sorry, but I don't see how your comment answers any of my two questions. Tim On 11/17/2011 12:10 PM, Eleanor Dodson wrote: > Aaagh - you merge the POINT group! > Not the spacegroup... > > > Eleanor > > > On 11/17/2011 09:32 AM,

Re: [ccp4bb] 回复:Re: [ccp4bb] pointless problem

2011-11-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
me, >> I processed my data with HKL2000, How can I get the unmerged data or in >> which step to get the data I need? >> Thanks! >> >> ----- 原始邮件 - >> 发件人:Graeme Winter >> 收件人:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> 主题:Re: [ccp4bb] pointless problem >> 日期:2011年11月17日 15点34分 >> >> >> >> >>

Re: [ccp4bb] pointless problem

2011-11-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Aaagh - you merge the POINT group! Not the spacegroup... Eleanor On 11/17/2011 09:32 AM, Tim Gruene wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, dear Phil, how can a dataset be merged if the space group is unknown? Does pointless require the Friedel pairs present in th

Re: [ccp4bb] pointless problem

2011-11-17 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, dear Phil, how can a dataset be merged if the space group is unknown? Does pointless require the Friedel pairs present in the file, too? Tim On 11/17/2011 08:34 AM, Graeme Winter wrote: > Dear Ping, > > You need the unmerged data for this

Re: [ccp4bb] 回复:Re: [ccp4bb] pointless problem

2011-11-17 Thread Graeme Winter
I get the unmerged data or in > which step to get the data I need? > Thanks! > > - 原始邮件 - > 发件人:Graeme Winter > 收件人:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > 主题:Re: [ccp4bb] pointless problem > 日期:2011年11月17日 15点34分 > > > > >

Re: [ccp4bb] pointless problem

2011-11-16 Thread Graeme Winter
Dear Ping, You need the unmerged data for this - for instance the output from Mosflm or the XDS INTEGRATE step. Pointless works by comparing potentially symmetry related measurements. Best wishes, Graeme 2011/11/17 Ping Wang : > Dear all, > I have a dataset with spacegroup undetermined. When I