Re: [ccp4bb] Envelope Phasing.

2012-03-13 Thread Petr Leiman
Using an envelope or a mask to start phasing even with high NCS is still worse than using a low res model from cryoEM that is characterized by an (almost) proper density distribution. One has to measure the intensities of the very low res reflections (0 0 1 and the likes) precisely. The presen

[ccp4bb] RE : [ccp4bb] Envelope Phasing.

2012-03-12 Thread Alexandre OURJOUMTSEV
Dear David, I would remind that the "molecular-replacement positionning" of molecular envelopes and some methodological features (in comparison with a conventional MR) of this have been discussed in : Urzhumtsev & Podjarny (1995). "On the Solution of the Molecular Replacement Problem at Very

Re: [ccp4bb] Envelope Phasing.

2012-03-12 Thread David Briggs
Hi Francis, As you may have guessed - my question is stems from my recent acquisition of some native data for a protein that I have lots of SAXS data for. I suspect that more conventional MR is unlikely to work in this case as I only have a half-decent phasing model for ~30% of the protein (2 cop

Re: [ccp4bb] Envelope Phasing.

2012-03-12 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Point 3: Use the saxs model for preliminary phasing of your HA derivative Jürgen .. Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708 Baltimore, MD

Re: [ccp4bb] Envelope Phasing.

2012-03-12 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Hi David - I think you have four hurdles to overcome: 1. How good is a SAXS envelope 2. How will you place it in the right place 3. How will you extend from ~15-20 A to around 4 A 4. How will you extend from 4 A to beyond Steps 2 and 4 might be the easiest - albeit far from trivial. Point 1 can