Re: [ccp4bb] twinning in monoclinic space group

2008-10-23 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Those plots dont look too bad to me - not ideal but acceptable.. There are not many centric reflections so any stats are a bit suspect.. So I would go on working assuming no twinning - and try for a solution from MR or exptl phasing.. That is not so easy I know, but IF you can get an MR solution

Re: [ccp4bb] twinning in monoclinic space group

2008-10-23 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Do you have a pseudotranslation in the lower spacegroup? (If I could do symmetry in my head, I could probably work it out). If so, then it might be worth looking at the following excellent paper... http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2394827 Surprises and pitfalls arising

Re: [ccp4bb] twinning in monoclinic space group

2008-10-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I dont think that is a twinning law, and that SG and cell dimensions are unlikely to be twinned. It could be really P1 I suppose with a twin operator -h,k,-l - ie the SYM op is actually a twin operator.. But twinning usually shows up in the intensity statistic plots - have you looked at the TR

[ccp4bb] twinning in monoclinic space group

2008-10-22 Thread Michael Karl Uhl
Hello everyone, I have collected a dataset with a resolution of 1.5 A. The indexing with denzo went very well with the monoclinic cell (62.3120 84.2860 72.8720 90. 111.9620 90.). After many trials to determine the structure with MR as well as SAD I thought that my dataset might be