Re: [ccp4bb] torsion restraints and phi/psi

2007-11-07 Thread Edward A Berry
I wrote: Isn't it the case that vdw interactions are turned off between atoms in a residue, and perhaps with the residues before and after? No it is not the case, at least in refmac5 and SHELLXL. Thanks to those who clarified this. Jim Naismith's earlier post, which I had not seen, suggests a b

Re: [ccp4bb] torsion restraints and phi/psi

2007-11-07 Thread George M. Sheldrick
SHELXL does not provide torsion angle restraints. As far as I can tell, the normal procedure using REFMAC and PHENIX.REFINE is to refine with torsion angle restraints applied to side-chains but not to the psi and phi angles (all three programs have ways of keeping peptide units approximately pl

Re: [ccp4bb] torsion restraints and phi/psi

2007-11-07 Thread Garib Murshudov
I could not say about other program but in refmac there are intra residue vdw repulsions if atoms are at least two bonds are apart. If atoms are only two bonds apart then vdw distance is reduced and it can be controlled. I do agree that at lower resolution you should use as much info as you

Re: [ccp4bb] torsion restraints and phi/psi

2007-11-07 Thread Edward A Berry
Bernhard Rupp wrote: Dear All, I wonder about the exact use of torsion restrains and the effect on phi/psi/w validation. a) does refmac restrain phipsi at all (except vdw repulsion which does not bias them otherwise)? Isn't it the case that vdw interactions are turned off between ato

Re: [ccp4bb] torsion restraints and phi/psi

2007-11-07 Thread Jim Naismith
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard Rupp Sent: 07 November, 2007 16:40 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] torsion restraints and phi/psi Dear All, I wonder about the exact use of torsion restrains and the effect on phi/psi/w validation. I think in r

[ccp4bb] torsion restraints and phi/psi

2007-11-07 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Dear All, I wonder about the exact use of torsion restrains and the effect on phi/psi/w validation. I think in refmac, omega is restrained with a 1-4 dihedral or planarity, cis when the proper LINK statement is invoked - no questions there. In literature I find remarks like 'usually not restrain