Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-21 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Behalf Of Kay Diederichs Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:02 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:28:27 +, herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote: >Dear Tim, > >It could be that COLSPOT does not rely on experimen

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-21 Thread Kay Diederichs
N_RANGE . best, Kay > >Best regards, >Herman > > > >-Original Message- >From: Tim Gruene [mailto:t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de] >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:17 PM >To: Schreuder, Herman R&D/DE >Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit o

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-21 Thread Kay Diederichs
o:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Tim >Gruene >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:06 PM >To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >Dear Niu, > >indexing relies on strong reflect

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-21 Thread Herman . Schreuder
March 20, 2013 11:17 PM To: Schreuder, Herman R&D/DE Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Herman, the short answer might be that at the stage of COLSPOT the term 'resolution' has a limi

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-20 Thread Tim Gruene
solution cutoff for COLSPOT as > well. > > Best, Herman > > > -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board > [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Tim Gruene Sent: > Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:06 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: > Re: [ccp4bb] Reso

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-20 Thread Herman . Schreuder
, March 19, 2013 11:06 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Niu, indexing relies on strong reflections only, that is (in very brieft) why INCLUDE_RESOLUTION_RANGE indeed does not affect the relections

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-20 Thread vellieux
Hello, The way I do it is by manually editing the SPOT.XDS file (generated by the COLSPOT step). Spots are arranged by order of decreasing intensity in that file. So if you do down the file, select an appropriate intensity cutoff and then remove all spots below that value, it will have the ef

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-19 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Niu, indexing relies on strong reflections only, that is (in very brieft) why INCLUDE_RESOLUTION_RANGE indeed does not affect the relections collected in COLSPOT which in turn are used by IDXREF. You can work around this, however, by making use o

[ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-19 Thread Niu Tou
Dear All, Is there any command can set the resolution limit for index step in XDS? I only found a keyword INCLUDE_RESOLUTION_RANGE, but it looks to be a definition of resolution range after index step as it says: INCLUDE_RESOLUTION_RANGE=20.0 0.0 !Angstroem; used by DEFPIX,INTEGRATE,CORRECT Than

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-19 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Narayan, there's nothing wrong with using data with I/sigmaI 2.5, Rsym 224.3 % for multiplicity 7.8 and completeness 98.2 %. However, when you discarded frames you might have made the data worse - one should only reject data if they deviate systematically (e.g. from radiation damage). Weak

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread Jacob Keller
I was [too] obliquely alluding to this thread... http://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg27056.html JPK On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Edwin Pozharski wrote: > http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/ccp4bb/2001/msg00383.html > > > > > Rsym...what's that? > > > > JPK > > > > On Wed, Jul 18

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread Edwin Pozharski
http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/ccp4bb/2001/msg00383.html > Rsym...what's that? > > JPK > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Edwin Pozharski > wrote: > >> As has been shown recently (and discussed on this board), Rsym is not >> the >> best measure of data quality (if any measure at all): >> >> ht

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread Jacob Keller
Rsym...what's that? JPK On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Edwin Pozharski wrote: > As has been shown recently (and discussed on this board), Rsym is not the > best measure of data quality (if any measure at all): > > http://www.sciencemag.org/content/336/6084/1030.abstract > > > > > narayan viswa

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread Edwin Pozharski
As has been shown recently (and discussed on this board), Rsym is not the best measure of data quality (if any measure at all): http://www.sciencemag.org/content/336/6084/1030.abstract > narayan viswam wrote: >> Hello CCP4ers, >> In my data, the highest reolution shell 2.8-3.0 A has I/sigmaI

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
narayan viswam wrote: Hello CCP4ers, In my data, the highest reolution shell 2.8-3.0 A has I/sigmaI 2.5 & Rsym 224.3 % for multiplicity 7.8 and completeness 98.2 %. I solved the structure by MAD & refined it to Rfree 27.3 %. Ths crystal belongs to P622 space group and it is not twinned. The

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Narayan My only comment would be that P622 is a fairly uncommon space group (currently 43 PDB entries excl homologs), but obviously that doesn't mean it's wrong - just worth double-checking! Just out of interest what's the CC(1/2) statistic for your highest shell? Personally I specify more bi

[ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread narayan viswam
Hello CCP4ers, In my data, the highest reolution shell 2.8-3.0 A has I/sigmaI 2.5 & Rsym 224.3 % for multiplicity 7.8 and completeness 98.2 %. I solved the structure by MAD & refined it to Rfree 27.3 %. Ths crystal belongs to P622 space group and it is not twinned. The water content is 68%. I low

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit stuck in Refmac5

2010-11-01 Thread Roberto Steiner
Hi Jon On 30 Oct 2010, at 00:46, Tom Huxford wrote: Hi all, I'm working with good quality relatively complete x-ray diffraction data collected to a resolution limit 2.6 Å from a crystal of a protein with a small molecule ligand bound. I ran MR from 10-4 Å and then did maximum likelihood rigid

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit stuck in Refmac5

2010-11-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I guess you are using as input mtz the output mtz from the previous cycle? This will be limited to the requested previous resolution.. it is good practice to always use as input the full data - eg mystuff-scala.mtz output from the scala/ctruncate step.. If the input file has the full resolutio

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit stuck in Refmac5

2010-10-29 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Tom Huxford wrote: > I'm working with good quality relatively complete x-ray diffraction data > collected to a resolution limit 2.6 Å from a crystal of a protein with a > small molecule ligand bound. I ran MR from 10-4 Å and then did maximum > likelihood rigid bod

[ccp4bb] resolution limit stuck in Refmac5

2010-10-29 Thread Tom Huxford
Hi all, I'm working with good quality relatively complete x-ray diffraction data collected to a resolution limit 2.6 Å from a crystal of a protein with a small molecule ligand bound.  I ran MR from 10-4 Å and then did maximum likelihood rigid body refinement in Refmac5 against data from 50-3.

[ccp4bb] Resolution limit for Molecular Replacement

2008-09-16 Thread Rajan Pillai
Hi All, I read some literature for phasing by molecular replacement performed with reflections upto 3.5 Angstroms. Can anybody tell me why? I would prefer deleting low resolutions so as to reduce contribution from the solvent that might affect RF search and obtaining a solution. Your responses to