Re: [ccp4bb] relative intensity of ice rings

2012-06-27 Thread JORGE IULEK
Sure, but many times one's got to live with what one gets, ;-). By the way, I keep myself interested in bad, ice "ringed" or whatever, images, that cannot be processed easily and so I try the best I can, as far as I still cannot produce proteins/crystals in the lab here. Cheers, Jorge On Wednesda

Re: [ccp4bb] relative intensity of ice rings

2012-06-27 Thread Felix Frolow
It is better to spent time learning how to collect without ice… :-) FF Dr Felix Frolow Professor of Structural Biology and Biotechnology Department of Molecular Microbiology and Biotechnology Tel Aviv University 69978, Israel Acta Crystallographica F, co-editor e-mail: mbfro...@post.tau.ac.il

Re: [ccp4bb] relative intensity of ice rings

2012-06-27 Thread JORGE IULEK
I thank for the references and the comprehensive discussion from Dr. Holton. Also, for the reference indicated by Dr. Berry. I think I will get what I am looking for, now I need to "process" all this information. Partially answering Dr. Holton, my aim is to have a side guide for improving

Re: [ccp4bb] relative intensity of ice rings

2012-06-26 Thread James Holton
I think an appropriate reference is Bragg (1921) http://dx.doi.org/10.1088/1478-7814/34/1/322 who compared various possible crystal structures to the relative "strength" of the reflections from "ice powder" measured by Dennison (1921) http://dx.doi.org/10.1103/PhysRev.17.20. However, as Bragg note

Re: [ccp4bb] relative intensity of ice rings

2012-06-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
Maybe figure 4 in Viatcheslav Berejnov et al.  Vitrification of aqueous solutions J. Appl. Cryst. (2006). 39, 244–251 ? JORGE IULEK wrote: Hi, all, I thought I could easily find a reference to comment upon the relative intensity of rings in an image due to diffraction by polycrystal ice,

[ccp4bb] relative intensity of ice rings

2012-06-26 Thread JORGE IULEK
Hi, all, I thought I could easily find a reference to comment upon the relative intensity of rings in an image due to diffraction by polycrystal ice, but no luck googling for that. A reference that would contain a picture (with visual relative intensities) would be even better. Of course absol